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Title: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 10, 2014, 08:34:06 AM
I have tried a lot of time with free faucet but it never work out always

its on x2 lose multiple 100% .


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Parham6 on June 10, 2014, 08:37:07 AM
its on x2 lose multiple 100% .

Martilfail will always fail and you'll go bust unless you statistically have infinite money which is impossible.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 10, 2014, 08:38:04 AM
its on x2 lose multiple 100% .

Martilfail will always fail and you'll go bust unless you statistically have infinite money which is impossible.

Is it possible to martingale on doge coin with betting 0.1 doge and have 1M Doge ?


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: koshgel on June 10, 2014, 08:52:28 AM
its on x2 lose multiple 100% .

Martilfail will always fail and you'll go bust unless you statistically have infinite money which is impossible.

Is it possible to martingale on doge coin with betting 0.1 doge and have 1M Doge ?

You can...but you would make no profits


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 10, 2014, 09:01:47 AM
its on x2 lose multiple 100% .

Martilfail will always fail and you'll go bust unless you statistically have infinite money which is impossible.

Is it possible to martingale on doge coin with betting 0.1 doge and have 1M Doge ?

You can...but you would make no profits

Why not ? if you running it for the whole day example 1 sec for 1 doge and 1 min for 60 doge

And you wont get burst ...


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: chaosPT on June 10, 2014, 09:03:14 AM
I have used x3 and +100% on lose

Have made 0.5 BTC to 12 and 20 before but you need a lot of luck on that tho

Even with x4 and x5 .


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 10, 2014, 09:06:19 AM
I have used x3 and +100% on lose

Have made 0.5 BTC to 12 and 20 before but you need a lot of luck on that tho

Even with x4 and x5 .

Wow thats about 1000-2000% of profit you maked , hows that work at the end for you ?


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: chaosPT on June 10, 2014, 09:13:27 AM
I have used x3 and +100% on lose

Have made 0.5 BTC to 12 and 20 before but you need a lot of luck on that tho

Even with x4 and x5 .

Wow thats about 1000-2000% of profit you maked , hows that work at the end for you ?

I got greedy and lose them all the end

I was betting bigger and bigger without any strategy .


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 10, 2014, 09:16:26 AM
I have used x3 and +100% on lose

Have made 0.5 BTC to 12 and 20 before but you need a lot of luck on that tho

Even with x4 and x5 .

Wow thats about 1000-2000% of profit you maked , hows that work at the end for you ?

I got greedy and lose them all the end

I was betting bigger and bigger without any strategy .

Thats a watse , i am going to try bet doge coin with martingale and see how it goes.

Does anyone have auto betting bot for dogedice ?


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: kuverty on June 10, 2014, 09:53:05 AM
I have used x3 and +100% on lose

Have made 0.5 BTC to 12 and 20 before but you need a lot of luck on that tho

Even with x4 and x5 .

Wow thats about 1000-2000% of profit you maked , hows that work at the end for you ?

I got greedy and lose them all the end

I was betting bigger and bigger without any strategy .

Thats a watse , i am going to try bet doge coin with martingale and see how it goes.

Does anyone have auto betting bot for dogedice ?

Even if you bet 0.1 DOGE and have 1 million, you will bust out eventually... the little profit you could make is not worth it. You will lose it all if you keep doing it but you can still lose at any point. It just takes that one streak of 23 losses which will happen eventually, every 4 million times you try it or so. You can still lose a lot earlier, but you are not expected to make much profit. You would be better off just playing all the DOGE in one bet.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Nobitcoin on June 10, 2014, 10:09:16 AM
The best way would probably not to play and invest your coins on something which isn't gambling.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Loophole on June 10, 2014, 11:33:53 AM
Best strategy? Invest in the bankroll of Just-dice. :D


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 10, 2014, 11:36:21 AM
I have used x3 and +100% on lose

Have made 0.5 BTC to 12 and 20 before but you need a lot of luck on that tho

Even with x4 and x5 .

Wow thats about 1000-2000% of profit you maked , hows that work at the end for you ?

I got greedy and lose them all the end

I was betting bigger and bigger without any strategy .

Thats a watse , i am going to try bet doge coin with martingale and see how it goes.

Does anyone have auto betting bot for dogedice ?

Even if you bet 0.1 DOGE and have 1 million, you will bust out eventually... the little profit you could make is not worth it. You will lose it all if you keep doing it but you can still lose at any point. It just takes that one streak of 23 losses which will happen eventually, every 4 million times you try it or so. You can still lose a lot earlier, but you are not expected to make much profit. You would be better off just playing all the DOGE in one bet.

