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Title: Dear moderators
Post by: PhoneBloks on May 29, 2014, 08:36:44 PM
I would kindly ask you to remove my negative trust

Why ?

Short explanation:

There was alt-coin exchange: www.cryptorush.in, where aprox 1000 btc were lost. I started investigation and I find that user "thisweekscoin" or "keyzersozemc" (same person) was very close person to owners.

He later confirms that. Thanks to him and some additional investigation I found 1 owner. Details here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624588.new#new

user "thisweekscoin" gave me negative trust for my post

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431099.msg6651813#msg6651813


User "thisweekscoin" confirmed he knows owner (devianttwo), he also confirmed that he helped them (www.cryptorush.in) with promoting. All I wrote was that "thisweekscoin is close person to owners or possible owner"

What is true and maybe we figure out he was really co-owner ... will see what my investigation brings.

I would like to help community, because lot of people were scameed and over 1000 btc were lost. I am full member, and I will be senior member soon. I received negative trust for no reason, and with negative trust I can trash my account.

Communication with "thisweekscoin" is impossible, thats why I ask moderators to remvoe my negative trust. Thank you for your reply moderators


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: u9y42 on May 29, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
I would kindly ask you to remove my negative trust [...]

Perhaps you should move this to the Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0)) section of the forum? This doesn't really belong on the Off-topic section, and if you check Meta, you will see a few similar threads there.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: DiamondCardz on May 29, 2014, 09:27:35 PM
Trust is not (note; NEVER, you WILL not be able to change this like the MANY people before you) removed on request. Moderators can't remove trust anyway as far as I'm aware, you'd need to ask an admin. People like me have received much worse in spam trust, quit complaining and just deal with it. If people could easily delete trust then the system would be pointless.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: PhoneBloks on May 29, 2014, 10:11:03 PM
Trust is not (note; NEVER, you WILL not be able to change this like the MANY people before you) removed on request. Moderators can't remove trust anyway as far as I'm aware, you'd need to ask an admin. People like me have received much worse in spam trust, quit complaining and just deal with it. If people could easily delete trust then the system would be pointless.

Ok but what should I do ? If I receive positive trust will my "overall" trust go back to green numbers ? Because now I look like biggiest scammer here .. prime dice wont pay me for last month as I have negative trust.

Noone will buy my stuff, noone will read my advices ...

shit


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: KWH on May 29, 2014, 10:18:52 PM
Resolve it with those that left it, only way you'll get it removed.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: PhoneBloks on May 29, 2014, 10:27:06 PM
Resolve it with those that left it, only way you'll get it removed.

Thank you for advice, but its almost 0 chance resolve it with him ...:/


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: DiamondCardz on May 29, 2014, 10:31:00 PM
Message escrow.ms, escrow.ms is on DefaultTrust and due to trusting the person who has given you negative feedback, it shows up with that warning on your profile.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: hilariousandco on May 29, 2014, 10:32:09 PM
If that doesn't work you could try asking whoever put him on the trusted lost to consider removing him (I think it was escrow.ms last I checked).

Edit: DiamondCardz beat me to it.

Stunna might still pay you or allow you to continue posting if you explain the situation.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: SaltySpitoon on May 29, 2014, 10:33:07 PM
Resolving it or ignoring it are your two options, the trust system isn't moderated as Diamondcardz said. Moderators can't do anything to trust, only admins, and admins won't make any changes to it, as that could lead to abuse quickly.

I think the only time feedback has ever been removed, was when someone was creating bots that would leave everyone negative feedback. They were banned, and that feedback was removed.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: androz on May 29, 2014, 10:45:50 PM
People like me have received much worse in spam trust, quit complaining and just deal with it.

Resolving it or ignoring it are your two options, the trust system isn't moderated as Diamondcardz said. Moderators can't do anything to trust, only admins, and admins won't make any changes to it, as that could lead to abuse quickly.

