Title: Fayoling tried to scam us Post by: Libertycoin on May 28, 2014, 11:21:12 PM Hello, a week ago we set up a bounty of 7 BTC and 30,000 XLB for a developer to make a Mixing service like the one that Fedoracoin uses so scramble transactions.
Fayoling said he could do it, and a few days ago he delivered us a php website http://209.188.7.190/libertycoin/ We kindly offered him 1.5 BTC for his work but he refused it, but he is still asking us to pay him the original bounty. Fedoracoin's system uses several servers(nodes) to scramble the transactions, and obviously is not developed in PHP. What Fayoling delivered is just a php website using Json-RPC API calls. He didn't even integrate it in the QT wallet or the Daemon. What he did is like if I bought a Ferrari but someone delivered me a Sedan. His profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=248359 Title: Re: Fayoling tried to scam us Post by: CryptoCayce on May 28, 2014, 11:57:01 PM I call bullshit. here is proof, http://pastebin.com/GfEYWH1z
essentially you guys promised him and tranzium the full bounty to do the anon feature it was going to take him longer than anticipated to integrate what he created into the wallet so you offered him half the bounty and wanted to have IconicExpert integrate it into his LibertyExpress software. all the info is in the pastebin all the devs and fayoled agreed it was fair. its all there plz read here is the full text actually: this was a conversation on IRC from ~40 hours ago 9:31:50 PM == fayoling [63e5000d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.229.0.13] has joined 9:31:50 PM == Topic for #libertycoin is: 8 BTC BOUNTY STILL OPEN FOR ANON IMPLEMENTATION | http://libertycoin.co | Libertycoin Multipool Live! http://xlb.multipoolmining.com/ | Tipbot Usage: !tip <nickname> <amount> 9:31:50 PM Topic set by gatti_!~agatti@72.29.249.249 at 5/26/2014, 15:5:34 9:31:50 PM == ChanServ set mode +v fayoling 9:32:00 PMfayoling I hear there is innovations and prgoress! :) 9:32:03 PMgatti- Man of the hour 9:32:08 PMshogun40 these is indeed 9:32:09 PMkeyboardcowboy- Booom! 9:32:22 PMshogun40 your ears must be burning 9:32:22 PMfayoling Trying to get Tranzium in here right now with his code 9:32:24 PM and mind 9:32:26 PM lol 9:32:29 PMJMoney11 Fayoling glad to see you here 9:32:44 PMIconicExpert it will look something like this...but Liberty Express looks 10x better: https://i.imgur.com/DeKXTLq.png 9:33:11 PMshogun40 so sorta like a consel 9:33:16 PMIconicExpert it will be separate from the wallet, but everything is integrated 9:33:18 PMshogun40 thats pretty cool 9:33:24 PMIconicExpert exactly 9:34:02 PM this is actually good...when XLB gets mass adoption no one can complain aboit it being anon because it will be a separate feature 9:34:09 PMshogun40 so if you send from it it takes from your addy and sends it on its own encrypted to the payee 9:34:09 PMIconicExpert about* 9:34:27 PM == Daredev [4438ef73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.56.239.115] has joined 9:34:27 PM == ChanServ set mode +v Daredev 9:35:14 PMfayoling XLB, troubleshooting and problem solving to the extreme. Love it 9:35:19 PMshogun40 it will give time for the wallet to gain the feature as well so there will be more than one way to go about. 9:35:20 PMIconicExpert I will have something similar to what the devs setup on the web but within the Liberty Express software. The end user will just past his address and get the new one 9:35:59 PMshogun40 how will it pull the coins from the wallet? 9:36:44 PMIconicExpert remember the end user is just making his address with the mixer 9:37:00 PM all this does is masking 9:37:26 PM did you use the web portal? 