If i bet 0.1 doge and i have 1 M doge 23 streak will take me down ?


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: MoneyGod on June 10, 2014, 11:37:08 AM
Best strategy? Invest in the bankroll of Just-dice. :D
Yes its good option because playing is mostly in lost and investment give you some good profit I also change myself for this after losing too much in gambling


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: kuverty on June 10, 2014, 11:37:51 AM
Best strategy? Invest in the bankroll of Just-dice. :D

I suggest this. The profits are just huge, hard to beat them with any investment that actually works.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: kuverty on June 10, 2014, 11:44:14 AM
I have used x3 and +100% on lose

Have made 0.5 BTC to 12 and 20 before but you need a lot of luck on that tho

Even with x4 and x5 .

Wow thats about 1000-2000% of profit you maked , hows that work at the end for you ?

I got greedy and lose them all the end

I was betting bigger and bigger without any strategy .

Thats a watse , i am going to try bet doge coin with martingale and see how it goes.

Does anyone have auto betting bot for dogedice ?

Even if you bet 0.1 DOGE and have 1 million, you will bust out eventually... the little profit you could make is not worth it. You will lose it all if you keep doing it but you can still lose at any point. It just takes that one streak of 23 losses which will happen eventually, every 4 million times you try it or so. You can still lose a lot earlier, but you are not expected to make much profit. You would be better off just playing all the DOGE in one bet.

If i bet 0.1 doge and i have 1 M doge 23 streak will take me down ?


Yeah. Assuming a 50-50 chance and doubling after each loss, after one loss, you must put in 21*0.1 DOGE, after two losses it's 0.4 DOGE, after 23 losses you would have to bet 223*0.1 DOGE which is 838860.8 DOGE, almost a million. But you do not have this, because you already bet and lost 0.1+0.2+0.4+ ... + 419430.4 = 838860.7 DOGE in the previous losses, that means you can not use the martingale system any more.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 10, 2014, 11:46:35 AM
Best strategy? Invest in the bankroll of Just-dice. :D

I suggest this. The profits are just huge, hard to beat them with any investment that actually works.

What are the profit investing in JD now ?


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: omahapoker on June 10, 2014, 11:50:21 AM
investing is my strategy on dice games.


invested 3 million JPC in https://jpcdice.com (https://jpcdice.com) last night. now have 3,240,000 JPC



word


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: kuverty on June 10, 2014, 11:55:20 AM
Best strategy? Invest in the bankroll of Just-dice. :D

I suggest this. The profits are just huge, hard to beat them with any investment that actually works.

What are the profit investing in JD now ?

You can see the stats there, hard to give any accurate numbers except for really short-term but you could expect around 1 % per week on your investment. Pretty damn good.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: serje on June 10, 2014, 12:06:20 PM
Best strategy is this one!

1.Never gamble more than you can lose!
2.Never get greedy!
3.Set yourself a small goal!(let's win 0.02BTC)
4.After you win stop gambling!
5.Cash-out!

Does it work for me?
Hell YES! Until I get at number 4 and lose everything!


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: NakedPony on June 10, 2014, 12:07:21 PM
I have used x3 and +100% on lose

Have made 0.5 BTC to 12 and 20 before but you need a lot of luck on that tho

Even with x4 and x5 .

Wow thats about 1000-2000% of profit you maked , hows that work at the end for you ?

I got greedy and lose them all the end

I was betting bigger and bigger without any strategy .

Thats a watse , i am going to try bet doge coin with martingale and see how it goes.

Does anyone have auto betting bot for dogedice ?

Even if you bet 0.1 DOGE and have 1 million, you will bust out eventually... the little profit you could make is not worth it. You will lose it all if you keep doing it but you can still lose at any point. It just takes that one streak of 23 losses which will happen eventually, every 4 million times you try it or so. You can still lose a lot earlier, but you are not expected to make much profit. You would be better off just playing all the DOGE in one bet.

If i bet 0.1 doge and i have 1 M doge 23 streak will take me down ?


No matter how big your deposit / how low your stake.

If you play with 1/1 000 000 bet to double it you have to make 2M bets
(every bet brings 1/1 000 000 but half of them are losses).
To lose a million - you need just 19 losses in a row (2^19 = 500 000).
Chance for that is 1/500 000.

One 1M bet with 50/50 chance is faster ;)
1 single click ))))


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 10, 2014, 12:08:22 PM
Best strategy? Invest in the bankroll of Just-dice. :D

I suggest this. The profits are just huge, hard to beat them with any investment that actually works.

