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Title: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Perrino on June 12, 2014, 11:05:32 PM 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心
2014年06月12日 16:56 经济参考报 一年间涨幅曾超过80倍，一个月内跌幅却将近40% 正当比特币在中国这一最大交易市场走上过山车行情，模仿比特币、采取网络电子盘交易的国内虚拟货币近期涌现。因其名称繁多，发行紊乱，被称为山寨币现象。 《经济参考报》记者调查发现，国内交易的虚拟货币已超百种，年发行总额动辄近亿元人民币；部分山寨币发展线下支付流通功能，市场暴跌造成投资者受损。专家认为，国内正兴起以金融权益化为特征的虚拟货币热，坐庄套利、违规流通及理财风险迭出，成为互联网金融隐患。 国产虚拟货币层出不穷 就在以网络虚拟发行、交易为特征的跨国电子货币比特币大跌的同时，我国模仿比特币的元宝币、熊猫币等线上虚拟货币鱼贯而出。 根据中文虚拟币行情网站聚币网的信息显示，目前在国内可交易的虚拟货币达数十种。2014年1月至今，超过20款线上国产虚拟货币已宣布发行。 《经济参考报》记者调查发现，国产山寨币多模仿比特币，名称也花样百出：2月2日至3日，两天内就有企鹅币、大象币、蜗牛币三款国内虚拟货币宣布上线；同时，一些虚拟货币事先约定未来发行总量，宣称的发行总额不乏上亿元人民币。 以国内虚拟币中规模较大的元宝币为例，该虚拟币宣称年发行520万枚，记者在其网络交易平台看到，6月10日报价探至21 .8元/枚，交易量达4.6万枚。据此计算年内发行总量超过4千万元人民币。 事实上，2014年年初以来，虚拟货币炒作从比特币向其他虚拟货币转移，记者采访了解到，在炒作获利诱惑下，山寨币也出现暴涨暴跌等苗头，造成部分交易者受损。 29岁的上海籍虚拟货币投资者贾某表示，不乏虚拟货币交易平台隐匿历史交易数据，或宣传提供保价回购。记者在交易记录中看到，其于2013年11月30日购入总额约8万元人民币的元宝币，报价约为119元/枚，12月18日卖出时已跌至26元/枚，币值缩水近8成。 此外，不乏虚拟货币涉足实物支付、证券发行行为，一些交易平台已触及金融权益类交易。 山寨虚拟币元宝币的线上交易网站元宝联交所就宣布，3月8日起发行与在美股上市的新能源汽车公司特斯拉(203.52, -0.95, -0.46%)(T esla)股票挂钩的证券化投资品。此外，一些虚拟货币还在发展代币支付流通功能，包括宣布推出国内手机话费充值服务，乃至在一些线上网店中引入虚拟币支付。 开个网站就能发币 与采取开源自律的比特币相比，林林总总的山寨币发行数量、生成方式更不规范。 根据行情交易量数据计算，我国已是最大的比特币交易市场。中国人民银行等五部委在2013年12月发布的《关于防范比特币风险的通知》中已明确，比特币应当是一种特定的虚拟商品，不具有与货币等同的法律地位，不能且不应作为货币在市场上流通使用。按照《中华人民共和国人民币管理条例》第二十九条，任何单位和个人不得印制、发售代币票券，以代替人民币在市场上流通。 然而，各类线上货币采取线上交易、撮合报价，品种迭出，大有方兴未艾之势。 总部设在上海的一家虚拟货币网站负责人表示，由于虚拟币采取的电子生成方式属于代码共享，架设网站、炮制一款山寨币的成本极低。记者调查发现，模仿比特币发行一款山寨币，仅需更改数行代码，数千元就能搭设网站。个别山寨币交易所更堪称交易规则想改就改，历史行情想删就删，一旦行情不妙，平台立刻出手，或调整交易规则，或是推出T +0。 虚拟货币热背后潜藏的风险不容小觑。 一方面，交易平台超范围经营，存在动辄跑路、洗钱、坐庄套利等隐忧。以比特币为例，2013年10月，注册地位于我国香港的G B L平台跑路，卷走超过3000万元人民币；自称账户设在美国的Bitfloor宣布价值25万美元的比特币被盗后，也于2013年4月宣布关闭交易，表示行情形势已经失控。 而与比特币相比，山寨币的运作更加不规范。《经济参考报》记者查阅多家虚拟货币交易平台网站发现，其备案资质多为电子商务或网络咨询。但随着市场规模持续放大，金融权益类交易成为其业务主体，甚至不乏涉嫌违规行为。 比如，《中华人民共和国证券法》第十条规定，未经依法核准，任何单位和个人不得向不特定对象公开发行证券。但在一家名为元宝联交所的网站，其以虚拟币为交易币种，以拆分持有、权益分红的方式公开发行理财产品，还定期发起线上股东分红投票。 另一方面，国产山寨虚拟币大起大落，带来的散户参与风险不言而喻。据介绍，此前多数山寨币通过第三方支付充值、提现，完成充值交易套现的资金链条。但受到各银行和支付机构收紧向虚拟货币平台充值、提现后，目前的主要做法是提供比特币与山寨币之间的即时兑换，曲线绕过监管实现资金转移。 然而，当前虚拟货币热超出网络游戏币范畴，又不适用金融牌照，这一过程资金存在无监管的风险。如莱特币报价从不到1元/枚一度以每天翻番的速度狂飙。质数币、比奥币等各色虚拟币也从每枚几角涨至数十元，但紧随其后的往往是大跌。部分行为游离在金融机构之外，资金不能受到金融机构的监管，已是一个现实的问题。复旦大学法学院教授陈浩然说。 无监管状态需规范 专家认为，虚拟货币兴起，在我国更多是作为游资易炒作的新品种，作为货币缺乏强有力的价值保证，短线炒作虽然短期收益可观，但是风险很大。 针对虚拟货币证券化、支付化带来的金融风险，监管部门普遍已加强规范力度。日本政府今年3月明确，虚拟货币比特币不是货币，证券公司不得充当其交易中介或开设专用账户。比特币交易平台G BL卷款跑路期间，虚拟货币热已造成多国投资者受损。 中国人民银行此前已要求，各金融机构和支付机构不得为客户提供比特币登记、交易、清算、结算等服务。货币本身是一种载体，是一种价值贮藏的手段。这种经过个人设计手段产生，能不能有效履行其支付手段，需要历史回答。中国社科院金融所研究员张跃文认为，比特币等虚拟货币受热捧，也从侧面说明我国投资渠道单一，普通投资者可选择的投资方式有限。 据介绍，对比特币均采取审慎监管，已是目前多国普遍做法。以美国监管部门查处的交易机构自由储备为例，其大部分采用比特币的都是违法交易如洗钱、武器走私。上海财经大学法学院研究员李宇认为，如果缺乏监管，线上无国界货币有沦为非法交易温床的风险。 专家建议，投资者需要冷静的头脑。不盲目跟风、量力而行，充分认识其中的风险。而针对虚拟货币近年发展态势，建立、完善统一的虚拟货币监管平台已成为市场新需求。 张跃文认为，如何保证资金和比特币的安全，组织交易者是否合法、是否有资质，目前的监管力量还不能有效达到这些地方。比特币不能跟现实世界主要的流通币种交易兑换，那么它的价值连一张废纸都不如。即使有些国家承认兑换，这种认可也并非永久。比特币发行随时都有可能被终止，虽然号称去国家控制，但实际依赖于某些个人和机构。 作为货币发行及政策制定方，中国人民银行今年曾在官方微博(18.94, -0.27, -1.41%)表示，短期不会暂停比特币交易。不过，种种国内山寨币已超出了传统虚拟货币的游戏币范畴，有投资者建议，亟待逐步建立及完善虚拟货币经营及准入制度。上海华荣律师事务所合伙人许峰认为，与央行已明确不承认合法地位的比特币相比，山寨虚拟货币数量少、发行主体及方式不透明，受操纵的风险更高。一旦破产、清盘，投资者保护、资本金兑付均是盲区。 Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: cong on June 13, 2014, 05:37:34 AM 山寨币风险巨大。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Chatty on June 14, 2014, 02:03:16 AM 山寨币黑庄无处不在。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Sergas on June 14, 2014, 02:06:25 PM 比特币也有黑庄。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Caelanpelley on June 16, 2014, 06:22:26 AM 感谢分享
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: soaples on June 16, 2014, 07:07:46 AM 风险与收益是成正比的，一个过山车，死了多少人，富了多少人。。。。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: hbonner on June 16, 2014, 11:15:14 AM 好吧，楼主，你真的把我逗笑了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: IOJD on June 16, 2014, 11:36:46 AM 风险与收益是成正比的，一个过山车，死了多少人，富了多少人。。。。 正解.后面没上车的人.在高位还想上车.山寨币还是少碰吧！Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Koechner on June 16, 2014, 12:12:05 PM 山寨币就是买彩票。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: celested on June 16, 2014, 04:44:25 PM 我是小散我怕谁
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Ashleyhunt on June 16, 2014, 05:50:46 PM 感觉不靠谱
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: celested on June 16, 2014, 11:22:22 PM 真的是且行且珍惜
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: JimmieA on June 16, 2014, 11:55:30 PM 不怎么靠谱
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Caelanpelley on June 17, 2014, 12:55:36 AM 等我放假回来再操盘
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: JimmieA on June 17, 2014, 01:29:10 AM 看样子大家还是挺有信心啊