9:37:40 PMshogun40 another nice thing is this would be innovative. not some same thing xc did or what not 9:37:41 PM == Aquent_1 [~Aquent@gateway/tor-sasl/aquent] has joined 9:37:41 PM == ChanServ set mode +v Aquent_1 9:38:13 PMshogun40 i did 9:38:35 PMfayoling Tranzium will be here shortly, he just ran to the store. 9:38:38 PMshogun40 i put an addy in and it gave out a new one. so this will just give you a new one to send with? 9:38:51 PM sweet 9:38:53 PMIconicExpert I can do the same exact thing but within Liberty Express...so all you will have to do is just past the "real" address into the software, and it will give you the new address 9:39:05 PMshogun40 cool 9:39:06 PMJMoney11 Good to hear about tranzium... having the devs and IE in here to discuss everything would be good 9:39:12 PM == izangi [67e03435@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.103.224.52.53] has joined 9:39:12 PM == ChanServ set mode +v izangi 9:39:13 PMfayoling ^agreed 9:39:19 PMshogun40 meeting of the minds 9:39:22 PM :) 9:39:59 PM if this goes well it would be a turbobost for an announcement tomorrow 9:40:05 PMJMoney11 Exactly 9:40:15 PMshogun40 rock solid 9:40:28 PMizangi what did i miss 9:40:35 PMshogun40 some good stuff 9:40:38 PM == Aquent_ has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 9:40:40 PMshogun40 :) 9:40:52 PMizangi any pastebin? please 9:40:57 PM == BNK3RED has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 9:41:13 PM == tonyxlb [c634694a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.198.52.105.74] has joined 9:41:13 PM == ChanServ set mode +v tonyxlb 9:41:22 PM == BNK3RED [a5e4ddcb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.165.228.221.203] has joined 9:41:22 PM == ChanServ set mode +v BNK3RED 9:41:31 PMIconicExpert hi izangi 9:41:49 PMizangi hey, never seen ie in here wow 9:42:15 PMIconicExpert I am here to fix this shit :) 9:42:38 PMgatti- Yeh yeh!! 9:42:44 PMizangi thank fuck, hate waking up to it knowing what they were saying 9:42:44 PMJMoney11 We have IE and soon two of the anon devs... progress in the making 9:42:47 PMgatti- Getting shit done 9:43:15 PMIconicExpert from now on please just contact me with your issues 9:43:41 PMgatti- Thanks dude 9:43:51 PMshogun40 this will be tits n ass 9:43:52 PMizangi still a bit lost, need pastebin or summary 9:43:52 PMgatti- Big sigh of relief 9:44:11 PMkeyboardcowboy- :D gatti is bagholder 9:44:19 PMIconicExpert I am about to tweet I am going to take over the anon dev and get it done asap 9:44:28 PMkeyboardcowboy- do it. 9:44:30 PMizangi ok big sigh 9:44:30 PMgatti- Hahaha 9:44:36 PM Pastebin: buu 9:44:38 PM Buy 9:44:41 PM I have 40k 9:44:41 PMIconicExpert that will stop some of the bleeding 9:44:46 PMgatti- Not a bag holder ;) 9:44:48 PMshogun40 quick summery is adding the anno feature into IE libertysend consel 9:44:50 PMgatti- Also not selling 9:44:50 PMkeyboardcowboy- Patch it up 9:45:02 PMIconicExpert Liberty Express 9:45:18 PM brb 9:45:19 PMkeyboardcowboy- Like a train? CHOOCHOO 9:45:20 PMshogun40 then we can send transactions annomusly and not need the wallet to do it 9:45:20 PMkeyboardcowboy- :D 9:45:22 PMgatti- Featuring Liberty Send 9:45:32 PMizangi ok, havent read anything juicy about that either, will it be a cex card 9:45:40 PMshogun40 sorry express 9:46:33 PMgatti- Maarten is gonna go nuts with this 9:46:41 PMshogun40 no its a program that you will put you addy in and it encrypts and creates a new one you send the payment with. you will still be able to send with your normal one as well 9:46:43 PMkeyboardcowboy- we have more volume than BC atm 9:46:44 PM :D 9:47:15 PMgatti- Confidence is returning, that's why 9:47:30 PMshogun40 that liberty express has a bunch of other cool features all on its own 9:47:50 PMizangi but its all one program? 