I think the only time feedback has ever been removed, was when someone was creating bots that would leave everyone negative feedback. They were banned, and that feedback was removed.


So if if you get fraudolent bad feedback there is no way to get rid of it.
This is not good, however i guess that if you could prove your "innocence" in some way, there will be a little possibility to get rid of bad feed.
(very very little)



Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: u9y42 on May 29, 2014, 11:10:28 PM
People like me have received much worse in spam trust, quit complaining and just deal with it.

Resolving it or ignoring it are your two options, the trust system isn't moderated as Diamondcardz said. Moderators can't do anything to trust, only admins, and admins won't make any changes to it, as that could lead to abuse quickly.

I think the only time feedback has ever been removed, was when someone was creating bots that would leave everyone negative feedback. They were banned, and that feedback was removed.

So if if you get fraudolent bad feedback there is no way to get rid of it.
This is not good, however i guess that if you could prove your "innocence" in some way, there will be a little possibility to get rid of bad feed.
(very very little)

Well, as others have said before, the person who left the feedback in this case was added to the trust list of someone on the default trust list, hence the problem; that is, everyone else sees you with the red trust message. But this also means that if it was fraudulent feedback and you can prove it, you have a good chance of convincing that person to remove the other from his trust list, as was suggested, which should solve the problem.

And if I understand how this works correctly, other ways to solve this could be either someone else on the default trust list (perhaps on a higher trust level of the list) giving negative feedback to the person that gave you the feedback, or giving you positive feedback directly.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: @ThisWeeksCoin on May 30, 2014, 07:45:46 AM
Give him some more period.

http://prntscr.com/3nxy7h


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: altcoinex on May 30, 2014, 12:31:03 PM
Dear Mods, THIS PERSON SHOULD BE Banned. They are posting people unrelated to a scam's personal details, claiming they might know something, causing them danger and harassment.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: jeffersonairplane on May 30, 2014, 12:52:38 PM
Dear Mods, THIS PERSON SHOULD BE Banned. They are posting people unrelated to a scam's personal details, claiming they might know something, causing them danger and harassment.

People aren't going to get banned for abusing the trust system...


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: androz on May 30, 2014, 06:39:54 PM

Give him some more period.

http://prntscr.com/3nxy7h


Dear Mods, THIS PERSON SHOULD BE Banned. They are posting people unrelated to a scam's personal details, claiming they might know something, causing them danger and harassment.

mmm, better let the mod evaluate all this mess.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: alani123 on May 30, 2014, 09:43:51 PM
There's too much blackmailing in this forum. Shouldn't something be done about it?


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: PhoneBloks on May 31, 2014, 01:08:22 AM
Dear Mods, THIS PERSON SHOULD BE Banned. They are posting people unrelated to a scam's personal details, claiming they might know something, causing them danger and harassment.

You are stupid :D

I revealed owner of cryptorush.in where 400-800 000 usd were stolen .. and I should be banned for revealing his identity ? :D Oh my ... but its your opinion, as we live in free world, everyone have right to have own opinion (unfortunately)

BTW:
my negative trust is gone, Im not sure if mods removed it or thisweekscoin did....


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2014, 01:09:51 AM
It wouldn't have been the mods. Like I have told you, trust is very rarely removed unless some bot has started to spam negative trust all over everyone.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: PhoneBloks on May 31, 2014, 01:24:05 AM
It wouldn't have been the mods. Like I have told you, trust is very rarely removed unless some bot has started to spam negative trust all over everyone.

Maybe the user removed it . we will see ;)


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: Mobius7 on May 31, 2014, 01:40:54 AM
BTW:
my negative trust is gone, Im not sure if mods removed it or thisweekscoin did....

That 2 negative feedback are still there, but it is now in the "Untrusted feedback" section. :)


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: u9y42 on May 31, 2014, 01:49:10 AM
BTW:
my negative trust is gone, Im not sure if mods removed it or thisweekscoin did....

