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Do you need a Exchange !? We can do it! whit or new method we are able to Exchange your e-money in to the currency you like!

www.realgg.nl 

Ukash

- Ukash -> Bitcoins (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Liberty Reserve (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Western Union (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Paypal (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Ukash -> Neteller (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Perfect Money (15% Fee)
- Ukash -> Webmoney (15% Fee)

Start Trade

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Bitcoins

- Bitcoin -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Liberty Reserve (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Bitcoin -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

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Paypal

 

- Paypal -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Paypal -> Liberty Reserve (15% Fee)
- Paypal -> Western Onion (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Paypal -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

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Liberty Reserve

 

- LibertyR -> Ukash (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Western Union (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Paypal (15% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Neteller (15%Fee)
- LibertyR -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- LibertyR -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

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Western Union

 

- WesternU -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- WesternU -> Ukash (15% Fee)
- WesternU -> Liberty reserve (20% Fee)
- WesternU -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- WesternU -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

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Moneybookers

 

- Moneybookers -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Liberty Reserve (20% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Moneybookers -> Webmoney (10% Fee)

Start Trade

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Neteller

- Neteller -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Neteller -> Liberty Reserve (20% Fee)
- Neteller -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Perfect Money (10% Fee)
- Neteller -> Webmoney (10% Fee)


Start Trade

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Perfect Money

- Perfect Money -> Bitcoin (15% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Liberty Reserve (20% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Western Union (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Ukash (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Paypal (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Moneybookers (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money -> Neteller (10% Fee)
- Perfect Money-> Webmoney (10% Fee)



Start Trade

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WEBMONEY


- Webmoney -> Bitcoin
- Webmoney -> Liberty Reserve
- Webmoney -> Western Union
- Webmoney -> Ukash
- Webmoney -> Paypal
- Webmoney -> Moneybookers
- Webmoney -> Perfect money
- Webmoney -> Neteller

Start Trade

This is a scam they owe me £140 ukash  deposited 2 weeks ago!

Want answer email,  not sent any bitcoins!

AVOID!

If what WillTurner says is true, I'd hope gensen gets banned immediately v_v

thanks for warning

id like to give gensen he benefit of the doubt, but he needs to respond to complaints like ones from Will. That means building a good reputation which is essential to small business. Once realgg.nl has made a name for itself, it doesnt need to prove its credibility anymore.

Because bitcoin is anonymous and decentralized, the honest man's best defense is his community (i.e. this forum) where he can learn who is doing honest business. Those that cannot prove themselves need to have a thread where we can flag them, and the user blacklisted. Its for the good of everyone

well he'd better reply fast.

and even if hes legit slow transfers when charging 15% fees is totally unacceptable by the way..

Hi Will,

I dont understand your complainments here because we had several times contact trough Email,

The las Email that i sent you was like follow:

Dear Will

I see your e/mail now i was in the spam box, i also so see your comments on the website, I must have missed your order, but like you are already noticed i missed it completly because the voucher was still valid, else you had your Coins. (If i wanted to scamm you the vouchers where used)
 
I apologize for the inconvenience
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The £140 where you talk about,  You never loosed it because you exchanged them somewhere else thats what you said!


This is for every body:

if you exhcange a voucher at www.realgg.nl the voucher stays valid till you receive your coins! because i only deposit the vouchers when your order is been handeled and at same time i sent you the coins!


So if you didn't receive coins your voucher is still valid!


Regards Genni

gensen,

Skimming through your posts, it seems as if this isn't the first problem you have had with customers.

I would like to see a screenshot of the email you sent to WillTurner.

Id love to know who is crazy enough to deal with 10-20% commission on exchanges? what the hell ?

Hello,


I never scammed some one purposely in the Exchange  market! I have said it manny times before, but i keep repeating it because it's my reputation where you all talking about.