9:47:57 PMshogun40 so this will marry up both without need for new wallets or hardforks 9:48:06 PMJMoney11 Confidence is definitely returning here... once everyone else knows were on track it will help even more 9:48:16 PMizangi that is fucking perfect 9:48:35 PM == Gibcity_ [ad1e4100@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.173.30.65.0] has joined 9:48:35 PM == ChanServ set mode +o Gibcity_ 9:49:18 PMgatti- :D 9:49:42 PMJMoney11 Good to see progress being made 9:50:07 PM == Schiavon [bd5a62e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.90.98.224] has joined 9:50:07 PM == ChanServ set mode +v Schiavon 9:50:12 PMSchiavon Hello 9:50:24 PMBNK3RED Just wanna say nice work guys sometimes you just need a leader to make the perfect team work 9:51:40 PM == awake [a29ca0a7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.156.160.167] has joined 9:51:40 PM == ChanServ set mode +v awake 9:51:52 PMkeyboardcowboy- lol 9:51:58 PM did anyone see XC 9:52:01 PM Hashrate 9:52:09 PM http://liteshack.com/ 9:52:11 PMawake Hello 9:52:19 PM == jimcoin [b3bab070@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.179.186.176.112] has joined 9:52:19 PM == ChanServ set mode +v jimcoin 9:52:22 PMshogun40 hi 9:52:27 PMkeyboardcowboy- 64% 9:52:35 PM == tranzium [461e31fc@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.70.30.49.252] has joined 9:52:35 PM == ChanServ set mode +v tranzium 9:52:36 PMshogun40 yeah its a beast off the leash 9:52:37 PM == Schiavon [bd5a62e0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.90.98.224] has quit (Client Quit) 9:52:43 PMfayoling Tranzium in the house 9:52:44 PMshogun40 damn near 800k 9:52:54 PMkeyboardcowboy- http://liteshack.com/?coin=xc 9:52:58 PMshogun40 i totally missed the boat on xc 9:53:01 PM == Dirceu [b3c02cba@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.179.192.44.186] has joined 9:53:01 PM == ChanServ set mode +v Dirceu 9:53:07 PMshogun40 though it would flop and ignored 9:53:11 PMkeyboardcowboy- XC being raped 9:53:13 PM http://liteshack.com/?coin=xc 9:53:13 PMDirceu hi mans 9:53:15 PMkeyboardcowboy- trololo 9:53:16 PMtranzium Hello everyone. Hope I wasn't missed too much... 9:53:20 PM == GutoSchiavon [bd5a62e0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.90.98.224] has joined 9:53:20 PM == ChanServ set mode +v GutoSchiavon 9:53:24 PMizangi you were 9:53:26 PMJMoney11 Tranzium good to see you here 9:53:35 PM == maycoin [b3de2d90@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.179.222.45.144] has joined 9:53:35 PM == ChanServ set mode +v maycoin 9:53:38 PMGibcity_ tranz 9:53:38 PM == crypto [b117e501@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.177.23.229.1] has joined 9:53:38 PM == ChanServ set mode +v crypto 9:53:41 PMfayoling Tranzium, they have someone that wants to take over anon and give you a portion of the bounty 9:53:42 PMGibcity_ the man 9:53:45 PMfayoling if that's cool 9:53:54 PMGutoSchiavon |tip SchiavonXV 5000 9:53:55 PMcrypto Reginaldo cade vc 9:54:00 PMGutoSchiavon !tip SchiavonXV 5000 9:54:01 PMtipxlb GutoSchiavon: You need to be identified with NickServ to tip. 9:54:02 PM == crypto is now known as Guest24267 9:54:02 PMshogun40 trsanz 9:54:04 PMGutoSchiavon Hello bitches 9:54:13 PM !help 9:54:26 PMGuest24267 regis 9:54:32 PM bi 9:54:47 PMIconicExpert hi tranzium 9:55:02 PM first I want to say thank you for all your work so far 9:55:04 PMfayoling Tranz, IE is the man to talk to 9:55:11 PMGutoSchiavon Brasil em peso aqui. 9:55:23 PMGuest24267 BRBR 9:55:24 PMfayoling Can we call for channel silence to let the devs talk? 9:55:31 PMtranzium No problem. Love to help out where I can. lol 9:55:34 PMGutoSchiavon BRBRBRBRBR <3 9:56:14 PMJMoney11 Agreed, lets let the devs discuss this 9:56:24 PMGibcity_ grabs popcorn 9:56:33 PMtranzium So what's the scoop? 