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Title: Post Deletion Complaint re: twentyseventy is Deprived
Post by: usagi on June 11, 2014, 05:24:37 AM
Hello. I recently had a post of mine deleted from the securities forum, which contained a textual analysis of twentyseventy's post showing he has a similar posting style to Deprived (a known scammer).

This post was deleted, presumably as being "off topic", despite there being several historically valid reasons for it's existance as pointed out by several mods and Theymos himself.

* Such posts are vital in exposing scammers.
* Such posts are vital in showing how people think and act (their character) so as to enable others to decide whether or not to do business with them.
* It is not the mod's job to intervene in or censor debates or discussions.

It's obvious that off-topic posts are not deleted (by request or otherwise) in the securities forum, leading to many troll threads where posts erupt in a gaggle of puerile accusations. A common tactic is to post a thread with the exact same title and trash another user.  Like this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631605.msg7234573#msg7234573) -- just for example -- and I think you know I could give you a dozen more just like this. And not even about me. Just by trolls who have decided to launch a personal campaign against someone for something as normal as running a self-moderated thread.

But no, I do not mean to say trolling is acceptable because moderators only enforce the rules for some while telling the polloi it's not their job to intervene.

If you are a moderator, and you've formed an opinion about (me or anyone) by listening to people like deprived, eskimobob, ian bakewell, bitcoinoz, fluffypony and the like, you need to sit down and rethink your worldview. All of these people have turned out to be fraudsters and scammers. Most of them ended up attacking me in particular because they didn't want to pay me back. Like bitcoinoz -- I have a message from bitcoinoz promising a return of ~200 BTC worth of shares, but when the time came to pay, he decided to pretend he didn't owe me anything and instead attack me on the scam accusations forum. And moderators listened to him, because he was a GLBSE shareholder and a respected asset issuer. But when it turned out he was a murderer and he ran with his customer's money, I didn't get an apology. The EskimoBob case should also make some of you very ashamed. I had positive OTC transactions for cash with some mods here who took what EskimoBob said about me at face value, despite a massive amount of log evidence and eyewitness reports supporting my case.

I  understand how stressful a moderator job can be, because the massive number of posts and complaints a mod tends to want to sift through wears them down. I know moderators in general want to do a good job, but often times find themselves slipping in the wrong direction because of the stress and because let's face it, power corrupts.

So if you find yourself taking sides against people you don't know based on rumors put out by the in-crowd.... do yourself and the community a favor and retire. You don't need the stress, and we don't need you.


Title: Re: Post Deletion Complaint re: twentyseventy is Deprived
Post by: Maged on June 11, 2014, 05:31:21 AM
That may have been me. Mind posting what was deleted to help jog my memory?


Title: Re: Post Deletion Complaint re: twentyseventy is Deprived
Post by: Maged on June 11, 2014, 05:40:00 AM
Ah, wait, I remember this now. I didn't realize that twentyseventy was the OP, my bad. I'll ask theymos to restore this.


Title: Re: Post Deletion Complaint re: twentyseventy is Deprived
Post by: theymos on June 11, 2014, 11:02:23 AM
Ah, wait, I remember this now. I didn't realize that twentyseventy was the OP, my bad. I'll ask theymos to restore this.

Done.