There are many Exchange orders and i must do it all manualy, Yes there are some mistakes made by me which i always try to make right!
I am not a robot and i make mistakes when i forget some one's order, his vouchers is still valid and he can still use it!

I try to do it in the right way, i am glad that the most customers are happy customers, but i cant live whit the idee that some customers feel like thay are scammed! I i am scammed a few times more than people say that i scammed them!

I am still working to make the site fully automatic, there are some huge change's on the website, but this is not online YET! I try to make a website Update at the end of this month!



Its still not fully automated, but we are working on it and when we at this point, there are no more delays and mistakes  :D





Regards Genni  

  

 

That's a rhetorical question right?

Will Turner try to contact me trough the comment from my website! This i only update and look to ones a week

http://file:///C:/Users/Real%20G&G/Desktop/Contact%20Real%20G&G.png


Kind Regards Genni

Gensen,

You mentioned in a post above that you sent an email to WillTurner that read as follows:


Do you have a screenshot of this email with the time and date visible?

I try to upload a image whit no succes!? i can replay it to you if you like?

Soon the commision's goos down, but the 10-15 % is not so bad, if you see what others ask!

When the site is fully automated you can find a fee of 1-5 % for adding funds to your acccount.


We working hard to get there!

 ;)

Try www.tinypic.com --> upload --> copy/paste the code for images....it will look something like this: 

http://somethingsomethingsomething

I am asking for this because Will claims you have not responded to emails and you claim that you sent him one.  If we can see that the date/time at which you sent this email was prior to Will's posting on the thread, it will give you some credibility.

The screen communication trough mail, this the only one the rest he posted on the comment section on my website!

http://i49.tinypic.com/2l9ml4.png

there are here some members that are scammers them self, they scamm you trough, paypal, ukash, paysafe or what ever they try!

Exchangers please be carfull, whit this so called customers!


Please read this post!!  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67004


Thanks

I googled days to find a exchanger to exchange paypal to btc, but failed. That really help here. Thanks.

Try the automated exchange that I am working on: www.coineta.com , which does not charge any fees. You can open unverified Canadian Paypal account and deposit few cents. Unverified Paypal Canadian accounts are allowed to send money. You can place sell order for either USD, CAD or Bitcoins and it will be matched with opposite order and automatically executed. The difference from other exchanges is that www.coineta.com does not have accounts with Paypal so it can not be shut down so easily.

Seems to be a nice system! i am already trying ;)

http://goldgameland.com performs instant Liberty Reserve to Bitcoin exchanges for 4% fee, and vice versa. Small amounts in the beta phase only.

Hi gensen

I think I need to put a better explanation on my pages. Probably some steps are not obvious. When user registered there will be a unique Bitcoin address assigned to the user. The user should send bitcoins to that address, do trade and then withdraw whatever left of bitcoins. My site is not encouraging storing any bitcoins for a long time. You need to deposit just before placing the trade. The bitcoins will be converted to USD and send to Paypal account.

Best exchanger blog is libertyxpayza.blogspot.com (http://liberty-payza.blogspot.com)
In there I show the proof of transfer to you.
I show you my remain balance. But now only available exchange
between Liberty Reserve and Payza.

Also you can earn money there. Play online game.
That the better exchange site.
Just launch on 21-may-2012

Contact me for detail libertyxpayza@gmail.com

Sketchy posters in sketchy thread...

Good god. People. He's offering Paypal>BTC and BTC>Paypal. Shouldn't that be proof enough he's a scammer?

It asked me for my passwords :o

Hi Matthew

I am still developing my site but it is fully tested for US and Canadian PayPal accounts. Just try to sell me on www.coineta.com 0.01 bitcoin for Canadian or US dollars and tell if it worked. This site is just a hobby for me. I am a highly paid programmer in Canada. Do you think I will waste my time to try scamming people for 1 cent and get arrested?