9:56:42 PMIconicExpert tranzium what is the web code written in? 9:56:46 PM php? 9:57:32 PMtranzium Yes. 9:57:57 PM == degenorate has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 9:58:04 PMIconicExpert Anything special needs to be installed on the server? 9:58:29 PM == keyboardcowboy- has quit 10:00:17 PMjimcoin lol 10:00:27 PMtranzium PCNTL functions (should be installed by default) and BC Math (which might not be). Aside from that, the jsonRPC class will communicate with the wallet through RPC 10:00:46 PMawake IconicExpert 10:00:54 PM Do you have good news for us? 10:01:02 PMDirceu Brazil believes the project 10:01:02 PMgatti- Awake hold 10:01:21 PMtranzium No database or anything else. Just 2 files are maintained to store the last block hash and transaction timestamp. (in case you want to stop/start the daemon ever, lol) 10:01:36 PMIconicExpert ok 10:01:46 PM == brammien has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:01:47 PM == brammien_ [63bd843a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.189.132.58] has joined 10:01:47 PM == ChanServ set mode +v brammien_ 10:01:53 PMIconicExpert sounds straightforward 10:02:04 PMjimcoin gogo brazil XLB! 10:02:13 PMIconicExpert when can I get the code? 10:02:34 PMawake XLT to the moon! 10:02:50 PMmaycoin xlt? lol 10:03:12 PMGuest24267 kkkk BR fazendo brasileirisses 10:03:19 PMbrammien_ xtra large and tall 10:04:02 PMgatti- IE can you communicate the terms of the bounty? 10:04:07 PM On behalf of anyone? 10:04:09 PMtranzium Since the anon is being taken (from the sounds of things), what kind of bounty portion are we talking about? 10:05:02 PMIconicExpert he should get half 10:05:04 PM == aliasaila has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:05:10 PMIconicExpert they did half the work 10:05:19 PMfayoling half of 7 BTC and 250k XLB? 10:05:30 PMIconicExpert yes 10:05:30 PM == wedlock has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 10:05:35 PMtranzium fuck brb 10:05:39 PMfayoling I think that sounds reasonable 10:05:48 PM == tonyxlb [c634694a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.198.52.105.74] has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 10:05:50 PMIconicExpert before you do..I need to make sure it works on the server 10:05:53 PM == wedlock [~wedlock@gateway/tor-sasl/wedlock] has joined 10:05:53 PM == ChanServ set mode +v wedlock 10:06:10 PMfayoling I am sure Tranzium will help get it working at 50% of the bounty 10:06:22 PMIconicExpert I think 50% is fair 10:06:27 PMfayoling ^ 10:06:37 PMgatti- I do too 10:06:50 PM Git'er done 10:06:57 PMIconicExpert it will 10:07:07 PM == brammien [63bd843a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.189.132.58] has joined 10:07:07 PM == ChanServ set mode +v brammien 10:07:07 PMIconicExpert My rep is on the line here 10:07:29 PMfayoling Lol IE 10:07:39 PM You typically pull through, no worries here 10:07:41 PMgatti- *slow clap* 10:07:56 PMawake What is going to be announced after the countdown goes off? 10:08:19 PMgatti- Apparently more than anticipated 10:08:23 PM :D 10:08:36 PM == degenorate [~degenorat@unaffiliated/degenorate] has joined 10:08:37 PM == ChanServ set mode +v degenorate 10:08:37 PM == web_user|16198 [2e47baab@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.71.186.171] has joined 10:08:37 PM == ChanServ set mode +v web_user|16198 10:09:18 PMawake gatti 10:09:51 PMgatti- Yes 10:09:54 PMawake What was promissed? 10:10:01 PM Anonymous function? 