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: scrivenorr on June 17, 2014, 02:19:31 AM 不懂国情啊
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: thwaite on June 17, 2014, 03:01:29 AM 说得有道理
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: thwaite on June 17, 2014, 03:35:03 AM 都怪我太傻
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: gabrielson on June 17, 2014, 06:01:06 AM 学习到了！~
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: hbonner on June 17, 2014, 06:17:53 AM 希望如此，借你吉言
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Karembeu on June 17, 2014, 06:23:54 AM 黑庄无处不在。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: gabrielson on June 17, 2014, 06:26:17 AM 满仓btc，封仓，明年见
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Schreibers on June 17, 2014, 06:50:40 AM 山寨币的黑庄太多了。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Ashleyhunt on June 17, 2014, 06:51:27 AM 呼吁理性思考
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: scrivenorr on June 17, 2014, 06:59:51 AM 先顶在看良好习惯。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: gabrielson on June 17, 2014, 07:16:39 AM 准备起飞
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: scrivenorr on June 17, 2014, 07:50:13 AM 谢谢楼主分享
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Gruevski on June 18, 2014, 12:59:07 AM 小心山寨币。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Varon on June 18, 2014, 04:15:05 AM 警惕山寨币风险。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Ormond on June 18, 2014, 08:44:10 AM 山寨币风险太高。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Margaret on June 18, 2014, 11:28:47 AM 玩山寨币，要警惕黑庄。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Dougray on June 18, 2014, 11:46:07 AM 山寨币就是赌博，风险巨大。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Harrey on June 18, 2014, 02:04:54 PM 山寨币要注意控制风险。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Halley on June 18, 2014, 02:29:24 PM 谨慎投资山寨币。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Marchese on June 18, 2014, 11:36:11 PM 远离山寨币，控制风险。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 19, 2014, 02:34:43 AM 炒币感觉人都精神了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 19, 2014, 02:43:08 AM 楼主有见地
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 19, 2014, 03:05:41 AM 有希望就好
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 19, 2014, 03:22:30 AM 继续吃泡面，坚持到币市复活
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 19, 2014, 03:56:08 AM 社会太复杂，该听谁的
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 19, 2014, 04:04:32 AM 空军飞过
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 19, 2014, 04:12:57 AM 经历了好多
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 19, 2014, 04:21:21 AM 牛逼人都不说话
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 19, 2014, 04:46:35 AM 我理解楼主
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 19, 2014, 04:54:59 AM 太尼玛刺激了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 19, 2014, 05:03:23 AM 此事还需从长计议
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: tomsonlee on June 19, 2014, 05:08:18 AM 山寨币要注意控制风险。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 19, 2014, 05:11:47 AM 比特币太他妈的刺激了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 19, 2014, 05:20:11 AM 我觉得应该政府部门监管比特币，这样电子货币才能长期稳定的发展。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 19, 2014, 05:28:36 AM 佩服楼主
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 19, 2014, 05:37:00 AM 意淫过多天朝会打压的
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 19, 2014, 05:45:25 AM 满血原地复活
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 19, 2014, 05:53:49 AM 最近有没有赚钱的啊
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 19, 2014, 06:02:13 AM 小散喝汤
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 19, 2014, 06:10:37 AM 大胆假设，小心求证，短线致富
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 19, 2014, 06:27:26 AM 我还是觉得下跌空间没有打开，不具备上涨的空间
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 19, 2014, 06:35:51 AM 说的真的是极好的
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 19, 2014, 06:44:15 AM 我理解
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 19, 2014, 06:52:40 AM 准备未来用比特币买房
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 19, 2014, 07:01:04 AM 我越来越失望了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Helene on June 19, 2014, 07:09:06 AM 山寨币风险太大了。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Harney on June 19, 2014, 07:15:46 AM 山寨币投资需谨慎。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 19, 2014, 07:17:53 AM 跳票为主，骗人为辅
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 19, 2014, 07:34:41 AM 官而不语
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 19, 2014, 07:51:30 AM 想的挺好
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 19, 2014, 08:08:24 AM 走的人多了也就成了路
