Bitcoin Forum

Other => Off-topic => Topic started by: QuestionAuthority on June 08, 2014, 11:06:27 PM



Title: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 08, 2014, 11:06:27 PM
http://www.secvshavers.com/blog.html

Would YOU donate money to help the Bastard of Bitcoin?

Here's the hook they are using to scare you into donating:

Quote
​The case the SEC is bringing forward – if won- would establish a very dangerous precedent that says anyone exchanging bitcoin could be SELLING SECURITIES, thus subject to SEC regulation, SEC scrutiny, SEC investigation, and SEC legal action. This would include peer-to-peer bitcoin exchanging, all trades at Shotoshi Square in NYC, miners selling bitcoin, basically anyone that touches bitcoin and later trades or sells it would be under the scrutiny of the SEC. If you’re not registered with the SEC – or if you have engaged in these types of activities in the past without being registered - you could be fined tens of thousands of dollars per transaction, or worse, jail.

Do you believe the hook?



Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: CEG5952 on June 08, 2014, 11:11:49 PM
"anyone exchanging bitcoin could be SELLING SECURITIES" -- Isn't the only reason the SEC is involved that it was a ponzi scheme? He was selling shares/securities, not bitcoin.


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 08, 2014, 11:23:40 PM
"anyone exchanging bitcoin could be SELLING SECURITIES" -- Isn't the only reason the SEC is involved that it was a ponzi scheme? He was selling shares/securities, not bitcoin.

That's true, it was a Ponzi scheme but his attorney may present the idea that Bitcoin itself acts as a security.


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: CEG5952 on June 08, 2014, 11:49:01 PM
"anyone exchanging bitcoin could be SELLING SECURITIES" -- Isn't the only reason the SEC is involved that it was a ponzi scheme? He was selling shares/securities, not bitcoin.

That's true, it was a Ponzi scheme but his attorney may present the idea that Bitcoin itself acts as a security.

I am pretty sure the definition of "security" means that it is backed by some kind of asset (by contract). Bitcoin isn't backed by anything, certainly not legally. That's a pretty far stretch to make, IMO.


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: Justine on June 09, 2014, 01:51:05 AM
Government around the world is out of control.

Who give them the right to interfere with 2 voluntary parties conducting transaction?


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: beetcoin on June 09, 2014, 02:01:06 AM
"anyone exchanging bitcoin could be SELLING SECURITIES" -- Isn't the only reason the SEC is involved that it was a ponzi scheme? He was selling shares/securities, not bitcoin.

That's true, it was a Ponzi scheme but his attorney may present the idea that Bitcoin itself acts as a security.

so you're saying this guy was running a ponzi scheme and you want us to donate to defend him?


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 09, 2014, 05:35:25 AM
"anyone exchanging bitcoin could be SELLING SECURITIES" -- Isn't the only reason the SEC is involved that it was a ponzi scheme? He was selling shares/securities, not bitcoin.

That's true, it was a Ponzi scheme but his attorney may present the idea that Bitcoin itself acts as a security.

so you're saying this guy was running a ponzi scheme and you want us to donate to defend him?

When did I say that? I want to know if you'd fall for it and donate because his attorney is trying to scare you.


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: leezay on June 09, 2014, 06:27:01 AM
The early investor from his scheme do make a lot of money.


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 09, 2014, 07:23:32 AM
Wow. This guy really has no shame. I would consider a donation to the prosecution but they collect that before I even see my pay check each week. 


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: DrG on June 09, 2014, 08:38:40 AM
If not Karma then the SEC.... or maybe Death himself... yes that will do.

Dead or alive you're coming with me.

I can't imagine anybody wanting to donate to his defense fund. 


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: Este Nuno on June 10, 2014, 07:37:34 AM
I'm pretty sure this is a scam and not set up by Trendon's lawyer.

Not that I would ever donate to such a silly cause of course.

But people should be cautious.


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 10, 2014, 07:58:28 AM
I'm pretty sure this is a scam and not set up by Trendon's lawyer.

Not that I would ever donate to such a silly cause of course.

But people should be cautious.

Nope, it's real. I called the firm and verified it.


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: dank on June 10, 2014, 09:23:23 PM
"anyone exchanging bitcoin could be SELLING SECURITIES" -- Isn't the only reason the SEC is involved that it was a ponzi scheme? He was selling shares/securities, not bitcoin.

That's true, it was a Ponzi scheme but his attorney may present the idea that Bitcoin itself acts as a security.

so you're saying this guy was running a ponzi scheme and you want us to donate to defend him?

But the government can run the biggest ponzi scheme there is?


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: abacus on June 10, 2014, 10:09:44 PM
Do you believe the hook?

His attempt is simply pathetic.

I hope that everybody know that... scammers gonna scam.


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: Maidak on June 10, 2014, 10:50:45 PM
I can't believe there is a donation page for him why not use all the BTC he stole ?


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: Bitsaurus on June 10, 2014, 11:02:14 PM
Stupid is as stupid does


Title: Re: Looking for donations to help poor Pirate@40 defend himself against the SEC.
Post by: Este Nuno on June 13, 2014, 11:17:18 AM
I can't believe there is a donation page for him why not use all the BTC he stole ?

Because he failed to actually end up with very much at all, funnily enough. Out of 200k btc that he should have had he only ended up with 150k USD. ~$0.75 a coin.