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Title: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: mb300sd on February 22, 2012, 03:12:39 AM
http://i44.tinypic.com/jal1km.png

Perfectly sloped ask line.. someone placed a bunch of asks at exact intervals..



Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: pirateat40 on February 22, 2012, 03:13:54 AM
I tell you, you just can't win in this game.


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on February 22, 2012, 03:17:10 AM
Nope! Just a basic manipulation.

Or he's trying to sell out and figures "if they're buying, they can buy from me"
I believe he is also the owner of the ask side steps from $4.44-$4.54.


I tell you, you just can't win in this game.


Now do you believe?  :)


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: Zotia on February 22, 2012, 03:17:42 AM
Perfectly sloped ask line.. someone placed a bunch of asks at exact intervals..



No.  MtGoxLive draws lines, not bars.  There are no orders between the "left side of the slope" and the "right side of the slope".  On the "left side of the slope", there is a small order (not large enough to be seen on the graph).   On the "right side of the slope", there is a 17k bidwall.  MtGoxLive just drew a line between those two points.


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: mb300sd on February 22, 2012, 03:20:16 AM
I always thought it drew it in steps, every other wall I've ever seen has been vertical


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on February 22, 2012, 03:20:51 AM
If you notice too, every so often he makes it known that there are another 17k to back it up if someone feels froggy.


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: the joint on February 22, 2012, 03:21:35 AM
Buy!  Tear the house down.


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: bittenbob on February 22, 2012, 03:21:45 AM
This just means there was no bid between that wall and the bottom of that slope. I have seen it all the time. As for the wall fucking with us I am reminded of the walls at 5.20 and 5.25. Someone is having fun fucking with the community. We need to learn not to panic and do the opposite of what they expect, instead of being herded like sheep to the slaughter


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: dopamine on February 22, 2012, 03:22:32 AM
at least the seller is giving you the chance to buy because he or she or them seem to lowering there ask price 4.20 breaks will break the trading range we are in...


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: Crypt_Current on February 22, 2012, 03:26:57 AM
If you notice too, every so often he makes it known that there are another 17k to back it up if someone feels froggy.

I did notice that!  What looked at first glance like a glitch is really ingenious


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: Hunterbunter on February 22, 2012, 03:28:33 AM
lol its all over

EDIT: they weren't fucking with people imo...just changing a leveraged position.


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: Zotia on February 22, 2012, 03:30:07 AM
I always thought it drew it in steps, every other wall I've ever seen has been vertical

Normally, when a wall is placed, people put bids/asks near it so people will buy/sell to them before buying/selling into the wall.


Having a small order and a large order right next to each other like this makes it appear vertical.


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on February 22, 2012, 03:33:57 AM
I always thought it drew it in steps, every other wall I've ever seen has been vertical

Normally, when a wall is placed, people put bids/asks near it so people will buy/sell to them before buying/selling into the wall.


Having a small order and a large order right next to each other like this makes it appear vertical.

Goxlive used to draw in all steps. I think they changed it for readability.


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: mb300sd on February 22, 2012, 03:39:39 AM
I thought it was more readable before.. makes sense to do it in steps since thats exactly where the order is.


Either way, rally stopped in its tracks  >:( >:(


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: bittenbob on February 22, 2012, 03:43:41 AM
I thought it was more readable before.. makes sense to do it in steps since thats exactly where the order is.


Either way, rally stopped in its tracks  >:( >:(

Nope, the attempt to push the price down was stopped in its tracks. The 17.3k BTC wall is gone. This means we can continue a rally upwards now.


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on February 22, 2012, 04:00:19 AM
lol its all over

EDIT: they weren't fucking with people imo...just changing a leveraged position.

Do you think Bitcoinica could internally match a change in mind of this traders magnitude? Seems to me there would be a lot more visible orders being executed in 50BTC chunks then we saw.


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: Hunterbunter on February 22, 2012, 04:40:31 AM
lol its all over

EDIT: they weren't fucking with people imo...just changing a leveraged position.

Do you think Bitcoinica could internally match a change in mind of this traders magnitude? Seems to me there would be a lot more visible orders being executed in 50BTC chunks then we saw.


If I misunderstand bitcoinica (and they do actually trade on Gox depending on their user's positions), then what you says makes sense. The other alternative is slightly deleveraging to reduce the exposure to a move. If a person of that power is holding the market down in anticipation of a leveraged downward move, it would make sense to be jumpy / want to protect their position.

oh look the wall is back


Title: Re: This is new... someones f***ing with us.
Post by: Oldminer on February 22, 2012, 06:13:26 AM
This just means there was no bid between that wall and the bottom of that slope. I have seen it all the time. As for the wall fucking with us I am reminded of the walls at 5.20 and 5.25. Someone is having fun fucking with the community. We need to learn not to panic and do the opposite of what they expect, instead of being herded like sheep to the slaughter

Man im so used to this shenanigans that Im almost f*cking brain dead to it...