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 19, 2014, 08:16:43 AM 领悟了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 19, 2014, 08:33:35 AM 熙熙攘攘，皆为利往！
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 19, 2014, 08:41:56 AM 比特币是比较公平的
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 19, 2014, 09:32:27 AM 最近小赚一笔
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 19, 2014, 09:57:36 AM 涨涨跌跌，跌跌涨涨
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 19, 2014, 10:06:01 AM 有希望就好
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 19, 2014, 10:14:25 AM 我是估计很难再跌到3000以下，不过能不能涨到10000不好说啊，这价格一直阴晴不定的
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 19, 2014, 10:39:37 AM 想多伤脑
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 19, 2014, 10:56:26 AM 说的太好啦
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 19, 2014, 11:04:53 AM 尼玛这个太狠了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 19, 2014, 11:21:40 AM 谁来保障我们散户利益
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 19, 2014, 11:32:15 AM 希望不要白等这么久，涨吧涨吧涨吧
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 19, 2014, 11:40:40 AM 我还是觉得下跌空间没有打开，不具备上涨的空间
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 19, 2014, 12:05:55 PM 比特币这价格，简直就是成长的烦恼啊
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 19, 2014, 12:14:17 PM 少说多做
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 19, 2014, 12:31:08 PM 准备未来用比特币买房
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 19, 2014, 12:47:55 PM 牛逼人都不说话
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 19, 2014, 01:38:23 PM 好帖，顶起
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 19, 2014, 01:46:45 PM 小学没毕业，只能在中文区混
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 19, 2014, 01:55:10 PM 自己判断
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 19, 2014, 02:03:35 PM 目标破万不敢想，能先回到5000就不错
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 19, 2014, 02:12:13 PM 一枕黄梁
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 19, 2014, 02:28:56 PM 一枕黄梁
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 19, 2014, 02:45:35 PM 比特币是比较公平的
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 19, 2014, 02:54:01 PM 割肉大军和抄底大军擦肩而过，双方冷冷地相互看了一眼，二个字不约而同地从嘴里迸将出来： S B
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: wenjing123 on June 19, 2014, 03:18:05 PM 无限发币套利
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 19, 2014, 03:19:12 PM 还能不能欢乐的炒币了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 19, 2014, 03:27:37 PM 希望如此，借你吉言
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 19, 2014, 03:46:48 PM 说的很好
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 19, 2014, 03:55:18 PM 还是炒币好玩
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: harrier on June 19, 2014, 04:15:54 PM 警惕山寨币黑庄。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 19, 2014, 04:20:22 PM 我表示同意
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 19, 2014, 04:37:11 PM 应该不会反弹，Ghash.io掌握了全网百分之五十一的算力，估计攻击的阴影还没散去，最近负面新闻不断，要等利好消息出现价格才有可能反弹
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 19, 2014, 04:45:35 PM 少说多做
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 19, 2014, 04:54:02 PM 借楼主吉言，真实煎熬啊，神马时候是个头
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 19, 2014, 05:02:23 PM 炒币感觉人都精神了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 19, 2014, 05:36:02 PM 此事还需从长计议
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 19, 2014, 05:44:28 PM 最近比特币怎么样
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 19, 2014, 05:52:56 PM 现在的比特币，还是当年的去中心化理想么
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 19, 2014, 06:01:13 PM 我陷入的思考
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 19, 2014, 06:09:38 PM 学习到了！~
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 19, 2014, 06:18:02 PM 有啥好的投资
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 19, 2014, 06:26:27 PM 和你们这群大神在一个屋子里，我都不敢说话，怕说错你们打我。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 19, 2014, 06:34:51 PM 炒币毁一生，真对
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 19, 2014, 06:43:15 PM 这都是听谁说的
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 19, 2014, 06:51:39 PM 小币民的悲哀
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 19, 2014, 07:00:03 PM 好贴怎能不回帖
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 19, 2014, 07:08:29 PM 不是没道理
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 19, 2014, 07:16:52 PM 我是估计很难再跌到3000以下，不过能不能涨到10000不好说啊，这价格一直阴晴不定的
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 19, 2014, 07:25:17 PM 大胆假设，小心求证，短线致富
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 19, 2014, 07:33:40 PM 比特币投机.炒客太多！
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 19, 2014, 10:59:41 PM 小散喝汤
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 19, 2014, 11:08:09 PM 当真就输了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 19, 2014, 11:16:37 PM 老鼠仓最可气