That 2 negative feedback are still there, but it is now in the "Untrusted feedback" section. :)

Yes, ThisWeeksCoin didn't remove the feedback; escrow.ms removed him from his trust list, so he is no longer part of the default trust list.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: devthedev on May 31, 2014, 03:13:26 AM
Pretty interesting, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=632906.0


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: Mobius7 on May 31, 2014, 05:32:16 AM
BTW:
my negative trust is gone, Im not sure if mods removed it or thisweekscoin did....

That 2 negative feedback are still there, but it is now in the "Untrusted feedback" section. :)

Yes, ThisWeeksCoin didn't remove the feedback; escrow.ms removed him from his trust list, so he is no longer part of the default trust list.

I have no idea what happened, but it seems escrow.ms haven't touched his feedback on @ThisWeeksCoin...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=204416


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2014, 12:00:56 PM
Yeah, and escrow.ms doesn't need to. He removed the person from DefaultTrust so the issue is basically solved now.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: escrow.ms on May 31, 2014, 12:05:54 PM
OP I have Temporarily removed @thisweekscoin from my trust list to stop this drama. You should understand that he does paid advertising and it's not his fault if website got hacked or owner decided to do scam.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: devthedev on May 31, 2014, 12:30:47 PM
OP I have Temporarily removed @thisweekscoin from my trust list to stop this drama. You should understand that he does paid advertising and it's not his fault if website got hacked or owner decided to do scam.


I don't see why you'd need to do that to be honest, seems like extortion on Bloks' part to me.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: escrow.ms on May 31, 2014, 02:01:14 PM
OP I have Temporarily removed @thisweekscoin from my trust list to stop this drama. You should understand that he does paid advertising and it's not his fault if website got hacked or owner decided to do scam.


I don't see why you'd need to do that to be honest, seems like extortion on Bloks' part to me.

All feedback's they have given to each other are not related to any trade or scam directly, It's probably a misunderstanding so red feedback wasn't necessary.

Ps: @Thisweekscoin is still in default trust list but under one of my friend's trust list.
All users who are using Trust depth 3 will be able to see warning on his profile (-3: -1 / +1(1) Warning: Trade with extreme caution!)

If OP keeps harassing and trolling I can leave a negative trust directly.


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: @ThisWeeksCoin on May 31, 2014, 10:49:28 PM
OP I have Temporarily removed @thisweekscoin from my trust list to stop this drama. You should understand that he does paid advertising and it's not his fault if website got hacked or owner decided to do scam.


I don't see why you'd need to do that to be honest, seems like extortion on Bloks' part to me.

All feedback's they have given to each other are not related to any trade or scam directly, It's probably a misunderstanding so red feedback wasn't necessary.

Ps: @Thisweekscoin is still in default trust list but under one of my friend's trust list.
All users who are using Trust depth 3 will be able to see warning on his profile (-3: -1 / +1(1) Warning: Trade with extreme caution!)

If OP keeps harassing and trolling I can leave a negative trust directly.
Don't give him negative trust, you might end as the new cryptorush owner, lol.

OP I have Temporarily removed @thisweekscoin from my trust list to stop this drama. You should understand that he does paid advertising and it's not his fault if website got hacked or owner decided to do scam.


I don't see why you'd need to do that to be honest, seems like extortion on Bloks' part to me.
Let him make a fool of himself. I'm really enjoying all the drama. My views are increasing on my websites. :)



Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: silvestar on June 01, 2014, 09:46:03 PM
OP I have Temporarily removed @thisweekscoin from my trust list to stop this drama. You should understand that he does paid advertising and it's not his fault if website got hacked or owner decided to do scam.


I don't see why you'd need to do that to be honest, seems like extortion on Bloks' part to me.

All feedback's they have given to each other are not related to any trade or scam directly, It's probably a misunderstanding so red feedback wasn't necessary.

