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Title: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Jonathan Ryan Owens on February 18, 2012, 02:22:18 PM
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around Ripple. i signed up at Villages (link below) and now I need to build a community - i.e. issue credit and make payments (?). I need to see this in practice and understand how Villages and Ripple works in a practical application.

Once you've signed up and joined my community on Villages, I'll send you 0.2 Bitcoin. Reply letting me know you've joined and provide your receiving address.

It might be a good use of this thread to document our experience with Ripple and Villages, and experiment with some issuing of credit and performing payments.

See you there.

https://villages.cc/?u=jonathanryanowens (https://villages.cc/?u=jonathanryanowens)


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: John (John K.) on February 18, 2012, 02:43:39 PM
Joined using your link under the same name as my forum name. I'm still having troubles figuring out what to do lol ;D

address: 18c8oXmyvfAFjeR575y5XACJhtrVf9yfjR


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Jonathan Ryan Owens on February 18, 2012, 02:55:38 PM
Joined using your link under the same name as my forum name. I'm still having troubles figuring out what to do lol ;D

address: 18c8oXmyvfAFjeR575y5XACJhtrVf9yfjR

0.2 sent.

I just 'endorsed' you with 1 heart.

thisseemsgay.jpg

screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/2ABBU.png

i also 'acknowledged' you with 9000 hours for time served.

imsoconfuse.png

screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/cNhXa.png

summary of our new relationship, mr. dong.

screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/5eUjP.png

now i have posted something or the other.

screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/nULmR.png

acknowledged more hours.

screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/sYXOK.png

community member #2 Edd joined. Gave him 1337 hours and a heart (where's the smiley faces?)

screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/HaexS.png


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: John (John K.) on February 18, 2012, 03:13:15 PM
LOL I sent half of the time back including a heart. This seems so confusing  :-\. How do I 'generate' time and hearts apart from receiving it?

edit: btc's received, thanks!


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: edd on February 18, 2012, 03:29:04 PM
Interesting and confusing concept.

Endorsed and testified as "edd."


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: John (John K.) on February 18, 2012, 03:35:01 PM
Interesting and confusing concept.

Endorsed and testified as "edd."
Sent some love across your way too  ;D I feel like Santa now!


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Jonathan Ryan Owens on February 18, 2012, 03:36:39 PM
Let's all endorse this guy and acknowledge him with a few thousand hours. Maybe we'll get free Mayan horoscope readings out of it.

https://i.imgur.com/3e01N.png

My endorsement.

screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/EuNaE.png


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: John (John K.) on February 18, 2012, 03:43:25 PM
Let's all endorse this guy and acknowledge him with a few thousand hours. Maybe we'll get free Mayan horoscope readings out of it.

https://i.imgur.com/3e01N.png
That sounds like real fun  ;D Sent some hearts and a couple thousand of hours for good measure.
Seems he's in bitcoins too. Maybe he's someone on the forums too?

P.S.:Are we ruining the whole trust-network thingy with our enormous hours?


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: bulanula on February 18, 2012, 03:49:27 PM
OK. I registered as "bulanula"

Address is 1QEhKt1ZH7eZEe3Dr6jAKnNEAuKKbqSwZt

Thank you !


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: edd on February 18, 2012, 03:54:16 PM
P.S.:Are we ruining the whole trust-network thingy with our enormous hours?

Just beware the day when Daniel Levy knocks on your door and asks you to follow through on your promise of 2 thousand hours and puts you to work developing software for him at 40 hours a week for a year!


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: John (John K.) on February 18, 2012, 03:59:33 PM
P.S.:Are we ruining the whole trust-network thingy with our enormous hours?

Just beware the day when Daniel Levy knocks on your door and asks you to follow through on your promise of 2 thousand hours and puts you to work developing software for him at 40 hours a week for a year!
I'm fairly far away enough from him for him to do that  :P I think we're the first batch of people to liven up the network - talk about being an early adopter now.