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 19, 2014, 11:25:05 PM 最近倒霉透了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 19, 2014, 11:33:34 PM 要么涨要么跌要么横盘
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 19, 2014, 11:42:02 PM +5顶起
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 19, 2014, 11:50:30 PM 真希望现在是黎明前的黑暗
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 19, 2014, 11:58:59 PM 比特币太他妈的刺激了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 20, 2014, 12:42:06 AM 小币民的悲哀
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Johnnie on June 20, 2014, 12:42:54 AM 山寨币黑庄无处不在。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 12:59:02 AM 一直看好比特币，它一定不会让我失望的，涨起来涨起来
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 20, 2014, 01:07:30 AM 缺血缺蓝，急需救助
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 20, 2014, 01:15:58 AM 慢慢来吧
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 20, 2014, 01:24:26 AM 能简明概要吗 那么啰嗦，欺负我识字少
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 20, 2014, 01:32:54 AM 慢慢来，会涨回来的，先破5000，再破10000
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 20, 2014, 01:41:22 AM 我还能回本么
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Johnnie on June 20, 2014, 01:45:31 AM 山寨币风险需要警惕。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 20, 2014, 01:58:19 AM 挣钱越来越难了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 20, 2014, 02:06:48 AM 大家保重吧
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 20, 2014, 02:15:16 AM 借楼主吉言，真实煎熬啊，神马时候是个头
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 20, 2014, 02:32:12 AM 心急吃不了热豆腐
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 02:40:40 AM 我表示同意
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 20, 2014, 02:49:09 AM 坚持看多
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 20, 2014, 02:57:36 AM 还是中文区能听懂
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Johnnie on June 20, 2014, 03:02:57 AM 警惕山寨币风险。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 20, 2014, 03:06:04 AM 太专业了，看不懂
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 20, 2014, 03:14:33 AM 当真就输了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 20, 2014, 03:23:01 AM 磨砺小散意志。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 20, 2014, 03:31:29 AM nas好猛，最近
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 20, 2014, 03:39:57 AM 天杀的大v
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 20, 2014, 03:48:26 AM 等我放假回来再操盘
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Greer on June 20, 2014, 04:22:12 AM 山寨币要控制风险。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 20, 2014, 05:38:54 AM 借楼主吉言啊，要不要去补个仓先
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 20, 2014, 05:47:25 AM 我站在高岗
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 20, 2014, 05:55:57 AM 涨涨跌跌，跌跌涨涨
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 20, 2014, 06:12:59 AM 价格这事真不一定，还得看拥护者
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 20, 2014, 06:21:31 AM 我陷入的思考
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 20, 2014, 06:30:02 AM 真受够了，快点涨回来吧
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 20, 2014, 06:38:33 AM 比特币大家都挣钱了么
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 20, 2014, 06:47:05 AM 大家讨论起来
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 20, 2014, 06:55:36 AM 真希望现在是黎明前的黑暗
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 20, 2014, 07:12:39 AM 小心步子急里扯着蛋蛋
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 20, 2014, 07:21:10 AM 要么涨要么跌要么横盘
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Lynn on June 20, 2014, 07:21:15 AM 警惕山寨币风险。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 20, 2014, 07:38:13 AM 想想还有点道理
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 20, 2014, 07:46:44 AM 和你们这群大神在一个屋子里，我都不敢说话，怕说错你们打我。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 20, 2014, 08:12:18 AM 准备未来用比特币买房
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 20, 2014, 08:20:51 AM 我最近挣了些，与楼主分享喜悦
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 20, 2014, 08:29:22 AM 我是小散我怕谁
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 20, 2014, 08:37:53 AM 楼主有见地
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 20, 2014, 08:46:24 AM 有些许道理
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 20, 2014, 09:03:27 AM 中文圈的焦点，从来都不在技术上，都是放在钱上
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 20, 2014, 09:11:58 AM 天朝你懂的
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 20, 2014, 09:20:29 AM 一直看好比特币，它一定不会让我失望的，涨起来涨起来
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 09:29:01 AM BTC比银行强多了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 20, 2014, 09:37:32 AM heading to da moon!!!