What are the profit investing in JD now ?

You can see the stats there, hard to give any accurate numbers except for really short-term but you could expect around 1 % per week on your investment. Pretty damn good.

I always gamble it away at JD i have invested there before but end up gambling !


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 10, 2014, 12:09:16 PM
Best strategy is this one!

1.Never gamble more than you can lose!
2.Never get greedy!
3.Set yourself a small goal!(let's win 0.02BTC)
4.After you win stop gambling!
5.Cash-out!

Does it work for me?
Hell YES! Until I get at number 4 and lose everything!


LOL

I think every one got crash on no.4

Or after no.5 adding you a no.6 Deposit and gamble again ...


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: NakedPony on June 10, 2014, 12:13:56 PM
Best strategy is this one!

1.Never gamble more than you can lose!
2.Never get greedy!
3.Set yourself a small goal!(let's win 0.02BTC)
4.After you win stop gambling!
5.Cash-out!

Does it work for me?
Hell YES! Until I get at number 4 and lose everything!


LOL

I think every one got crash on no.4

Or after no.5 adding you a no.6 Deposit and gamble again ...

Thats for sure )))


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 10, 2014, 12:15:28 PM
Best strategy is this one!

1.Never gamble more than you can lose!
2.Never get greedy!
3.Set yourself a small goal!(let's win 0.02BTC)
4.After you win stop gambling!
5.Cash-out!

Does it work for me?
Hell YES! Until I get at number 4 and lose everything!


LOL

I think every one got crash on no.4

Or after no.5 adding you a no.6 Deposit and gamble again ...

Thats for sure )))

Forget to add no.7 Repeat and crash again :(

I think its better to stay away from gamble lol i have think about a new way thats investing in cex.io


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: leex1528 on June 10, 2014, 12:47:07 PM
There are no "good strategies"  Every strategy will fail eventually.  The one that gives you the best chance of making anything is Martingale.  But like everyone else said here, it's only a matter of time before you bust.



Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 10, 2014, 12:49:47 PM
Whats the chance for lossing streak of 90% win rate with 1000% + on lose ?


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: anujjain on June 10, 2014, 12:54:17 PM
Whats the chance for lossing streak of 90% win rate with 1000% + on lose ?

Its all depends how much BTC you have, but all strategy will fail.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: leex1528 on June 10, 2014, 12:54:47 PM
Whats the chance for lossing streak of 90% win rate with 1000% + on lose ?

Not sure what the chance is but I have seen 6 in a row way too much, and I don't think you will make money even with like .0000001 base bet, you should run out of money fairly quick.....

Like I said the best method to increase your odds is Martingale, but like every other method you will eventually bust.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: zahra4571 on June 10, 2014, 02:31:02 PM
play on 70% win chance, bet 10k satoshi, if you miss the bet you increase bet amount on 40k, if you win on 40k bet you back on initial bet otherwise you go all in. So you have 3 times to miss, set a goal, cash out more frequently ;)


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: serje on June 11, 2014, 12:48:18 AM
I was regular gambler on luckyb.it until one day I lost all

I was gambling every day to win 0.05BTC and after a few days from 0.2BTC I ended up having 0.67BTC so I went to sleep happy!
When I woke up in the morning I was thinking this is my lucky day!(i wasn't feeling it) and I lost all 0.67!
So all my work was in vain and I even lost 0.2BTC of my own!

This is why I'm saying you have to know when to stop!
I knew I will lose but I lied to myself I will make it to 1BTC


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: atinski on June 11, 2014, 11:05:10 AM
My strategy is to play to win cnance 70% once I get and go out to the site with a lot of Bitcoin and sometimes odes with 0 btc on these sites play the role of luck ;)


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: zetaray on June 11, 2014, 11:34:21 AM
I wish there is a working strategy, there isn't one. I have tried different variations on martingale and they didn't work out. I wasn't betting big, so did not loose much. If there is a system that works, all dice sites would not be online anymore  :D


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: zahra4571 on June 11, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
I wish there is a working strategy, there isn't one. I have tried different variations on martingale and they didn't work out. I wasn't betting big, so did not loose much. If there is a system that works, all dice sites would not be online anymore  :D
There is good working strategy if you have unlimited bankroll :), that is because house edge if there is no house edge the site would not be profitable


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Umer on June 11, 2014, 12:26:31 PM
Well MY strategy is following...

