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Title: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: AccountTrader on June 13, 2014, 11:48:21 PM
Anyone using Bitmessage?
https://bitmessage.org




Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: Parazyd on June 13, 2014, 11:50:41 PM
Have it downloaded, but none of my close friends use it. Have the same problem with Threema on Android.
Shame, would love to use both daily.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: jaberwock on June 13, 2014, 11:54:22 PM
No, I just heard that here. What is that like an email or chat?


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: rohnearner on June 14, 2014, 11:18:04 AM
No, I just heard that here. What is that like an email or chat?
Yeah it is a decentralized communications protocol using which you can send encrypted messages to a group or a person.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: ShibaWow on June 14, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
never heard of it, sounds cool though

definitely would use if I was doing some super secret shit :D


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: raganius on June 14, 2014, 11:25:29 AM
I do use. It's a good idea to spread the word about Bitmessage.

The idea is to take back our privacy. Enough of disrespects to our rights.

You can send messages to me if you'd like to (address at signature)

Thank you.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: Parazyd on June 14, 2014, 11:26:18 AM
I do use. It's a good idea to spread the word about Bitmessage. Thank you.

Check out Threema for mobile phones. https://threema.ch/en/

Note: It's pay-to-use, but they accept Bitcoin :)


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: raganius on June 14, 2014, 11:29:15 AM
I do use. It's a good idea to spread the word about Bitmessage. Thank you.

Check out Threema for mobile phones. https://threema.ch/en/

Note: It's pay-to-use, but they accept Bitcoin :)

Thank you. I'll try it :)


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: Hazir on June 14, 2014, 11:30:50 AM
General idea is really awesome but I wonder if this software is really safe. I mean if you can be sure that nobody will intercept your messages. Or there is no some backdoor to the system.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: raganius on June 14, 2014, 11:36:45 AM
General idea is really awesome but I wonder if this software is really safe. I mean if you can be sure that nobody will intercept your messages. Or there is no some backdoor to the system.

I am no expert, but I think the idea with Bitmessage is that the user does not need to rely upon centralised message services (like gmail, for example, who are known to scan our messages to deliver information to our corrupt governments). As to privacy concerns, best best best option is to ally the decentralised message service of Bitmessage with GPG, and you're very protected ;)

Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitmessage
Bitmessage is a decentralized, encrypted, peer-to-peer, trustless communications protocol that can be used by one person to send encrypted messages to another person, or to multiple subscribers. Bitmessage encrypts each users' message inbox using strong encryption and replicates it inside its P2P network mixing it with inboxes of other users in order to conceal user's identity, prevent eavesdropping and protect the network from any control. The Bitmessage communication protocol avoids sender-spoofing through strong authentication, and hides metadata from wiretapping systems.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: Parazyd on June 14, 2014, 12:07:32 PM
I do use. It's a good idea to spread the word about Bitmessage. Thank you.

Check out Threema for mobile phones. https://threema.ch/en/

Note: It's pay-to-use, but they accept Bitcoin :)

Thank you. I'll try it :)

My ID is in my profile so feel free to test it out and send me a message :)


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: eid on June 14, 2014, 12:16:20 PM
I'd like to use this but getting (some of) my friends/family to is another matter. Will download and have a look though. Thanks


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: Auxi on June 14, 2014, 12:22:47 PM
No, I use other things
How many contacts have you got?


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: raganius on June 14, 2014, 12:29:08 PM
I'd like to use this but getting (some of) my friends/family to is another matter. Will download and have a look though. Thanks

I have been introducing Bitmessage to all my friends (and even clients) but only a few has shown any interest at all for it... but, guess what, I've also introduced bitcoin to all of them, and it has been the same... Bitmessage, privacy and Cryptocurrencies walk together: for us, cryptocurrencies users, it's something natural, but for the people who are still out of these novelties, it's something "weird and complicated"


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: ShibaWow on June 14, 2014, 12:34:54 PM
I'd like to use this but getting (some of) my friends/family to is another matter. Will download and have a look though. Thanks

I have been introducing Bitmessage to all my friends (and even clients) but only a few has shown any interest at all for it... but, guess what, I've also introduced bitcoin to all of them, and it has been the same... Bitmessage, privacy and Cryptocurrencies walk together: for us, cryptocurrencies users, it's something natural, but for the people who are still out of these novelties, it's something "weird and complicated"

regular people don't have any use of bitmessage, what would they need secrecy for?
who would they talk to as none of their friends (except you I guess :D) are using bitmessage



Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: eid on June 14, 2014, 12:38:43 PM
I'd like to use this but getting (some of) my friends/family to is another matter. Will download and have a look though. Thanks

I have been introducing Bitmessage to all my friends (and even clients) but only a few has shown any interest at all for it... but, guess what, I've also introduced bitcoin to all of them, and it has been the same... Bitmessage, privacy and Cryptocurrencies walk together: for us, cryptocurrencies users, it's something natural, but for the people who are still out of these novelties, it's something "weird and complicated"


Yes that sounds about right. Many of the people I know just don't see any point in using encryption for messaging and probably think of me as a paranoid nut (I may well be, but that's irrelevant)  ;D

I do think things are changing though as it's becoming increasingly obvious that online privacy without a little effort is a delusion.