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 20, 2014, 09:46:03 AM heading to da moon!!!
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 20, 2014, 10:11:37 AM 跳票为主，骗人为辅
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 20, 2014, 10:20:09 AM 天朝，你懂得
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 20, 2014, 10:28:40 AM 钱不好赚，求人带
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 20, 2014, 10:37:11 AM 踏空割肉说多了都是泪
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 20, 2014, 10:45:44 AM 现在的比特币，还是当年的去中心化理想么
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 20, 2014, 10:54:13 AM 看到这么多人谈比特币，币市大有希望
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 20, 2014, 11:02:45 AM 比特币现在就是官员玩弄的玩具.
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 20, 2014, 11:11:16 AM 尼玛这个太狠了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 20, 2014, 11:19:48 AM 自己的币把握在自己手里.自己做主.自己说了算！
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 20, 2014, 11:28:19 AM 货币数字化
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 11:36:51 AM 好吧，楼主，你真的把我逗笑了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 20, 2014, 11:45:23 AM 坐等比特币飞到10000
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 20, 2014, 11:53:53 AM 坚持看多
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 20, 2014, 12:02:24 PM nnd，最近这行情
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 20, 2014, 12:10:56 PM 说的不错
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 20, 2014, 12:19:27 PM 领悟了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 20, 2014, 12:27:59 PM 还是炒币好玩
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 20, 2014, 12:36:30 PM 经历了好多
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Bourget on June 20, 2014, 12:38:05 PM 【SBEX和BitAccess合作在瑞士部署比特币ATM网络】 加密货币代理商SBEX宣布和加拿大比特币ATM机制造商BitAccess进行合作，准备一起在瑞士部署一个比特币ATM网络
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Bourget on June 20, 2014, 12:39:00 PM 彩云比特发文《如何看待种类繁多的山寨币》，狂喷山寨币。南宫远点评：改革开放初期，中国的私有企业几百家，现在几百万家，南宫远总结：1、开公司的成本越来越低。2、老企业的先发优势难以撼动。3、创新必然引发问题。4、参与创业正视风险
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 20, 2014, 12:45:01 PM 楼主还真是会讨喜，蒙对了显得很牛13,蒙错了帖子不知道沉哪儿去了也没人追究，呵呵
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Bourget on June 20, 2014, 12:52:08 PM 要防范山寨币风险。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 20, 2014, 12:53:33 PM 我理解楼主
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 20, 2014, 01:02:03 PM 今年过节不收礼，收礼只收比特币！
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 20, 2014, 01:10:35 PM 我是小散我怕谁
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Suse on June 20, 2014, 01:12:56 PM 山寨币还是远离的好。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 20, 2014, 01:19:07 PM 顶个贴吧
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 20, 2014, 01:27:38 PM 自己的币把握在自己手里.自己做主.自己说了算！
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 20, 2014, 01:44:41 PM 继续吃泡面，坚持到币市复活
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 20, 2014, 01:53:12 PM 等待btc大爆发
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 20, 2014, 02:01:43 PM 靠山吃山，靠水吃水
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 20, 2014, 02:10:14 PM 有信心，会升吧
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 20, 2014, 02:18:46 PM 借楼主吉言，真实煎熬啊，神马时候是个头
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 20, 2014, 02:27:17 PM 第一次碰btc，闭眼存一年。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 20, 2014, 02:35:48 PM 真受够了，快点涨回来吧
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 20, 2014, 02:44:20 PM 说的不错
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Pemberton on June 20, 2014, 02:45:36 PM Hardbit硬件钱包--中高市值持币者的选择
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 20, 2014, 02:52:51 PM 玩的就是个心态
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Pemberton on June 20, 2014, 02:57:25 PM 比特币纪录片《比特币现象上集》请戳http://t.cn/RvW0d88 巴比特视频组译制，比特币前首席科学家加文. 安德烈森，比特币基金会主席Peter Vessenes等比特币届知名人士谈比特币现象.
