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Title: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Wilikon on June 05, 2014, 03:19:26 PM



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The work order asks for a long list of specific tools, including the ability to identify influential figures on social media, analyze data streams in real time, access old Twitter data and use heat maps. (It also wants the software to be compatible with the five-year-old Internet Explorer 8 browser — a sign of the government’s outdated technology.)


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/the-secret-service-wants-software-that-detects-sarcasm-yeah-good-luck/2014/06/03/35bb8bd0-eb41-11e3-9f5c-9075d5508f0a_story.html



Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: railzand on June 05, 2014, 07:19:31 PM
fascinating


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 05, 2014, 10:03:50 PM
How about they just focus on the jobs they have instead of finding new ways to over analyze every god damned thing we do or say?


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: beetcoin on June 05, 2014, 10:28:53 PM
man, i instantly thought of "the onion" once reading the topic of this thread. i was pleasantly surprised when this topic turned out to be legit.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: taipo on June 05, 2014, 10:34:52 PM
All social media sites need to do is add this function:
[hypotheticallyspeaking]Lets just say I have a device that ticks....[/hypotheticallyspeaking]

Then have the code add some Dr Evil speechmark fingers around your statement,

http://oi57.tinypic.com/15s3n5u.jpg

 ::)
Sorted, SS send your BTC to my wallet: 1MGaKZ9ndQPqux65h2rncSXRomvwreXTbn for saving you millions.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: PolarPoint on June 05, 2014, 11:03:35 PM
Real people can't catch sarcasm at times, let alone a computer software. Sarcasm is a mix of exaggeration, humour, insult. It cannot be detected only from context, may also need a understanding of concepts, views, relationships, current news...

You'll need a "learning computer" and train it for years to be able to detect sarcasm.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: bitsmichel on June 05, 2014, 11:13:26 PM
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Real people can't catch sarcasm at times, let alone a computer software.

My thoughts exactly. A probabilistic system could easily be way off.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Benjig on June 05, 2014, 11:30:32 PM
The Secret Service in its zeal to protect the President is showing itself little different from, say, the Gestapo was in its zeal to protect the Fuehrer. Moreover, this is an excellent example of the difficulty in distinguishing mendacity from stupidity in the actions and pronouncements of bureaucrats.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Lethn on June 06, 2014, 08:10:45 AM
LOL! :D


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: 5flags on June 06, 2014, 08:52:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN4QS8nL6bY&feature=kp

:)


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Mikez on June 06, 2014, 12:10:23 PM
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Secret Service wants software that detects sarcasm on social media.(Yeah, good luck.)

Washington Post, I see what you did over there :). Nice pun!

Well, this reminded me of a scene from the movie Elysium, set in a dystopian future, that fits this perfectly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzGzf0S0WqI


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Mudd on June 06, 2014, 01:37:13 PM
Maybe they want it so they can stop arresting people for saying sarcastic or non-literal stuff on twitter etc.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: bitsmichel on June 06, 2014, 04:10:57 PM
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Maybe they want it so they can stop arresting people for saying sarcastic or non-literal stuff on twitter etc.

This technology would not only be used for sarcasm, but for whatever you want to search for. 


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: JohnnyLightning on June 06, 2014, 04:11:39 PM
I feel so safe I can't freaking stand it.   >:(


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: beetcoin on June 06, 2014, 05:50:05 PM
i can help the secret service and other underground institutions: i love them, and i think their existence is completely necessary. they do great work.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Nemo1024 on June 06, 2014, 05:53:29 PM
beetcoin has been flagged as a sarcasm-user by the forum's automated screening system


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: plateex on June 06, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
yeah, because -as we all know - sarcasm is the biggest threat to the national security


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on June 06, 2014, 10:27:24 PM
Now that is one of the hardest coding jobs I could think of
Akin to having a smart AI that can detect lexicon patterns and then filter them into common remarks and sayings then take the variants of those sayings to create an algorithm that detects the probability of any set of parameters being met to detect sarcasm
Within the context of a long conversation increasing the error rate.

I guess it could be done but efficiently from A to B might take merging a few technologies
We do have Intel's Watson system so Sarcasm is just a step away.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: bitsmichel on June 06, 2014, 11:00:00 PM
Now that is one of the hardest coding jobs I could think of
Akin to having a smart AI that can detect lexicon patterns and then filter them into common remarks and sayings then take the variants of those sayings to create an algorithm that detects the probability of any set of parameters being met to detect sarcasm
Within the context of a long conversation increasing the error rate.

I guess it could be done but efficiently from A to B might take merging a few technologies
We do have Intel's Watson system so Sarcasm is just a step away.


Indeed, this is an expensive project in terms of development time (and cost). The algorithm would be experimental, so its going to have quite a few errors.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Wilikon on June 06, 2014, 11:38:26 PM
All social media sites need to do is add this function:
[hypotheticallyspeaking]Lets just say I have a device that ticks....[/hypotheticallyspeaking]

Then have the code add some Dr Evil speechmark fingers around your statement,

http://oi57.tinypic.com/15s3n5u.jpg

 ::)
Sorted, SS send your BTC to my wallet: 1MGaKZ9ndQPqux65h2rncSXRomvwreXTbn for saving you millions.