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Matoking on February 18, 2012, 04:19:55 PM
Just joined and trying to wrap my head around this thing. :P

18ue66VfywdfnTfQAWtGfhojbrn3pN4A2J


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Jonathan Ryan Owens on February 18, 2012, 04:49:30 PM
I'm still lost. Everyone who's in the community should now acknowledge and um.. give hours to others, hearts to others (???) and um.. post things.

Everyone who provided an address has just received 0.2 as promised

i'm so confused.

Acknowledged and endorsed Janne:

Screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/45WBL.png


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: John (John K.) on February 18, 2012, 05:00:32 PM
Starting to get the hang of it now. Basically send hearts with some motivational words  ;D


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: runlinux on February 18, 2012, 05:15:27 PM
ok, joined. will read a bit more into what i just did....

1QHkYCPdT3FjFZMvbxTyPCPFaXa4RhJcLo


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: edd on February 18, 2012, 05:16:09 PM
From what I gather, it's an attempt at a classifieds/job board that deals with IOUs instead of money.

We've sorta skipped the "offering goods and services" part and gone straight to issuing IOUs.  :P


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Jonathan Ryan Owens on February 18, 2012, 05:18:46 PM
From what I gather, it's an attempt at a classifieds/job board that deals with IOUs instead of money.

We've sorta skipped the "offering goods and services" part and gone straight to issuing IOUs.  :P

In fact, I think we're already the wealthiest community on there.

Everyone start posting for things that you want or things that you have available for sale for hours (???)

I posted an offer of 1 hour for 1 Bitcoin

Screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/OmNxF.png


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: John (John K.) on February 18, 2012, 05:34:52 PM
From what I gather, it's an attempt at a classifieds/job board that deals with IOUs instead of money.

We've sorta skipped the "offering goods and services" part and gone straight to issuing IOUs.  :P

In fact, I think we're already the wealthiest community on there.

Everyone start posting for things that you want or things that you have available for sale for hours (???)

I posted an offer of 1 hour for 1 Bitcoin

Screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/OmNxF.png

Posted an offer to help me figure out.  ;D


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Jonathan Ryan Owens on February 18, 2012, 05:48:40 PM
From what I gather, it's an attempt at a classifieds/job board that deals with IOUs instead of money.

We've sorta skipped the "offering goods and services" part and gone straight to issuing IOUs.  :P

In fact, I think we're already the wealthiest community on there.

Everyone start posting for things that you want or things that you have available for sale for hours (???)

I posted an offer of 1 hour for 1 Bitcoin

Screenshot:

https://i.imgur.com/OmNxF.png

Posted an offer to help me figure out.  ;D

"Shut up and take my bottlecaps"

Best one yet xD

https://i.imgur.com/G2ljv.png


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: edd on February 18, 2012, 05:58:25 PM
Now I'm really confused. I was jsut checking out my AcCount Settings and see that I have the option to give myself unlimited "Hearts" to distribute to whomever I like.

But here's the really confusing part:
Quote
"You choose a number of hearts to endorse them with. Each heart allows them and people they trust to send you one hour's worth of acknowledgement (more on this below)."

Quote
"Villages acknowledgements are a currency denominated in hours, consisting of gentle promises made to the person who helped you out to return the favour at some point in the future. When you have received acknowledgements, you can spend them to acknowledge others without having to issue any promises of your own."
So,

Acknowledgements = Hours of work promised

Hearts are like vouching for someone's integrity and each voucher is worth one hour's worth of Acknowledgement.

No wait, Hearts just allow someone to send you an hour in return.  ???


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Raoul Duke on February 18, 2012, 06:09:14 PM
OK, I joined. What now?

Same username. Address in my sig ;)


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: drakahn on February 18, 2012, 06:20:27 PM
Signed up as drakahn

16ttFWHHvuXdVJtQy3xCpFc7GTw4LjWEEj


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: kjlimo on February 18, 2012, 06:22:45 PM
OK, I joined. What now?

Same username. Address in my sig ;)

Ditto.


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Jonathan Ryan Owens on February 18, 2012, 06:29:41 PM
OK, I joined. What now?