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 20, 2014, 03:01:22 PM 迟早会涨回来的，时间问题而已
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 20, 2014, 03:09:54 PM 现在怎么投资
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 20, 2014, 03:26:57 PM 好贴顶起
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 20, 2014, 03:35:28 PM 回到现实吧
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 20, 2014, 03:43:59 PM 好安静，人都去看盘了么
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 20, 2014, 03:52:30 PM 最近比特币怎么样
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 20, 2014, 04:01:01 PM 英语不好，只会abc
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 20, 2014, 04:09:33 PM 旧势力利益集团总是要阻碍新事物的发展
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 20, 2014, 04:18:04 PM 求安慰，求安慰，求安慰
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 20, 2014, 04:26:35 PM 想想还有点道理
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 20, 2014, 04:35:07 PM 比特币比其他山寨币强多了，不会这么一蹶不振的，应该还会涨回来
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 20, 2014, 04:52:10 PM 好帖，顶起
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 20, 2014, 05:00:40 PM 感觉不靠谱
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 20, 2014, 05:43:18 PM 借楼主吉言啊，要不要去补个仓先
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 20, 2014, 05:51:51 PM 小学没毕业，只能在中文区混
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 20, 2014, 06:00:24 PM 最近比特币价格还是很给力的，希望能一直涨
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 20, 2014, 06:08:51 PM 任何事情的推广都是传销的模式，共产主义也是
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 20, 2014, 06:17:22 PM 确实是不知所云
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 20, 2014, 06:51:28 PM 早知道学IT了也搞点东西出来
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 20, 2014, 07:08:30 PM 感谢分享
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 20, 2014, 07:17:06 PM 我陷入的思考
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 20, 2014, 07:34:04 PM 借楼主吉言啊，要不要去补个仓先
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 20, 2014, 08:25:14 PM 我的大狗币，比特币大牛市
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 20, 2014, 08:33:45 PM 我表示同意
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 20, 2014, 08:42:14 PM 炒币毁一生
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 20, 2014, 08:59:18 PM nas好猛，最近
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 20, 2014, 09:07:48 PM 不要钻牛角尖
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 20, 2014, 09:16:20 PM 有些许道理
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 20, 2014, 09:24:52 PM 不要过度解读
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 09:33:22 PM 世事难预料
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 09:41:55 PM 大家都坚持持有么
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 09:50:25 PM 比特币威武
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 09:58:56 PM 谁送我点比特币
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 20, 2014, 10:16:13 PM 最近傻子真多，骗子不够用
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 11:07:10 PM 要么涨要么跌要么横盘
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 11:15:38 PM 求安慰
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 11:24:09 PM 力挺比特币，飞起来
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 20, 2014, 11:32:40 PM 钟本聪还有1百万比特币呢
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 20, 2014, 11:41:12 PM 最近骗子真多，傻子不够用
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 20, 2014, 11:49:43 PM 坐等比特币飞到10000
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 20, 2014, 11:58:14 PM 被套的赶脚
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 21, 2014, 12:06:47 AM 本人小白
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 21, 2014, 12:15:16 AM 你和我想的一样，绝对会大涨的，这段时间准备再进仓
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 21, 2014, 12:23:52 AM 希望能回到去年下半年的价格，飞起来！
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 21, 2014, 12:32:20 AM 心急吃不了热豆腐
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 21, 2014, 12:40:50 AM 大家保重吧
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 21, 2014, 12:49:21 AM 希望能回到去年下半年的价格，飞起来！
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Judi on June 21, 2014, 01:03:47 AM 山寨币风险巨大。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 21, 2014, 01:06:24 AM 我是搞技术的，我对比特币有信心
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 21, 2014, 01:23:26 AM 大家都坚持持有么
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 21, 2014, 01:31:57 AM 不懂英文只能在中文版区混。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 21, 2014, 01:40:28 AM 炒币不如造假新闻的，消息出来就哗啦啦的来钱
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 21, 2014, 01:49:00 AM 不要过度解读
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 21, 2014, 02:06:02 AM 不觉而厉
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 21, 2014, 02:14:34 AM 十分支持，这个帖子应该置顶！
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 21, 2014, 02:23:05 AM 涨涨跌跌，跌跌涨涨
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 21, 2014, 02:31:36 AM 我越来越失望了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Schreibers on June 21, 2014, 02:48:18 AM 山寨币一定要注意风险。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 21, 2014, 02:51:07 AM 淡淡的伤感
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 21, 2014, 02:59:39 AM 经历了好多
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 21, 2014, 03:19:36 AM 差不多就行了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 21, 2014, 03:28:07 AM 挣钱越来越难了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Tess on June 21, 2014, 03:29:50 AM 山寨币黑庄的天下。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 21, 2014, 03:37:13 AM 不要钻牛角尖
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 21, 2014, 03:45:45 AM 比特币大家都挣钱了么
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 21, 2014, 03:54:16 AM 楼主想太多，今年内能回到5000我就心满意足了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 21, 2014, 04:02:47 AM 满血原地复活