10:10:16 PM == brammien_ [63bd843a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.189.132.58] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:10:22 PMgatti- IE will be implementing the anon code to his Liberty Express software 10:10:36 PM This is groundbreaking and revolutionary 10:10:40 PM Amazing stuff 10:10:47 PMawake I see... 10:10:57 PM What exactly is Liberty Express? 10:10:59 PMGibcity_ http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3Us9Pp_na3Q/T750HAScVkI/AAAAAAAABO4/t8-egObGIQY/s1600/guy-opening-door.gif 10:11:05 PM my reaction to what is going on lol 10:11:16 PMgatti- Haha 10:11:16 PMawake HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA 10:11:19 PM I hope so 10:11:50 PM How much time left on the countdown? 10:11:58 PM == aliasaila [~aliasaila@142.55.181.185] has joined 10:11:58 PM == ChanServ set mode +v aliasaila 10:12:04 PMgatti- Its not a set time 10:12:09 PMIconicExpert its not 10:12:14 PM i dunno who did that 10:12:18 PMgatti- I'm pretty sure it's a local clock 10:12:21 PM On the site 10:12:22 PMGutoSchiavon What exactly is Liberty Express? 10:12:27 PMtranzium Alright. 50% works for me. Send it, ensure it works, send payment? 10:12:30 PMizangi but it will be today? 10:12:31 PMBNK3RED i think tranzium has run off to buy XLB 10:12:47 PMfayoling lol 10:12:48 PM ^ 10:12:52 PMIconicExpert Tomorrow you are just suppose to buy XLB and give to friends and family 10:13:06 PM this is a good time to buy 10:13:16 PMgatti- Read: great 10:13:47 PMGibcity_ my dad and crypto currency? 10:13:52 PM he can't even check his email lol 10:13:55 PMIconicExpert lol 10:14:01 PMGibcity_ fuck it. here's 10k xlb dad 10:14:06 PMIconicExpert Liberty Express will fix that! 10:14:23 PM Liberty Express is idiot proof 10:14:38 PMGibcity_ I'm talking to a local bar about accepting bitcoin tomorrow. I will mention libertycoin 10:14:52 PM tell em if you wana be really cool...you should just accept libertycoin 10:15:24 PMIconicExpert tranzium yes 10:15:44 PM I will let everyone know it works...and they will handle the bounty 10:15:59 PMfayoling Can I suggest a portion upfront 10:16:10 PM he is handing over his code 10:16:27 PMIconicExpert that is up to the people offering the bounty 10:16:57 PMgatti- Can you ping them IE? 10:17:05 PM == kkkk [b105d351@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.177.5.211.81] has joined 10:17:05 PM == ChanServ set mode +v kkkk 10:17:17 PMkkkk hi guys 10:17:24 PMgatti- Templar is in for 2-3 10:17:28 PM == degenorate [~degenorat@unaffiliated/degenorate] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:17:29 PM == kkkk is now known as Guest35729 10:17:55 PM == degenorate [~degenorat@unaffiliated/degenorate] has joined 10:17:56 PM == ChanServ set mode +v degenorate 10:18:08 PMgatti- I see none of then joined here after my call out 10:18:10 PMIconicExpert you guys handle that...I already have my plate full 10:18:28 PM tranzium I need your email 10:18:45 PMfayoling ^ 10:18:46 PM == brammien [63bd843a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.189.132.58] has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:18:55 PM == snakegi [b1dcb22c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.177.220.178.44] has joined 10:18:55 PM == ChanServ set mode +v snakegi 10:18:58 PM == brammien [63bd843a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.189.132.58] has joined 10:18:58 PM == ChanServ set mode +v brammien 10:19:07 PMfayoling Get the bounty sorted out, and than Tranzium and IE can begin 10:19:22 PM == coinabinoids [~ident@ool-457dab34.dyn.optonline.net] has joined 10:19:22 PM == ChanServ set mode +v coinabinoids 10:19:30 PMgatti- Templar77 get your Dev team on the line 10:19:31 PMIconicExpert