Same username. Address in my sig ;)

Ditto.
Signed up as drakahn

16ttFWHHvuXdVJtQy3xCpFc7GTw4LjWEEj
OK, I joined. What now?

Same username. Address in my sig ;)

Paid.


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Raoul Duke on February 18, 2012, 06:38:27 PM
Thank you. Now I'll continue my investigation into ripple and the way the site works.

Complicated. And people say Bitcoin isn't simple...


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Jonathan Ryan Owens on February 18, 2012, 06:51:06 PM
New Bounty:

The first person to get 4 more people to join my network (link #1 ITT) will get 0.4 Bitcoin. List them ITT or via PM.


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: kjlimo on February 18, 2012, 11:10:22 PM
New Bounty:

The first person to get 4 more people to join my network (link #1 ITT) will get 0.4 Bitcoin. List them ITT or via PM.

So does that mean, we just need to get others to register through your original link?


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: Nixzor on February 22, 2012, 12:51:39 AM
Joined.
username: Nixzor
btc adress is in signature


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: herzmeister on February 23, 2012, 10:52:00 PM
been there already for a while

same user name, address in my sig  8)


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: markm on February 26, 2012, 09:52:49 PM
Hmm, I don't think this thing is really actual Ripple-per-se, it seems to be a somewhat hacked up / dumbed down version of it.

For example I don't see any accounts nor ways to create accounts, nor ways to designate types of things you are crediting people with, such as BiTCoins for example

I had thought Ripple was a system whereby you could for example send me 0.2 BTC and/or trust me for up to 0.2 BTC, so that we could set up a network of credit/debit denominated in BTC. Then presumably also set up some other thing, like maybe some kind of fiat, similarly, in order to be able to do exchanges.

They might have hacked Ripple code to make this thing but I don't think it is relaly representative of Ripple.

Here is all I could find out about my "account": http://villages.cc/?u=knotwork

As it does not seem to have any way we can tell it about btcoins I guess you'd need my bitcoin address if you wanted to send me any, and would have to send them outside their system rather than simple as credit inside their system. I guess this address should be find for such uses: 1EHdHpY5K1RYjnABC4RMK3NNDDm92E8ayG

-MarkM-


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: jtimon on February 26, 2012, 11:16:58 PM
Villages.cc has been developed by Ryan Fugger, like ripple. Is a simplified version where hours are the only units, without interest rates and without exchange rates (that enable charging proportional fees). You can learn more about ripple here:

http://ripple-project.org/

Simplifying a lot...
Endorsements (hearts) are the account limits. When you give me 2 hearts you're saying "I accept jtimon to owe me up to 2 hours".
Acknowledgements are the payments.
Posts are just for advertising things you can offer for hours or things you want.
Reading this should be helpful:

https://villages.cc/about/how/

About the big direct acknowledgements you're making...
Direct acknowledgements are not the norm. For example, say I have an offer "$10 in bitcoins for each hour". When you contact me to make the deal I won't accept direct acknowledgements as payment. If you pay me through a trusted acknowledgement someone I actually trust promises 1 hour to me instead of you who I don't trust. If there's no trust from me to you (through other users, transitively (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transitive_relation)) you can't pay me.

So you need hearts from other to be able to pay someone. You need to give hearts to others so that someone can pay you.

I'll be happy to answer any question you have.
You can also join the ripple forum (http://groups.google.com/group/rippleusers/) and ask there whatever you don't understand about villages or ripple.


Title: Re: I'm researching Ripple. Join Villages.cc, and I'll pay you 0.2 Bitcoin [more]
Post by: lakeluke on March 10, 2012, 12:52:13 PM
Guys I think you should look at https://ripplepay.com/

I've also just started investigating this, and found the above. This allows you to create a profile and link to other people you know and trust, and transfer money, by hand to them.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f9KqSgRZYgg


I think this system if implemented with some of our exchange threads, like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=27055.0 or https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62879 can revolutionize the way we transfer funds between each other.