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Title: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: TECSHARE on June 11, 2014, 03:09:55 PM
ISPs are slowing bandwidth in order to extort everyone into paying even more on top of already insane rates. 96% of customers in the US have 2 or less choices for ISPs. These companies are losing ground as people cancel cable tv plans as they are increasingly using the internet for entertainment. They are attempting to extort customers into signing back up by using anti-competitive practices to hurt their competition. This is beyond entertainment.

These companies are going to strangle the economy as well as limit our ability to freely communicate by throttling the speeds of any inconvenient content. Even if you don't live in the US this is also your problem as the majority of internet infrastructure and services are located in the US. Cancel your cable tv plans and ISP packages even if just for a month. This can not go unchallenged. If it does say hello to internet service plans where you pay extra for using amazon, youtube, or netflix, on top of your already overpriced plans, and expect quality to drop across the board as it is used as a tool to force you into premium services. CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTIONS. Even if it is just for a month. The only thing companies like this understand is when you take a big wet bite out of their asses. Don't let this behavior go unchallenged! What happens when they start throttling cryptocurrencies?

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO): Net Neutrality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fpbOEoRrHyU

http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/25/5431382/the-internet-is-fucked

http://www.thinklafayette.com/comcast-hotspot-plan-turns-every-customers-home-into-public-toilet/

http://vator.tv/news/2014-04-25-netflix-all-but-accuses-comcast-of-outright-extortion

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/netflix-refuses-to-comply-with-verizons-cease-and-desist-demands/

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/04/after-netflix-pays-comcast-speeds-improve-65/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: commandrix on June 11, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
Yeah. Save some bucks, take your laptop, and just walk to your local cafe with Internet access. Bring your laptop, buy some coffee, and we can all sit around and talk loudly about how awesome Bitcoin is, bitch about lame ISPs, talk about how some people shouldn't have children, you know, the usual stuff. And while that's going on, the ISPs will all be going, "WTF??"


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: Mike Christ on June 11, 2014, 11:24:53 PM
I'M MAD AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE

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Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: commandrix on June 11, 2014, 11:27:18 PM
I'M MAD AND I'M NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE

http://alfa.gifs-planet.com/new/1876.gif

Too bad Bitcointalk doesn't have a like button.  ;D


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: Nathonas on June 12, 2014, 01:12:24 AM
Man, we have it even worse in Canada. Some facts - "According to the CIRA 2013 Factbook, Canadians spend more time online than anyone else in the world—an average of 45 hours a month...According to Harvard researchers, Canada has some of the lowest internet standards among OECD countries, as a result of high costs and slow internet speeds."

You are absolutely right, as more and more people stop watching TV (I haven't watched it for probably about 5 years) these companies lose more profit so they're trying to fuck us over. This wonderful video comes to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: beetcoin on June 12, 2014, 01:15:06 AM
Man, we have it even worse in Canada. Some facts - "According to the CIRA 2013 Factbook, Canadians spend more time online than anyone else in the world—an average of 45 hours a month...According to Harvard researchers, Canada has some of the lowest internet standards among OECD countries, as a result of high costs and slow internet speeds."



yeah seems like you guys are under the influence of an oligopoly in canada, and to make matters worse.. there's not a whole lot to do in the inclement colder seasons.


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: commandrix on June 12, 2014, 01:30:21 AM
Would it be too much to ask to create ISPs that are entirely separate from TV?


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: beetcoin on June 12, 2014, 01:52:46 AM
Would it be too much to ask to create ISPs that are entirely separate from TV?

and how would you go about doing that? besides that, a lot of people would be up in arms if that were the case. it would just be another way for ISPs to draw money from us.


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: TECSHARE on June 12, 2014, 02:55:50 AM
Man, we have it even worse in Canada. Some facts - "According to the CIRA 2013 Factbook, Canadians spend more time online than anyone else in the world—an average of 45 hours a month...According to Harvard researchers, Canada has some of the lowest internet standards among OECD countries, as a result of high costs and slow internet speeds."

You are absolutely right, as more and more people stop watching TV (I haven't watched it for probably about 5 years) these companies lose more profit so they're trying to fuck us over. This wonderful video comes to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso

Great video.


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on June 12, 2014, 05:23:03 AM
I wish they would keep net neutrality myself but when you got the whole system rigged
Rap News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-xSP_T0VqU


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 12, 2014, 07:34:28 AM
Man, we have it even worse in Canada. Some facts - "According to the CIRA 2013 Factbook, Canadians spend more time online than anyone else in the world—an average of 45 hours a month...According to Harvard researchers, Canada has some of the lowest internet standards among OECD countries, as a result of high costs and slow internet speeds."

You are absolutely right, as more and more people stop watching TV (I haven't watched it for probably about 5 years) these companies lose more profit so they're trying to fuck us over. This wonderful video comes to mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso


That is one of my favorite videos. They nailed it spot on.


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: btcton on June 12, 2014, 07:39:55 AM
Oh, no, I wouldn't say most households in the U.S. have access to only 2 or less providers. Most people I know have access to quite a few of them, but their prices or speeds are just ridiculous and there is always only 1 more or less decent one that provides coverage where you live.


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 12, 2014, 07:40:44 AM
Oh, no, I wouldn't say most households in the U.S. have access to only 2 or less providers. Most people I know have access to quite a few of them, but their prices or speeds are just ridiculous and there is always only 1 more or less decent one that provides coverage where you live.

Our options are either ultra slow dsl or Comcast. I hate both but comcast is faster.