1. Set up a username or password ..
2. Deposit about 0.1 ( high amount of deposit give high amount profit.)
3. First bet 1mbtc two or three times (just to see if the two or three bets over or lower then 50)
4. If the bets are lower then immediately bet over then 50 .. And bet all bitcoin ( sometimes i lose but mostly win..
5. Well the best way Bet 0.1 on winning odds of 90% so it is easy to win .. 0.1=0.2 after 10 bets on 90%odds..
6. If you win cashout
7. if you want to lose just gamble on 30% .. :D


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: jjc326 on June 11, 2014, 03:03:51 PM
I would suggest a Martingale and once you've won a certain amount, STOP.  I think with the faucet you can try a few different things.  You can try 1 x5 bet and then martingale.  You could try to hit like x2 something like 10 times in a row, or you can go for a big score and just keep grinding away at it (it should hit eventually but you'll go days with nothing).


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: gondel on June 11, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
I have tried a lot of time with free faucet but it never work out always

its on x2 lose multiple 100% .
I was almost always gamlbe with the minimum risk and one of 40-50 rolls i make bet with all my cash at minimum risk. And then proceed with little bets. So the chance of losing is very little. Anyway i lost a lot on gambling.
BR


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: leex1528 on June 11, 2014, 03:20:50 PM
I have tried a lot of time with free faucet but it never work out always

its on x2 lose multiple 100% .
I was almost always gamlbe with the minimum risk and one of 40-50 rolls i make bet with all my cash at minimum risk. And then proceed with little bets. So the chance of losing is very little. Anyway i lost a lot on gambling.
BR

You seem to be thinking that each roll is dependent on each other.  They are not, so even if you are betting all your cash at 80% and you have hit 30 rolls in a row above 80, the 31st roll you still have a 20% chance of losing all your money, so yes I guess it is little, but it is the same as the first roll.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: kuverty on June 11, 2014, 03:30:46 PM
... So the chance of losing is very little. Anyway i lost a lot on gambling.
BR
;D

I will now tell you the best strategy for real: instad of making thousands of little bets martingaling, take all the money you would ever spend on gambling and spend it all at once at 50 % odds if you want lot of money, on 95 % if you like less risk. This will give you the best expected value.

That is smart(er) because you won't repeatedly lose 1 % or whatever the house edge is. There are no other strategies that make sense, it's like throwing dice really. Any loss streak does not make it any more probable to win next time, hanging a foot of a rabbit from your computer screen does not make it any more probable either, nor does chanting a mantra.

This kind of game is very easy to simulate at home. I suggest testing your theories at home if you can't handle high school arithmetic.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Mayuyu48 on June 11, 2014, 04:39:41 PM
I was regular gambler on luckyb.it until one day I lost all

I was gambling every day to win 0.05BTC and after a few days from 0.2BTC I ended up having 0.67BTC so I went to sleep happy!
When I woke up in the morning I was thinking this is my lucky day!(i wasn't feeling it) and I lost all 0.67!
So all my work was in vain and I even lost 0.2BTC of my own!

This is why I'm saying you have to know when to stop!
I knew I will lose but I lied to myself I will make it to 1BTC
so your lucky was drained after 0.67 BTC ;D
anyway, did you place your bet in red?

  ;D

I will now tell you the best strategy for real: instad of making thousands of little bets martingaling, take all the money you would ever spend on gambling and spend it all at once at 50 % odds if you want lot of money, on 95 % if you like less risk. This will give you the best expected value.

That is smart(er) because you won't repeatedly lose 1 % or whatever the house edge is. There are no other strategies that make sense, it's like throwing dice really. Any loss streak does not make it any more probable to win next time, hanging a foot of a rabbit from your computer screen does not make it any more probable either, nor does chanting a mantra.

This kind of game is very easy to simulate at home. I suggest testing your theories at home if you can't handle high school arithmetic.
i've tried before and lost few times
All in bet (0.01 BTC), in 95% possibility win
random bet, high, low, low, high, etc
if win so many times, i raise my bet to MAX.
and they still catch me ;D. < 94 to win, i've got 96 :(
> 6 to win, i ever got 1  :-[

but one time i can win 0.07 BTC from initial 0.01 BTC
still a better strategy than *fucking* martingale i think ;D


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: jeffersonairplane on June 11, 2014, 05:20:03 PM
My best strategy is to not use them lol

I ALWAYS ending loosing my money on them. Not worth it.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Joca97 on June 11, 2014, 05:24:44 PM
Best strategy is this one!