I have installed bitmessage and sent a test message, but it is stuck on "waiting for their encryption key" for the last few minutes.


Keep up the good work!


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: eid on June 14, 2014, 12:40:22 PM
I'd like to use this but getting (some of) my friends/family to is another matter. Will download and have a look though. Thanks

I have been introducing Bitmessage to all my friends (and even clients) but only a few has shown any interest at all for it... but, guess what, I've also introduced bitcoin to all of them, and it has been the same... Bitmessage, privacy and Cryptocurrencies walk together: for us, cryptocurrencies users, it's something natural, but for the people who are still out of these novelties, it's something "weird and complicated"

regular people don't have any use of bitmessage, what would they need secrecy for?
who would they talk to as none of their friends (except you I guess :D) are using bitmessage



I disagree; most people value privacy. It's why we put curtains on our windows.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: raganius on June 14, 2014, 12:52:16 PM
I'd like to use this but getting (some of) my friends/family to is another matter. Will download and have a look though. Thanks

I have been introducing Bitmessage to all my friends (and even clients) but only a few has shown any interest at all for it... but, guess what, I've also introduced bitcoin to all of them, and it has been the same... Bitmessage, privacy and Cryptocurrencies walk together: for us, cryptocurrencies users, it's something natural, but for the people who are still out of these novelties, it's something "weird and complicated"

regular people don't have any use of bitmessage, what would they need secrecy for?
who would they talk to as none of their friends (except you I guess :D) are using bitmessage



I disagree; most people value privacy. It's why we put curtains on our windows.

Very true. Privacy is a human necessity. And it is very convenient for Google inc. USA inc. Bankers inc. etc that this false idea that "only criminals need privacy" is dominant.

The fact is that people have been conditioned to give up their privacy and become online exibitionists.

And here we are now in an Orwellian world, where people simply hand their rights away on a plate. Rights that, to be conquered, once have demanded the fight and the lives of many of our past heroes.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: eid on June 14, 2014, 01:07:16 PM
I'd like to use this but getting (some of) my friends/family to is another matter. Will download and have a look though. Thanks

I have been introducing Bitmessage to all my friends (and even clients) but only a few has shown any interest at all for it... but, guess what, I've also introduced bitcoin to all of them, and it has been the same... Bitmessage, privacy and Cryptocurrencies walk together: for us, cryptocurrencies users, it's something natural, but for the people who are still out of these novelties, it's something "weird and complicated"

regular people don't have any use of bitmessage, what would they need secrecy for?
who would they talk to as none of their friends (except you I guess :D) are using bitmessage



I disagree; most people value privacy. It's why we put curtains on our windows.

Very true. Privacy is a human necessity. And it is very convenient for Google inc. USA inc. Bankers inc. etc that this false idea that "only criminals need privacy" is dominant.

The fact is that people have been conditioned to give up their privacy and become online exibitionists.

And here we are now in an Orwellian world, where people simply hand their rights away on a plate. Rights that, to be conquered, once have demanded the fight and the lives of many of our past heroes.

I guess one mans privacy is another mans secrecy.. conditioned indeed. I only hope with enough exposure and education, more people will begin to wake up and see what they have lost.



I have now sent a successful test message. I'll do my best to sell this to my friends.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: raganius on June 14, 2014, 01:12:16 PM
Test message received  8) I have already 6 7 Bitmessage contacts  :-*


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: Yakamoto on June 14, 2014, 01:29:12 PM
I'd like to use this but getting (some of) my friends/family to is another matter. Will download and have a look though. Thanks
Bitmessage, privacy and Cryptocurrencies walk together: for us, cryptocurrencies users, it's something natural, but for the people who are still out of these novelties, it's something "weird and complicated"
This is true. I have shown Bitcoin to many of my colleagues and they think it is really complex or difficult to understand. I aim for personal privacy, but everyone around me comes back with the same responce; "What?"

I have an Aussie friend who hadn't heard about the NSA. Be lived in the same country a year ahead of the news being realeased, and stayed through it, but not once did he actually hear about it.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: eid on June 14, 2014, 01:42:54 PM
Try sending me some test message.

BM-2cTxwdqn7xKkidwUX9BEvGKQJ4GDQuFJrG

sent


p.s. my BM address is now in my profile. Shame I can't change my vote  :)


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: jaberwock on June 14, 2014, 01:49:47 PM
Try sending me some test message.

BM-2cTxwdqn7xKkidwUX9BEvGKQJ4GDQuFJrG

sent


p.s. my BM address is now in my profile. Shame I can't change my vote  :)

After generating the address it is ready to accept messages rightaway? Or do I need to enable it? It is instant? I didn't receive any message yet.


Edit: Eid did you receive my message?


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: eid on June 14, 2014, 01:52:39 PM
Try sending me some test message.