yea 10:19:38 PMgatti- We need to get this deal done 10:19:42 PMfayoling ^ 10:20:35 PMIconicExpert all I need is tranzium email so we can be in contact... the bounty will get sorted tomorrow 10:20:41 PM == snakegi [b1dcb22c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.177.220.178.44] has quit (Client Quit) 10:21:27 PM == BNK3RED [a5e4ddcb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.165.228.221.203] has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 10:23:10 PMgatti- I pingd libdev on the forum 10:24:03 PMIconicExpert this wil lget done guys Title: Re: Fayoling tried to scam us Post by: CryptoCayce on May 28, 2014, 11:59:41 PM essentially you guys scammed urself trusting IE and are now in turn scamming fayoled and tranzium as you are scrambling to put the pieces together because of the disorganized chaos within XLB and no one who offered the bounty wanting to put their $ where there mouth is.
real classy you guys. I just sold the 70,000 XLB I had at a big loss:( , sad because I thought you guys might make it through this but under pressure you've caved and your true colors are shining through. Title: Re: Fayoling tried to scam us Post by: fayoling on May 29, 2014, 12:00:49 AM First, I am not the dev, was solely defending him.
The deal was to create the mixer and the Libertycoin community would get it integrated. Here is one conversation about them having someone to take over for the anon dev at 50/50 of the bounty. http://pastebin.com/S1Cycszz (http://pastebin.com/S1Cycszz) Yesterday there was a conversation about another Dev taking over and doing 70/30. Today when the bounty was brought up, the community could not raise more than 1 BTC. So they began to copy the devs code. http://prntscr.com/3njcr2 (http://prntscr.com/3njcr2) http://prntscr.com/3nj9bn (http://prntscr.com/3nj9bn) The deal was not for complete wallet integration from day 1. The dev had mentionned he would be able to help with that, but could not do it. Hence the reason they were looking for help and splits on the bounty. When the coin dumped hard yesterday, most people involved with the bounty rescinded and left. So instead of giving the bounty to the rightful owner, they began calling it a scam and copying it. If it was a scam, than why reverse engineer it, and clone it? Title: Re: Fayoling tried to scam us Post by: Gibcity on May 29, 2014, 01:09:51 AM fayoling can you come to irc and chat with me? I want this whole misunderstanding settled once and for all. You and tranz are awesome and we don't want to lose you. Please come and chat.
Title: Re: Fayoling tried to scam us Post by: Boomslang on May 29, 2014, 02:17:43 AM This is the pot calling the kettle black.
I think it's a bit out of order to create a scamming thread about a contributor to Libertycoin development when the entire development team and their supporters are now under suspicion of scamming everyone who believed in Libertycoin and invested in it. This has come to light over the last 36 hours after the split between IE and the devs. It is all contained in the Libertycoin main thread. Before the split, the community was pretty much unaware that there were problems. Everyone was behind Libertycoin and supporting it. After the split, it all became public with viscious posts in the main Libertycoin thread and unacceptable, disgraceful posts from some members. The entire Libertycoin community has imploded and become highly distrustful of the devs and the methods they used to defend their actions. A further split has occurred between the creators and new promoters of Libertycoin and the well intentioned investors. Investors ordered a Ferrari and got delivered a tricycle with a wheel missing. |