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Title: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 22, 2012, 04:44:44 AM
http://predictinator.adterrasperaspera.com/

More work needs to be done on it, but apparently my time machine works.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: c_k on February 22, 2012, 04:49:20 AM
Nice!

It's a little scant on detail though - care to elaborate? :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 22, 2012, 05:05:54 AM
Nice!

It's a little scant on detail though - care to elaborate? :D

USD on the left

On the bottom, -30 through 0 is historical data, 0 through 30 is the prediction.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: dunand on February 22, 2012, 12:06:42 PM
how do predict the value? random?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: finway on February 22, 2012, 01:04:20 PM
Can you make it 1000 ?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: fellowtraveler on February 22, 2012, 02:57:20 PM
Would be nice if the historical data contains TWO lines: the actual numbers and the predicted numbers.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 22, 2012, 09:27:15 PM
Would be nice if the historical data contains TWO lines: the actual numbers and the predicted numbers.

It basically does. Its split down the middle, past numbers are -30 through 0, future numbers are 0 through 30.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: nmat on February 22, 2012, 09:28:54 PM
Can you make it 1000 ?

I laughed ;)

So, any details on how the predictions are made? Is there historical data from past predictions?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 22, 2012, 11:09:19 PM
Can you make it 1000 ?

I laughed ;)

So, any details on how the predictions are made? Is there historical data from past predictions?

No historical data, I don't feel like adding any sort of db features. Just, like, screenshot or something


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: rebuilder on February 22, 2012, 11:19:10 PM
For posterity - the current graph predicts a big rally up starting three days from now (feb. 26.), with prices hitting 5.5-ish around feb. 28.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: RaggedMonk on February 23, 2012, 12:31:28 AM
How are these predictions made?  Algorithmically or by-hand?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 23, 2012, 01:05:31 AM
How are these predictions made?  Algorithmically or by-hand?

Magically.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: Mushoz on February 23, 2012, 01:13:49 AM
"For amusement purposes only, not to be used for real trading"

Ahw, did I burst your bubble?  ;D

Would be epic if the graph's semi-correct ^^


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: joulesbeef on February 23, 2012, 01:25:35 AM
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No historical data, I don't feel like adding any sort of db features. Just, like, screenshot or something

so you dont want anyone to see how accurate it's past predictions have been?

You just drew that in paint didnt you?

Have you tried to import than line into the game line rider?

did the racer get stuck where the price plunge?

is it too early to start my garden?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 23, 2012, 01:32:45 AM
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No historical data, I don't feel like adding any sort of db features. Just, like, screenshot or something

so you dont want anyone to see how accurate it's past predictions have been?

You just drew that in paint didnt you?

Have you tried to import than line into the game line rider?

did the racer get stuck where the price plunge?

is it too early to start my garden?


Look at the source, its not an image, its SVG drawn by D3, a popular graphing toolkit.

And theres no past predictions because this was the first day I ran it. Its also predicting low, high, and volume as well, the graph just doesn't draw those yet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: ineededausername on February 23, 2012, 01:38:26 AM
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No historical data, I don't feel like adding any sort of db features. Just, like, screenshot or something

so you dont want anyone to see how accurate it's past predictions have been?

You just drew that in paint didnt you?

Have you tried to import than line into the game line rider?

did the racer get stuck where the price plunge?

is it too early to start my garden?


Look at the source, its not an image, its SVG drawn by D3, a popular graphing toolkit.

And theres no past predictions because this was the first day I ran it. Its also predicting low, high, and volume as well, the graph just doesn't draw those yet.

lol, you need to make it predict better lows and highs.. right now it's predicting a huge trading range all the time.


{ avg: 6.30721081627292, min: 5.97717029571505, max: 6.68582636534018, volume: 131578.285038269, volume_adj: 0.933032931862247 },
{ avg: 6.33598841166913, min: 6.05555391021388, max: 6.59937395447541, volume: 89228.2373129519, volume_adj: 0.785357711657259 },
{ avg: 6.41077179654739, min: 6.03910318723335, max: 6.74578869292621, volume: 108922.844700112, volume_adj: 0.854033088403317 },
{ avg: 6.18726587862432, min: 5.80770199484833, max: 6.59185889633733, volume: 113371.697694707, volume_adj: 0.869546302222994 },
{ avg: 6.47914226820999, min: 6.16057628518267, max: 6.72323286114458, volume: 85413.260047896, volume_adj: 0.772054831543682 },
{ avg: 6.27209567437812, min: 5.95757302516065, max: 6.60335116667514, volume: 80036.9799200255, volume_adj: 0.753307666087896 },


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: joulesbeef on February 23, 2012, 01:43:10 AM
so what you are saying is dont sell right now but go ahead and plant.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 23, 2012, 02:37:54 AM
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No historical data, I don't feel like adding any sort of db features. Just, like, screenshot or something

so you dont want anyone to see how accurate it's past predictions have been?

You just drew that in paint didnt you?

Have you tried to import than line into the game line rider?

did the racer get stuck where the price plunge?

is it too early to start my garden?


Look at the source, its not an image, its SVG drawn by D3, a popular graphing toolkit.

And theres no past predictions because this was the first day I ran it. Its also predicting low, high, and volume as well, the graph just doesn't draw those yet.

lol, you need to make it predict better lows and highs.. right now it's predicting a huge trading range all the time.