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: Mike Christ on June 12, 2014, 07:41:13 AM
Oh, no, I wouldn't say most households in the U.S. have access to only 2 or less providers. Most people I know have access to quite a few of them, but their prices or speeds are just ridiculous and there is always only 1 more or less decent one that provides coverage where you live.

I only have access to Time Warner and AT&T :(


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: freedomno1 on June 12, 2014, 07:48:57 AM
Oh, no, I wouldn't say most households in the U.S. have access to only 2 or less providers. Most people I know have access to quite a few of them, but their prices or speeds are just ridiculous and there is always only 1 more or less decent one that provides coverage where you live.

Our options are either ultra slow dsl or Comcast. I hate both but comcast is faster.

Well a few places have Municipal Wire in the USA but otherwise I would say share a network with your neighbors as it seems like the most efficient way to get revenge.

Cancel your subscription but still have a line in a sense.

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/05/16/internet-sharing-how-to-get-revenge-on-the-cable-company/


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 12, 2014, 08:17:17 AM
Oh, no, I wouldn't say most households in the U.S. have access to only 2 or less providers. Most people I know have access to quite a few of them, but their prices or speeds are just ridiculous and there is always only 1 more or less decent one that provides coverage where you live.

Our options are either ultra slow dsl or Comcast. I hate both but comcast is faster.

Well a few places have Municipal Wire in the USA but otherwise I would say share a network with your neighbors as it seems like the most efficient way to get revenge.

Cancel your subscription but still have a line in a sense.

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/05/16/internet-sharing-how-to-get-revenge-on-the-cable-company/

If Sprint ever updates the cell network around here I might go with my 4g connection as my primary internet.


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: freedomno1 on June 12, 2014, 09:32:50 AM
Oh, no, I wouldn't say most households in the U.S. have access to only 2 or less providers. Most people I know have access to quite a few of them, but their prices or speeds are just ridiculous and there is always only 1 more or less decent one that provides coverage where you live.

Our options are either ultra slow dsl or Comcast. I hate both but comcast is faster.

Well a few places have Municipal Wire in the USA but otherwise I would say share a network with your neighbors as it seems like the most efficient way to get revenge.

Cancel your subscription but still have a line in a sense.

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2012/05/16/internet-sharing-how-to-get-revenge-on-the-cable-company/

If Sprint ever updates the cell network around here I might go with my 4g connection as my primary internet.

Just try Republic Wireless if it covers your area and save some cash
https://republicwireless.com/plans
http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2014/05/13/moto-x-vs-moto-g/

Or something from the comments section like this one for tethering
http://www.freedompop.com/offer/mustache


Tethering just means taking the cellular data network and converting it to a signal your gadgets other than phones (such as a laptop computer) can make use of. This allows you to, for example, be a passenger in a car or train and work uninterrupted on your computer.. or provide your own internet access in a hotel which normally charges for access.



Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: TECSHARE on June 13, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
Republic wireless looks like a great deal. Thanks for that.


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: freedomno1 on June 14, 2014, 12:05:50 AM
Republic wireless looks like a great deal. Thanks for that.

No problem its not one of the big companies as well and with a Tether it probably is cheaper and faster than Comcast  ;D
Anyways I have heard only good things about it but give me a heads up on how it works if you switch
Not in the USA myself but I keep track of it :)


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: TECSHARE on June 17, 2014, 09:51:21 AM
I see nothing but good reviews for them, I assume the catch is making sure you live in an area where there is high speed coverage. Just check their coverage maps. Good news is even if the whole nation isn't 4G on Republic Wireless, they still have lower speed service and cell service in most of the country anyway, so you don't have to worry about being stranded on a road trip or something without service. Also because of the WiFi phone service you can really use it internationally for a lot less than other networks with huge roaming fees etc.


Title: Re: Net Neutraility - cancel your subscriptions, even if just for a month
Post by: freedomno1 on June 17, 2014, 11:48:25 PM
I see nothing but good reviews for them, I assume the catch is making sure you live in an area where there is high speed coverage. Just check their coverage maps. Good news is even if the whole nation isn't 4G on Republic Wireless, they still have lower speed service and cell service in most of the country anyway, so you don't have to worry about being stranded on a road trip or something without service. Also because of the WiFi phone service you can really use it internationally for a lot less than other networks with huge roaming fees etc.

Yah they are one of the best out there for sure, and honestly I think that their problem is that they just don't get enough recognition at how competitive they really are which isn't a bad thing to be their top complaint at all, the adjustable plan option depending on how much data you use as well is a bonus and besides Ting don't know any other company that allows you to change your monthly plan depending on if you need it or not basically you can customize it for when you need more or less data XD

And yah it looks like it is a coverage that may be an issue but there were a few other services that cover it more.
At least it shifts into another network though if you need it so I believe it autocovers it.

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/05/30/republic-wireless-19-for-an-unlimited-everything-smartphone-plan/

There is also another provider called Ting haven't tried them myself but they might work if Republic is not in your coverage area
https://ting.com/r/ir3lb6q1j2

The neat thing about Ting is that they have a unique pricing model: you can bring your own Sprint-network phone (some people pick them up on eBay), or buy one directly from them. Then you use talk, text, and data as you see fit and they automatically adjust your plan based on a bucket system with six sizes: Small through XXL. You can add additional phones at $6 per month each and share the same pools.

And as if that wasn’t enough flexibility, you can also jump between any of these plans freely, up to twice each month.

You can read up more on them here
http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/11/16/republic-wireless-old-phone-new-phone-and-a-tempting-competitor/

You can use the Sprint Network so it will likely cover your area that said you will need to look at the map to make sure.

Hope it helps