"for saving you millions"

Don't you mean... Saving you Billions?  ;)


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: PolarPoint on June 07, 2014, 12:47:08 AM
May be the secret service monitor keywords on the internet, and they get so many flags per day on the keyword "kill". Manual inspection shows most of them are sarcastic comments, so they want a software to detect sarcasm to filter out the noise. Then more time and resources can be used on real potential threats.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: vokain on June 07, 2014, 01:59:49 AM
that the SS wants it might imply that it's possible? scary thought since I have no idea how far linguistics AI research has progressed in the past while


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: taipo on June 08, 2014, 05:57:45 AM
Don't you mean... Saving you Billions?  ;)

Technically speaking, a million BTC is $650,000,000 USD, but yeah,

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...for saving you a birrion dorrors...


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: blablahblah on June 08, 2014, 06:37:09 AM
So, it appears that it's not enough to just search through everyone's private facebook, skype, and other social media conversations for terrorism catch words like let's blow them sky high, or it's time to drown the eagle, or so r we gonna kill Obama or not? Make up ur minds lol. It turns out that Team America still have to actually read the conversations, which, understandably, poses difficulties for them.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Nathonas on June 08, 2014, 07:20:20 AM
beetcoin has been flagged as a sarcasm-user by the forum's automated screening system

User Beetcoin has received a warning, and his post has been uploaded for safekeeping into the NSA database. Further sarcasm will result in a complete ban on internet communication.

But seriously, this story is hilarious. There is no limit to how far governments will go to maintain power and control even in the age of limitless internet communications.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Wilikon on June 08, 2014, 07:24:04 PM

In other news... Kinda related...
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http://www.burnleyexpress.net/news/national/super-computer-passes-turing-test-1-6661108





Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: taipo on June 09, 2014, 07:04:09 AM
[ShakesFistInSarcasm]RUSSIANS!!![/ShakesFistInSarcasm]


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 09, 2014, 07:06:15 AM
[ShakesFistInSarcasm]RUSSIANS!!![/ShakesFistInSarcasm]

Good luck flying any where for the next 20 years now.  :D


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Lethn on June 09, 2014, 07:06:38 AM
that the SS wants it might imply that it's possible? scary thought since I have no idea how far linguistics AI research has progressed in the past while

..... SS? Holy shit now there's an acronym I didn't realise, the Secret Service having the same acronym as the Nazi SS LOL! :P


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: FFrost on June 14, 2014, 07:41:41 PM
I be very interested on how they come up with an algorithm to detect sarcasm but does sound like a waste of money.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: Malin Keshar on June 15, 2014, 12:24:24 AM
Make an perfect software for this is as hard as make a software that mimic perfectly the human intelligence(mimic this is way harder than mimic a 13 you for 5 min during a conversation).

But I have some ideas that might help to make a good enough software for this:

-If one uses quotation marks or write ~this way~ , or put lols and other funny stuffs in their speaking(quite obvious)
-If one says with high conviction something contrary to their previous declarations, specially if these previous declarations are near the ironic phrase.
-If one say exaggerated, absurd and hyperbolic things.
-Incisive affirmative statements, with any signals of doubt and politeness related to contrary opinions, or with no rhetoric tricks,  are alone a hint of irony, but with high chance to false positives.For example:

i can help the secret service and other underground institutions: i love them, and i think their existence is completely necessary. they do great work.


yeah, because -as we all know - sarcasm is the biggest threat to the national security


Compare that with the non ironical comments on this or any other thread



All social media sites need to do is add this function:
[hypotheticallyspeaking]Lets just say I have a device that ticks....[/hypotheticallyspeaking]

Sorted, SS send your BTC to my wallet: 1MGaKZ9ndQPqux65h2rncSXRomvwreXTbn for saving you millions.


http://www.ns88.com/ns88/images/waffen-ss-flag.jpg


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 03:02:53 AM
beetcoin has been flagged as a sarcasm-user by the forum's automated screening system

User Beetcoin has received a warning, and his post has been uploaded for safekeeping into the NSA database. Further sarcasm will result in a complete ban on internet communication.

But seriously, this story is hilarious. There is no limit to how far governments will go to maintain power and control even in the age of limitless internet communications.

I don't think the secret service wants to "ban" sarcasm but rather use it to help detect if something is a serious threat or not.

If someone were to make a threat of some kind that is not serious then the Secret Service could use limited resources to investigate and prevent a threat that did not really ever exist while one that was serious could not be looked into due to their limited resources.


Title: Re: Secret Service Wants Software That Detects Sarcasm On Social Media
Post by: DrG on June 15, 2014, 08:48:41 AM
Man and I this time I thought they were wasting taxpayer dollars.  This is such a good use of our taxes.





















Here's the forum's sarcasm detector ...  ::)