{ avg: 6.30721081627292, min: 5.97717029571505, max: 6.68582636534018, volume: 131578.285038269, volume_adj: 0.933032931862247 },
{ avg: 6.33598841166913, min: 6.05555391021388, max: 6.59937395447541, volume: 89228.2373129519, volume_adj: 0.785357711657259 },
{ avg: 6.41077179654739, min: 6.03910318723335, max: 6.74578869292621, volume: 108922.844700112, volume_adj: 0.854033088403317 },
{ avg: 6.18726587862432, min: 5.80770199484833, max: 6.59185889633733, volume: 113371.697694707, volume_adj: 0.869546302222994 },
{ avg: 6.47914226820999, min: 6.16057628518267, max: 6.72323286114458, volume: 85413.260047896, volume_adj: 0.772054831543682 },
{ avg: 6.27209567437812, min: 5.95757302516065, max: 6.60335116667514, volume: 80036.9799200255, volume_adj: 0.753307666087896 },

Thats not the bug you think it is.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: farfiman on February 23, 2012, 05:17:13 AM
How are these predictions made?  Algorithmically or by-hand?

Magically.

So really? What are these numbers from? Why does it predict such a rally? I just don't see how you can predict bitcoin to any real accuracy. You can see trends and that is it

Why are you taking this so seriously? :P


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 23, 2012, 08:19:15 AM
Update: Looks a little more refined. Still can't figure out why the price of BTC is rising so quickly on mtgox.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: finway on February 23, 2012, 08:28:56 AM
Update: Looks a little more refined. Still can't figure out why the price of BTC is rising so quickly on mtgox.

Better job than S3052!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: fellowtraveler on February 23, 2012, 12:34:05 PM
Would be nice if the historical data contains TWO lines: the actual numbers and the predicted numbers.

It basically does. Its split down the middle, past numbers are -30 through 0, future numbers are 0 through 30.

Yes but what I'm saying is, to the RIGHT of the 0, we should see only one line (the prediction) whereas to the LEFT of the 0, we should see two lines (two colors) with one color showing the historical data for each data point while the other color shows what the prediction had been for that same data point.

That we can can see not only the historical data, and the prediction data, but we can see HOW THE prediction data measured up against the historical data WITHOUT having to compare to other images or data sets.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: organofcorti on February 23, 2012, 12:42:19 PM
Would be nice if the historical data contains TWO lines: the actual numbers and the predicted numbers.

It basically does. Its split down the middle, past numbers are -30 through 0, future numbers are 0 through 30.

Yes but what I'm saying is, to the RIGHT of the 0, we should see only one line (the prediction) whereas to the LEFT of the 0, we should see two lines (two colors) with one color showing the historical data for each data point while the other color shows what the prediction had been for that same data point.

That we can can see not only the historical data, and the prediction data, but we can see HOW THE prediction data measured up against the historical data WITHOUT having to compare to other images or data sets.


...and on the right hand side , can you add another line to predict what the predictinator will be predicting at that time? A Bitcoin Predictinator Predictinator if you will? That should increase your accuracy. Btw I did consider a Bitcoin Predictinator Predictinator Predictinator, but that would just be silly.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 24, 2012, 12:42:57 AM
Would be nice if the historical data contains TWO lines: the actual numbers and the predicted numbers.

It basically does. Its split down the middle, past numbers are -30 through 0, future numbers are 0 through 30.

Yes but what I'm saying is, to the RIGHT of the 0, we should see only one line (the prediction) whereas to the LEFT of the 0, we should see two lines (two colors) with one color showing the historical data for each data point while the other color shows what the prediction had been for that same data point.

That we can can see not only the historical data, and the prediction data, but we can see HOW THE prediction data measured up against the historical data WITHOUT having to compare to other images or data sets.

Yeah, but that would require me to record the prediction which requires more code than I've really wanted to put in it.

In addition, what would I record? Merely the next day? The whole 30 days is a complete prediction, so it may get the exact days wrong, but it'll get the general shape over the next 30 days right give or take. So, what you really want is for me to just allow you to predict the past on demand.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: Red Emerald on February 24, 2012, 01:07:37 AM
I think having the prediction lines from yesterday, a week ago, and 30 days ago would be helpful.

D3 looks really cool.  Way prettier than flot.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: drakahn on February 24, 2012, 02:09:12 AM
+1 to historical data

Looks good, we'll see if the price jumps up in a couple days eh


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 24, 2012, 07:13:00 AM
+1 to historical data

Looks good, we'll see if the price jumps up in a couple days eh

Yeah, but we have to get past that drop first.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 25, 2012, 05:20:30 AM
Apparently, it seems if BitcoinCharts is down when my cronjob runs, my Predictinator can't download history and then doesn't update on time. Lawlz.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on February 27, 2012, 07:24:05 AM
Well, this is interesting. It is now predicting the market is going to go down, and the market is going down.

Gasp! I wonder if the Predictinator actually works.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on March 15, 2012, 05:15:33 AM
I've updated the algo slightly, it now fast forwards to make it stop continuing to try to predict things that already happened.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: organofcorti on March 15, 2012, 01:16:18 PM
Well, this is interesting. It is now predicting the market is going to go down, and the market is going down.

Gasp! I wonder if the Predictinator actually works.

You wonder? Who wrote Bitcoin Predictinator anyway? Did it fall backwards in time from some bitcoin dominated future?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Predictinator: Tommorow's valuations today!
Post by: DiabloD3 on March 15, 2012, 03:11:03 PM
Well, this is interesting. It is now predicting the market is going to go down, and the market is going down.

Gasp! I wonder if the Predictinator actually works.

You wonder? Who wrote Bitcoin Predictinator anyway? Did it fall backwards in time from some bitcoin dominated future?

Yup, I emailed it to myself from the future.