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 21, 2014, 04:11:18 AM 好贴怎能沉了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: McAvoy on June 21, 2014, 04:15:46 AM 去中心化交易平台是必须的。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 21, 2014, 04:19:49 AM 力挺比特币
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 21, 2014, 04:28:21 AM 鲜花盛开的一年，价格涨起来
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 21, 2014, 04:36:52 AM 我理解楼主
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 21, 2014, 04:45:23 AM 坐等比特币飞到10000
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 21, 2014, 04:53:55 AM 玩的就是个心态
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 21, 2014, 05:02:26 AM 这个比炒股刺激
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Martucci on June 21, 2014, 05:08:14 AM 【数字货币第一众筹平台】元宝联交所比特币跨平台量化交易基金CBFII项目已经众筹完成，原计划一个月的众筹时间，在开放众筹当天即以超募150%的结果最终结束！ 来元宝联交所众筹，实现创业理想！
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 21, 2014, 05:10:57 AM 价格这事真不一定，还得看拥护者
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Martucci on June 21, 2014, 05:12:47 AM 到处还黑庄，投资需谨慎。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 21, 2014, 05:19:29 AM 谢谢楼主分享
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 21, 2014, 05:28:00 AM 李嘉诚投资，央行打压。对比啊
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 21, 2014, 05:36:31 AM 都怪我太傻
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 21, 2014, 05:45:02 AM nnd，最近这行情
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 21, 2014, 05:53:34 AM 少说多做
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 21, 2014, 06:02:05 AM 感觉不靠谱
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 21, 2014, 06:10:37 AM 有希望就好
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 21, 2014, 06:19:08 AM 能简明概要吗 那么啰嗦，欺负我识字少
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 21, 2014, 06:27:39 AM 比特币比其他山寨币强多了，不会这么一蹶不振的，应该还会涨回来
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 21, 2014, 06:36:10 AM 现在比特币算力太集中了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 21, 2014, 06:44:42 AM 挣钱越来越难了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 21, 2014, 06:53:13 AM 求包养，求包养，求包养
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 21, 2014, 07:10:17 AM 这个可以有
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 21, 2014, 07:18:47 AM 总结的好
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 21, 2014, 07:27:18 AM 世界好复杂
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 21, 2014, 07:35:50 AM 哎，谁说的准啊，阴晴不定的，难预测
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 21, 2014, 07:44:20 AM 现在的比特币，还是当年的去中心化理想么
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 21, 2014, 07:52:52 AM 今年过节不收礼，收礼只收比特币！
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 21, 2014, 09:18:04 AM 割肉大军和抄底大军擦肩而过，双方冷冷地相互看了一眼，二个字不约而同地从嘴里迸将出来： S B
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 21, 2014, 09:26:36 AM 中长期看好
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: xuling430 on June 21, 2014, 09:54:02 AM 跟着喝口汤也不错啊
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Walsh on June 21, 2014, 10:22:11 AM 如果打算投资山寨币，不仅要制定严格的规则，还要努力执行规则。对于投资者来说，规则是个简便的工具。没有规则的人通常在交易中不知如何行动。规则对于山寨币交易和其他传统投资都适用。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 21, 2014, 10:26:14 AM 真的是且行且珍惜
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Piccard on June 21, 2014, 10:33:05 AM 山寨币投资需谨慎。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Teddie on June 21, 2014, 10:42:58 AM 警惕山寨币风险。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Federer on June 21, 2014, 10:50:04 AM 山寨币风险无处不在。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 21, 2014, 11:17:22 AM 比特币比炒股刺激多了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 21, 2014, 11:25:53 AM 炒币感觉人都精神了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 21, 2014, 11:42:55 AM 我是估计很难再跌到3000以下，不过能不能涨到10000不好说啊，这价格一直阴晴不定的
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 21, 2014, 11:51:27 AM 好久没来这个版块了，支持一下版主
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 21, 2014, 11:59:58 AM 好久没闻到肉味了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 21, 2014, 12:08:29 PM 回到现实吧
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 21, 2014, 12:17:00 PM nas 去中心化筛子，一键安装
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 21, 2014, 12:25:32 PM 不知道，借楼主吉言，不过暂时决定5000以下不动
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 21, 2014, 12:34:03 PM 不知道，借楼主吉言，不过暂时决定5000以下不动
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Piccard on June 21, 2014, 12:47:57 PM 山寨币的黑庄，真是太黑了。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Jenessa on June 21, 2014, 12:54:03 PM 山寨币暗流涌动，
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Jenelle on June 21, 2014, 01:11:25 PM 山寨币就是赌博。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 21, 2014, 01:47:13 PM 还需努力
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Chatty on June 21, 2014, 01:52:28 PM 炒山寨币，需要警惕黑庄。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Garant on June 21, 2014, 02:07:50 PM 谢谢提醒。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Carrie on June 21, 2014, 02:42:39 PM 每个山寨币都离不开庄家。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 21, 2014, 02:43:27 PM 小币民的悲哀
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 21, 2014, 02:51:58 PM 我是比特币用户者，但觉得今年会很艰难
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 21, 2014, 03:00:29 PM 准备把工作辞了，来炒币
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 21, 2014, 03:09:00 PM 有希望就好
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 21, 2014, 03:17:32 PM no zuo no die, give me five
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: ios511 on June 21, 2014, 03:21:52 PM 且行且珍惜哦 ;D ;D
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 21, 2014, 03:26:03 PM 你和我想的一样，绝对会大涨的，这段时间准备再进仓
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 21, 2014, 03:34:34 PM 比特币铁杆粉
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 21, 2014, 03:43:06 PM 有些新闻确实不是空穴来风.