1.Never gamble more than you can lose!
2.Never get greedy!
3.Set yourself a small goal!(let's win 0.02BTC)
4.After you win stop gambling!
5.Cash-out!

Does it work for me?
Hell YES! Until I get at number 4 and lose everything!


lol

i made from 100 doge i made 130k doge thats around 0.07 btc and wanted more and lost everything :(


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Bit-Gods on June 11, 2014, 06:29:49 PM
My best strategy is to not use them lol

I ALWAYS ending loosing my money on them. Not worth it.

Hehe yah i was also playing couple months ago, until i started to trade:)
im looking for a PVP game with 50% odds


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: boumalo on June 11, 2014, 06:31:11 PM
My best strategy is to not use them lol

I ALWAYS ending loosing my money on them. Not worth it.

The same for me; I can enjoy to play a little bit of dust or a Dollar or two once in a while if I have the occasion but I treat it carefully

More on martingale here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=610339.new#new


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Ashbite on June 11, 2014, 06:40:47 PM
In my opinion there isnt really a strategy for dice. Its just pure luck really. Martingaling is the 'strategy' I prefer.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: tuanvie on June 11, 2014, 06:52:34 PM
I have not had any luck in the dice game,
often lost patience and that is what makes losing.
My advice when you are just starting to play, play casually, and when it was getting the first stop, and continue tomorrow when you're good mood


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: alani123 on June 11, 2014, 06:56:06 PM
Best strategy is this one!

1.Never gamble more than you can lose!
2.Never get greedy!
3.Set yourself a small goal!(let's win 0.02BTC)
4.After you win stop gambling!
5.Cash-out!

Does it work for me?
Hell YES! Until I get at number 4 and lose everything!

Setting a goal can also drag you down. Like dooown.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 12, 2014, 09:01:05 AM
Best strategy is this one!

1.Never gamble more than you can lose!
2.Never get greedy!
3.Set yourself a small goal!(let's win 0.02BTC)
4.After you win stop gambling!
5.Cash-out!

Does it work for me?
Hell YES! Until I get at number 4 and lose everything!

Setting a goal can also drag you down. Like dooown.

So end up all gambler lose thier wining and thier money after all :(


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Ashbite on June 12, 2014, 09:03:29 AM
Best strategy is this one!

1.Never gamble more than you can lose!
2.Never get greedy!
3.Set yourself a small goal!(let's win 0.02BTC)
4.After you win stop gambling!
5.Cash-out!

Does it work for me?
Hell YES! Until I get at number 4 and lose everything!

Setting a goal can also drag you down. Like dooown.

Well the thing with gamling is, when you win you want more.
And when you lose you want your money back.
Its always(most of the time) a lose situation in the end.
learn to end with some proper earnings or learn to end when u lost some.
Gambling is all about patience and not being greedy.


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: Beymond on June 12, 2014, 09:05:00 AM
Best strategy is this one!

1.Never gamble more than you can lose!
2.Never get greedy!
3.Set yourself a small goal!(let's win 0.02BTC)
4.After you win stop gambling!
5.Cash-out!

Does it work for me?
Hell YES! Until I get at number 4 and lose everything!

Setting a goal can also drag you down. Like dooown.

Well the thing with gamling is, when you win you want more.
And when you lose you want your money back.
Its always(most of the time) a lose situation in the end.
learn to end with some proper earnings or learn to end when u lost some.
Gambling is all about patience and not being greedy.

What misstake people always make is when they are winning they don raise thier bet but when they are losing they keep raising until cover back .


Title: Re: Whats your best strategy on Dice game ?
Post by: boumalo on June 12, 2014, 08:01:57 PM
Best strategy is this one!

1.Never gamble more than you can lose!
2.Never get greedy!
3.Set yourself a small goal!(let's win 0.02BTC)
4.After you win stop gambling!
5.Cash-out!

Does it work for me?
Hell YES! Until I get at number 4 and lose everything!

Setting a goal can also drag you down. Like dooown.

Well the thing with gamling is, when you win you want more.
And when you lose you want your money back.
Its always(most of the time) a lose situation in the end.
learn to end with some proper earnings or learn to end when u lost some.
Gambling is all about patience and not being greedy.

I have not had any luck in the dice game,
often lost patience and that is what makes losing.
My advice when you are just starting to play, play casually, and when it was getting the first stop, and continue tomorrow when you're good mood

Patiente don't increase your chance of winning, it can change when you lose or the amount of time you play and losing patiente don't make you lose either, the mathematical edge of the casino does