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Hey all,

I really want to lend 0.05btc atm.
Ive seen some alt crypto's with big opportunity and i have no btc to spent right now.
In a week u'll get 0.06btc back.
If not, 0.01 per week more.

Never lent here before, but why not.  Wallet?

Where is your line mentioning a valid collateral you would be willing to provide?

He, im sending you a pm now.

I dont want to get into collateral. I hate scamming myself and proving it by giving him 0.06 next sunday.

So, your PMing someone a loan request, and you don't have a collateral at all?  How will you guarantee that you can pay back then?  How will you be "scamming" yourself?  Just send the coins off to a trusted third party escrow.

Havent i already mentioned that i dont want to do collateral? you can downvote me to shit if i dont pay it back, but i sure as hel will.
And yes, there isnt a single reason he should trust me.
I will pay the money back is the last thing im gonna say.

Not worried about collateral on a tiny loan..I will send in a few minutes.  I figure his signature alone can pay it back.

exactly dude, finally someone who understands -,-

And yes scammers have made it hard to loan in good faith.

TX 3c6200f437d686e723a216d58fd961ee7ff01a6495b69650bfdef73dfce3e011

Just send back to: 1BLaze4yPh3kYE2VimWuKedGeJdZekYJXY

thanks, will send it back to your address in one week ;)

That could be something, a early loan on a sig campaign, someway of people signing over a % of their already completed sig campaign BTC to the loaner and then that way the repay comes straight from the campaign and no collateral or trust worry needed.

It's been discussed before and I think Stunna already mentioned that wouldn't do.
Also, just because someone has the ability to pay the lender back, doesn't mean they will.  Just being cautious.

They wouldnt get a choice not to pay back if they only receive their pay after the loan has been paid in some way. Yeah it wouldnt be down to the sig campaign mangers because they do enough work with paying normal pays rather than the extra stuff.

He gets a no collateral loan and you keep pushing escrow?  ???  You aren't even involved in this transaction!  ??? Oh wait, you have a escrow service to spam sell  ::)

Sad really. Good job OP!! don't let lending trolls force you into scammy escrows

This dude was in fact really annoying me with his escrow/collateral talks. Especially cause it wasnt even his trade, and yes it looked like some spam sell shit.

Yeah good job on not falling for it. you pay a 1% fee for the chance of ANOTHER person vanishing with your funds. What a deal!  :P

So, did you make a new account just to trash monbux?   ???

It seemed that way to me too... obvious shill is obvious. What account with 3 activity would know that monbux spams his escrow service everywhere...

I can vouch for monbux, he's extremely reliable, and rest assured, he will not run away with your funds.
If you're still worried you can use someone even more reputable like escrow.ms or TomatoCage.

That was my thought exactly.  He posted 25 minutes after registering, here.  Unless he is a complete genius/physico, it is an alt account. 
Another thing to take note of, BiPolar(ha-ha)Bob stated that escrow fees were 1%, funny how a complete newbie knows that, eh? 

Ashbite, I never offered/asked you to use MY escrow services.  In fact, I did not want anything to do with this deal. :)
If that annoys you, feel free to ignore me.  There is no reason to feed the "scammer" :-/ 

Good Day to you. ;)

You really are one annoying fuck, aren't you.

How come you spend so much time in this forum section anyway? Trying to build up trust with your escrow service til you hit a big transaction and run with the btc?

See, anyone can think up accusations. Not everyone is a loser douche doing it in every thread though, but you are one of those. Good job being you, must be a nice life you have going.

I'm glad someone decided to trust in me in my own thread and gave me the loan anyway, cause with people like you this section would consist of no one borrowing anything to anyone.

good fucking day to you.

Wow. Such Rage. Much accusation.
All we are doing is preventing people from being scammed on no collateral loans, theres really no need to get so defensively aggresive.

Loans are usually fulfilled when they are actually valid, with a reasonable collateral, but the problem is that these loans nearly don't exist anymore.

Wow, that's the biggest post I've ever seen you post!  On a side note, do you still want that 1GHS?  You won it in dev's thread -_-
If you wanted to look like the protagonist, swearing and crying like a baby was not the way to go. :-/

You're posts are useless, this rage post was really the most constructive one I've seen so far.

The voices in your head aren't real dude, Get some help! Talking (writing! :D) to yourself is delusional.

The fact that you are still posting in here is ridiculous, i have never seen someone wanted more attention and being so 'selfish'.
Please leave this thread, your posts have absolutely no value here. And calling me a 'scammer'? are you actually serious?