Minutia,

First of all you don't need to enter passwords if you just want to sell bitcoins. But if you want to buy them you can set up unverified Canadian Paypal account and deposit just few cents. Just try and see if it works

I registered on your site a few days ago, you said your self that maybe it's handy to give some more instructions, it's tru it make thinks more clear!

I know you are no scammer, I gonne try to make a deposit on your website whit paypal ASAP, and post the result on here!

 ;)

Hi Gensen

Yesterday someone posted a sale to 5 bitcoins, I just bought them myself with my paypal account. But I see there are more orders to sell bitcoins right now although a little expensive

Any reviews for the paypal exchange?

Hi coineta,

I tried to make a trade from your webstie, but i have Ducht PP Acount, is this a probb? Ahh we see what happends.
Is there a possibility to see the trade's in transit?

Please let me know

Cheers

Hi Gensen

I think there will be no problem to receive USD in Ducht PP account but the system will check if Paypal asks for a fee to send USD from American account to Dutch and it will not proceed. I think for very small amount below 40 cents there is no fee. There is no Paypal fee if USD goes between two american accounts for any amount

Yes maybe i must pay the fee if the order amount is lager than 40 cents, but this is normal in the Bitcoin Business!
What Bitcoin payment Gateways does your system use because i am searching for a nice one?
I tried to configure an intergrade a few in myn own website but whit no succes !

Do you have some tips?

Maybe we can help each other a little, i can sent you some PP to Bitcoin traffic. Because at my website there are many customers that want to Exchange PP to Bitcoin and i do it no more because fraud and later on PP froze my acounts, how does your system handle fraud?

Hi Gensen

I don't use my PayPal account to accept money that is why PayPal can not close it. Instead of sending money to me users submit their password and I have a software bot that will send money directly from their PayPal account if the match is found. The bot is written now to work with US and Canadian accounts. That is why I said it will not work with Dutch Paypal accounts. It would not be difficult to add support for other languages, but it is not there yet. My application does not store users passwords because it can process trades in few seconds. Some paranoid users can change their password right after the trade. Actually I would advise users to set up separate Paypal accounts for trading bitcons and not to keep big amounts there.
To reduce fraud, like charge backs, user's orders will only be matched with other users of similar rank, where rank is just a number of successful trades. For example, if a user did 100 successful trades then his order will be matched with orders from users who did between 50 and 200 successful trades. So one has to build his reputation first like in bitcoin-otc. Users can also send me evidence of charge backs so I can block people who abuse system. I should automate that too in the future

Using a bot to log into other people's paypal accounts will cause problems.  You will need more than just the username and password.  If the account has not been used recently, or is logged in from a significantly different IP address, paypal will let you log in, but when you try to send money, you will get asked the security questions.

You might be able to get away with making a bunch of throwaway (unverified) accounts.  If you receive only a small amount of money into each (less than $500) you could get away with it.  You could then pay the money out after waiting 60-90 days to make sure there's no chargebacks.  This will be a lot of work, and some of the accounts will get closed due to suspicious payments, so you'll have to factor these losses into your fee schedule.  You'll also have to be careful of getting your IP addresses banned.

That is why now I just support USA and Canada. PayPal does not care as long as IPs for US accounts are located in North America. Yes, if they see someone from Poland for example is trying to login into US PayPal account they will ask additional security questions to make sure account was not hacked. I am also considering creating an applet to tunnel SSL connection to Paypal through users browsers. This way there will be no problem with IP addresses as they will come from the users computers

There are no losses to the site as the risk is transferred to the users themselves. But users need to make sure that transactions are small and they don't keep large amounts in their Paypal accounts that they set up for trading

https://twitter.com/RealGenG

Yes My Twitter Account !?

I use the service of
https://www.spendbitcoins.com/

Its realy good an i Have no problems with it.

Have a look on it

I think that are as many SCAMM exchangers as SCAMM CUSTOMERS


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67004.msg963808#msg963808

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64782.msg902539#msg902539


year try to select carefull who you deal whit Look out exchangers and Customers