Ps: @Thisweekscoin is still in default trust list but under one of my friend's trust list.
All users who are using Trust depth 3 will be able to see warning on his profile (-3: -1 / +1(1) Warning: Trade with extreme caution!)

If OP keeps harassing and trolling I can leave a negative trust directly.
Don't give him negative trust, you might end as the new cryptorush owner, lol.

Tomatocage did give him a negative trust, and he officially joins the cryptorush team. :P

I really geting to be bored by this forum :)

I received negative trust from tomatocage recently with text - Avoid doing business with this user as he may attempt to blackmail you.

Tomatocage did I do any bussines with you ? No !
We even was not in PM contact or any other contact.

Who I try blackmail ? :D By revealing identity of owner of scam where plenty of money were stolen ? That is blackmailing ? :D

Or you just was paid by cryptorush.in to damage my reputation as I am getting closer to truth ?

Or you are just another primitive who think he is some kind of "judge" ?


I am really getting fed up of this forum, users. Prickhead steal 1000 btc ... everything is ok ! He even doesnt have negative trust !!!!!!!!!! I try to help community what I get ? :D Negative trust for "blackmailing" ?

Tomato you son of stinikiest bitch do you know what is blackmailing ? :D Omfg ....

Tomatocage gave me negative trust for nothing, I did not do any bussiness with him previously, we were not in contact even, possible paid person by cryptorush.in who stole 400 - 800 000 usd so they have plenty of money to buy users. Tomatocage looks like another member of old cryptorush.in team !!!


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: @ThisWeeksCoin on June 01, 2014, 11:13:17 PM
OP I have Temporarily removed @thisweekscoin from my trust list to stop this drama. You should understand that he does paid advertising and it's not his fault if website got hacked or owner decided to do scam.


I don't see why you'd need to do that to be honest, seems like extortion on Bloks' part to me.

All feedback's they have given to each other are not related to any trade or scam directly, It's probably a misunderstanding so red feedback wasn't necessary.

Ps: @Thisweekscoin is still in default trust list but under one of my friend's trust list.
All users who are using Trust depth 3 will be able to see warning on his profile (-3: -1 / +1(1) Warning: Trade with extreme caution!)

If OP keeps harassing and trolling I can leave a negative trust directly.
Don't give him negative trust, you might end as the new cryptorush owner, lol.

Tomatocage did give him a negative trust, and he officially joins the cryptorush team. :P

I really geting to be bored by this forum :)

I received negative trust from tomatocage recently with text - Avoid doing business with this user as he may attempt to blackmail you.

Tomatocage did I do any bussines with you ? No !
We even was not in PM contact or any other contact.

Who I try blackmail ? :D By revealing identity of owner of scam where plenty of money were stolen ? That is blackmailing ? :D

Or you just was paid by cryptorush.in to damage my reputation as I am getting closer to truth ?

Or you are just another primitive who think he is some kind of "judge" ?


I am really getting fed up of this forum, users. Prickhead steal 1000 btc ... everything is ok ! He even doesnt have negative trust !!!!!!!!!! I try to help community what I get ? :D Negative trust for "blackmailing" ?

Tomato you son of stinikiest bitch do you know what is blackmailing ? :D Omfg ....

Tomatocage gave me negative trust for nothing, I did not do any bussiness with him previously, we were not in contact even, possible paid person by cryptorush.in who stole 400 - 800 000 usd so they have plenty of money to buy users. Tomatocage looks like another member of old cryptorush.in team !!!
Seems like you want to join cryptorush team as well, lmao


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: silvestar on June 01, 2014, 11:29:51 PM
Seems like you want to join cryptorush team as well, lmao

It will be an honor to be in the same team with Tomatocage and escrow.ms, but nope I prefer not to be forced to join a team. ;)


Title: Re: Dear moderators
Post by: alani123 on June 02, 2014, 01:10:51 AM
Tomatocage did the right thing leaving him a negative feedback rating. That's what you get for sending people threats.  :P