BM-2cTxwdqn7xKkidwUX9BEvGKQJ4GDQuFJrG

sent


p.s. my BM address is now in my profile. Shame I can't change my vote  :)

After generating the address it is ready to accept messages rightaway? Or do I need to enable it? It is instant? I didn't receive any message yet.

Yes, the problem is my end. It's stuck on "sending public key request" for some reason. I'll try again.



eidt: now they both say "waiting for their encryption key". <shrug>


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: raganius on June 14, 2014, 09:07:39 PM
Try sending me some test message.

BM-2cTxwdqn7xKkidwUX9BEvGKQJ4GDQuFJrG

I've just sent you a test message. Sorry I wasn't here before to help you.

I hope it works well for you.

Also, try asking for help here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128230


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: eid on June 14, 2014, 09:25:59 PM

Edit: Eid did you receive my message?


Nope :(


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: raganius on June 14, 2014, 09:30:30 PM

Edit: Eid did you receive my message?


Nope :(

eid, I have been able to communicate all right with you (and also with my other contacts). I only had problems to send messages to jaberwoc and to Parazyd ("Sending public key request" or "Waiting for their encryption key" errors). It seems that they might be doing something wrong...


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: eid on June 14, 2014, 09:33:55 PM

Edit: Eid did you receive my message?


Nope :(

eid, I have been able to communicate all right with you (and also with my other contacts). I only had problems to send messages to jaberwoc and to Parazyd ("Sending public key request" or "Waiting for their encryption key" errors). It seems that they might be doing something wrong...

I had problems with both of those too. Jaberwock seems to have fixed his now though as all my tests just went through.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: jaberwock on June 14, 2014, 09:38:16 PM

Edit: Eid did you receive my message?


Nope :(

eid, I have been able to communicate all right with you (and also with my other contacts). I only had problems to send messages to jaberwoc and to Parazyd ("Sending public key request" or "Waiting for their encryption key" errors). It seems that they might be doing something wrong...

I had problems with both of those too. Jaberwock seems to have fixed his now though as all my tests just went through.

eid I received your message and from you raganius. thanks


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: raganius on June 14, 2014, 09:40:05 PM

Edit: Eid did you receive my message?


Nope :(

eid, I have been able to communicate all right with you (and also with my other contacts). I only had problems to send messages to jaberwoc and to Parazyd ("Sending public key request" or "Waiting for their encryption key" errors). It seems that they might be doing something wrong...

I had problems with both of those too. Jaberwock seems to have fixed his now though as all my tests just went through.

eid I received your message and from you raganius. thanks

very cool! ^^


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: bitmarket.io on June 14, 2014, 10:33:18 PM
They are doing this with the torrent network. Much better.

http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/bittorrent-chat.html


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: raganius on June 15, 2014, 12:48:40 AM
They are doing this with the torrent network. Much better.

http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/bittorrent-chat.html

Very good info. Thank you!


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: centralpark on June 15, 2014, 03:59:41 PM
No, but I'll try later
I think that's good :)


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: eid on June 15, 2014, 05:24:43 PM
They are doing this with the torrent network. Much better.

http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/bittorrent-chat.html

In what way is it much better? Is it the fact of a huge network already in place, or more?


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: ManFromJupiter on June 15, 2014, 05:33:05 PM
No. I hate use things while they are in beta.

Especially if it connected with bitcoins because you know... i want to feel myself secured.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: MidnightRon on June 15, 2014, 05:57:21 PM
No. I hate use things while they are in beta.

Especially if it connected with bitcoins because you know... i want to feel myself secured.
I don't think that this is danger for you security. But if you will use apps while they are in beta you will support devs. So do it, man


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: Parazyd on June 15, 2014, 06:56:40 PM
No. I hate use things while they are in beta.

Especially if it connected with bitcoins because you know... i want to feel myself secured.

Every bitcoin-qt release so far was a beta. :P


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: shogdite on June 17, 2014, 05:45:41 AM
I have it though I've never used it, must of my friends are knuckleheads when it comes to privacy/security stuff.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: megamore on June 17, 2014, 10:23:40 AM
What special if using bitmessage? But I'll trying :)


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: keating on June 17, 2014, 11:20:01 AM
im using Bitmessage


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: DeathProxy on June 17, 2014, 11:25:52 AM
Looks cool and safe. This is my address: BM-2cWCcZrv7odsTACtmjdae7sEdnXoBB6jeB


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: EcuaMobi on June 17, 2014, 01:32:08 PM
I'm using Bitmessage. Here's my address:
BM-2cU8bMdoiVibCFoJwjQ6TbAuDgNEaEYKbn

I hope it will be available for Android soon.

In the meantime, I use TextSecure there.


Title: Re: Anyone using Bitmessage?
Post by: Parazyd on June 17, 2014, 04:36:37 PM
I'm using Bitmessage. Here's my address:
BM-2cU8bMdoiVibCFoJwjQ6TbAuDgNEaEYKbn

I hope it will be available for Android soon.

In the meantime, I use TextSecure there.


You should try out Threema for Android. It's pay-to-use, but it's very secure and they accept Bitcoin :)