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mockingbird on June 21, 2014, 03:51:38 PM 做事要有根
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 21, 2014, 04:00:08 PM 最痛的领悟
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 21, 2014, 04:08:40 PM 希望会好起来，拭目以待
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 21, 2014, 04:17:11 PM no zuo no die
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Jewett on June 21, 2014, 04:18:47 PM 学习一下。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 21, 2014, 04:25:42 PM 最痛的领悟
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 21, 2014, 04:42:44 PM 我感觉大v，网站，作者。都是一伙人
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 21, 2014, 04:51:16 PM 领悟了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 21, 2014, 04:59:47 PM 磨砺小散意志。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 21, 2014, 05:08:18 PM 都怪我太傻
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 21, 2014, 05:16:49 PM 小学没毕业，只能在中文区混
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 21, 2014, 05:25:20 PM 比特币冲啊，相信我不会白等的
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 21, 2014, 05:33:52 PM BTC比银行强多了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Sgambati on June 21, 2014, 05:37:18 PM 山寨币确实是高风险。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 21, 2014, 05:42:23 PM 比特币大家都挣钱了么
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Sgambati on June 21, 2014, 05:46:25 PM 时刻警惕黑庄。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: manbull on June 21, 2014, 05:50:54 PM 中文圈的焦点，从来都不在技术上，都是放在钱上
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 21, 2014, 05:59:26 PM 官而不语
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 21, 2014, 06:07:57 PM 中长期看好
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 21, 2014, 06:16:28 PM 好贴怎能不回帖
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 21, 2014, 06:24:59 PM 我小学没毕业，看不明白
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 21, 2014, 06:33:31 PM 迟早会涨回来的，时间问题而已
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mrmind on June 21, 2014, 06:42:02 PM 现在比特币算力太集中了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 21, 2014, 06:50:33 PM 国情决定一切
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: morlun on June 21, 2014, 06:59:04 PM 比特币比炒股刺激多了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 21, 2014, 07:07:36 PM 旧势力利益集团总是要阻碍新事物的发展
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: marvelboy on June 21, 2014, 07:16:07 PM 从长计议
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mastermold on June 21, 2014, 07:24:39 PM 不懂国情啊
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterchief001 on June 21, 2014, 07:33:10 PM 第一次碰btc，闭眼存一年。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mattermaster on June 21, 2014, 07:41:41 PM 最近有没有赚钱的啊
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 21, 2014, 07:58:43 PM 最近小赚一笔
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mocker001 on June 21, 2014, 08:07:15 PM 我感觉大v，网站，作者。都是一伙人
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxwelllord on June 21, 2014, 08:15:46 PM 感觉跟没说差不多.
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: namorthesu on June 21, 2014, 08:24:17 PM 好日子又来了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 21, 2014, 08:32:49 PM 这个可以有
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: masterorder on June 21, 2014, 08:49:51 PM 早就知道了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maxpayneh on June 21, 2014, 08:58:22 PM 有些新闻确实不是空穴来风.
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mothmanh on June 21, 2014, 09:06:53 PM 不觉而厉
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: mojojojo on June 21, 2014, 09:15:25 PM 纯是炒作
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: missmarvel on June 21, 2014, 09:23:56 PM 你们真能扯
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: maneater on June 21, 2014, 09:40:58 PM 炒币感觉人都精神了
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: multiplex on June 21, 2014, 09:49:30 PM 多多参与
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Musa on June 22, 2014, 01:14:09 AM 警惕山寨币黑庄。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Jovan on June 22, 2014, 06:10:43 AM 山寨币风险无处不在。
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Dougray on June 22, 2014, 07:47:17 AM 一年之间暴涨80倍，数月之间又腰斩近半，交易平台或陷入倒闭，或遭遇叫停风波
金融创新大行其道的背景下，比特币等一系列虚拟货币催生了另类理财市场
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: kingtan on June 24, 2014, 08:32:45 AM 我不相信山寨币
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: Velkro on June 24, 2014, 08:34:09 AM 比特币比其他山寨币强多了，不会这么一蹶不振的，应该还会涨回来
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: haiyang867 on June 24, 2014, 09:55:53 AM 跟着黑庄喝汤
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: amy4to on June 24, 2014, 11:30:43 AM 那是12月份行情，没赶上啊，亏死 >:( >:(
Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: wuqing78 on June 25, 2014, 09:28:03 AM 那是12月份行情，没赶上啊，亏死 >:( >:( 哦，错过。。。Title: Re: 山寨币涌现潜藏坐庄套利祸心 Post by: leewhat on June 25, 2014, 09:50:38 AM 不一定是坏事
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