You can only call me a scammer when i dont pay the money.

and yes i fully agree with acid.

The one who should actually leave it is you. Lending without collateral involves very high risk and it is called GAMBLING. This is the lending section.
And no, whatever you say isn't going to change that. You are looking for gamblers here not lenders.


He can call you, and the other dumb dude, scammer as many times as he wants.

First, you ask for a loan here without collateral thus breaking the rules.
Second, you provide a short and very bland/fake description of what you intend to do with the coins: "Ive seen some alt crypto's with big opportunity".

If you don't want to be called scammer do not look and act like one.

Yeah you are obviously the good guy here arent you? with your rules and lending/gambling knowledge over other people?

The guy already trusted me and i swore that he will get his money back. You can only call me a scammer when i actually scammed.

Just leave this thread for now, dont want to make it more of a discussion.

Yes, I do.


When you want a loan here provide collateral, words and games are useless.

I honestly really hate jumping into fights, but the rule of no collateral =/- loan is sacred. It's pretty much sprouted upon every thread, and people with common sense know this. If you went to a bank, they'd most likely shoo you away if you say, "Yup, I can definitely pay you back."

Nah its cool if you tell the backs that they can "trust you", and you are "honest". Then i find they really want to give you money, normally i dont even show ID to get it. 

I dont want your opinions anymore, it is really annoying me.
All you people come here and talk about collateral, rules and other things.
Me and the guy already made the deal and im gonna keep it, now all leave this thread as it is.

Close it, you aren't scamming anyone but your imaginary friend

I believe you misread.  I called myself a scammer ::)  But then again, reading is not your strong suit.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=577765.0

Paying back this loan doesn't mean anything...  It's just not the right way to do it.  A real loan requires a real collateral.  Not simply just "trust" (considering that you DON'T have any BCT trust).  Anyways, if I were you, and I was planning to scam, I would pay back just to simply troll "Monbux". :)  To "prove him wrong".  But then again, I have never stated that you will NOT pay back.

Wow did not realize a tiny loan would cause all this drama  :-\ Escrow is a good thing when dealing with noobies and larger amounts, but this was a micro loan and he seems legit to me.  If I get burned so be it...

It is wrong in principle, but no one can tell you to avoid gambling of course  :)

The problem is, by giving this loan without security, you are encouraging the scammers to come out of the woodwork. It may be a small amount, but that's how many work. Start small, build and scam. You are actually hurting the process; you are contributing to the ongoing scamming attempts.

"you are encouraging the scammers" That statement is just stupid...lending a person does not encourage scammers...  It is up to the lender if they want collateral or not.

That statement is not stupid, and it makes perfect sense. Lending to someone without collateral will encourage others to do so, since they see that this guy successfully got a loan, and will think they can get one too.
This is called Herd Mentality. You can read more about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_mentality

I did not realize we were a herd in here...

If I want to lend with or without collateral it is my choice... If I get burned feel free to flame me  :P

It is the name of something. It's a behavior.


I personally won't, but you might get negative trust from some members of this forum just for doing so, since you are encouraging scammers.

Im gonna lock this thread up, you people are just to stupid to even react to.

no Blaze, im not gonna burn you.

Payed blaze back.

transaction id: 1d6cb18a08f9f1cd3c6ee29be18b969689758c8ff1c28e0b3adddc818e563f2d

Paid with interest as we agreed on.  All the trolling aside collateral is good if you feel the borrower is new or shady, but not always required.  IT IS UP TO THE LENDER

Wow, you don't have any negative trust.

*fap* *fap* *fap*

And If I need an escrow I'll be sure to contact you when I need one.

Why would I have negative trust?  I did the lending and everyone cried that I did not require collateral since I am the lender it was my choice.

I agree that a no-collateral Bitcoin with a near double return is an HYIP.

In lending, the lender usually wants a guaranteed proof of repayment; that's either by a regular job or other assets to reduce lending risks.

In gambling, you hope to get the promised return (if you win) but assume you can lose your whole investment.

 

Best statement in this thread, seriously.

 :-\

People have to decide for themselves if they do collateral.

The lend went fine in my opinion, got myself some trust now.

Usually when you send a negative trust rating, the user would retaliate and send one back too. This hasn't happened in your case.

You aren't going to ask for an higher unsecured sum now, right?  ::)

everyone has a point but still its his choice.

No big deal, untrusted ratings from deep red dumbasses aren't worth anything.

Will ask for 10 BTC next time cause I have so much trust now.

sarcasm