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Title: 0.5% fee - Pools - Central Cavern Mining Co - Pools
Post by: CentralCavern on June 17, 2014, 11:52:37 AM
The Central Cavern Mining Nodes

Decentralised P2Pool Bitcoin Mining


disclaimer
This is not a business endeavour, just a side project to help miners join p2pool and help spread the hashrate across the entire network.
Use of our pools carries a minimal fee, due to higher server costs in some regions than others, and we have set 0.5% fee across the board. Rest assured, any % we take as a fee is used solely for the purpose of pool maintenance and future upgrades as well as prizes and giveaways.

We have added the Manic Miner flash game on the front page, for a bit of fun!

www.centralcavern.uk (http://www.centralcavern.uk)
WARNING - DATACENTRE NOISE LEVELS - MANIC MINER TUNE IMMINENT!
(Turn down your speakers if you have sensitive hearing!)

Mining Instructions
AMSTERDAM NODE (for Europe / UK)
Code:
eu.centralcavern.uk:9332
 
Your username is your bitcoin wallet address
 
password can be anything you like

DECENTRALISATION OF THE BITCOIN NETWORK
-----------------------------------------
P2POOL TECHNOLOGY
Although we have a .UK domain name, we have opted to take into consideration that there may be more than just UK miners wishing to utilise our Central Cavern P2Pool nodes, and as a result of this, we have one Bitcoin p2pool node setup on the European continent - specifically, in Amsterdam in the Netherlands. If our node proves to become popular, we hope to add nodes across the world in due course.

to follow
Manic Miner High Score Table
with monthly prizes!!!
(once we reach 10 active miners)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 17, 2014, 02:14:51 PM
reserved for giveaways and prizes


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 17, 2014, 08:06:51 PM
seems to be working OK :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 18, 2014, 08:20:49 AM
Raskul, is this your node?

What ping are you getting from your device to this node?


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 18, 2014, 12:06:44 PM
Raskul, is this your node?

What ping are you getting from your device to this node?

Yes mate.
PM'd you.

Last check my ping time, from Edinburgh was 29ms.
Node is on a very substantial VPS  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 18, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
to answer questions from Collider;

the first node is running on a 4xCPU VPS with 8GB Ram and a 80GB solid state disk drive based in Amsterdam running Ubuntu 14.04 x64.
When we are able to add other nodes which may be more local to you, we'll post in the OP and note it here.

thanks for mining in the (de)central(ised) cavern  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 18, 2014, 06:15:15 PM
P2Pool Block Found!  ;D

https://blockchain.info/block/00000000000000001d2134e5e3d3d0bf3ebbd1a843b7d21cc99b2dc9b8921d02


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: BitCoin Operated Boy on June 18, 2014, 08:04:47 PM
The pool looks interesting ;-)

The game reminds me of good old times on C16 and C64 :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 18, 2014, 08:08:58 PM
The pool looks interesting ;-)

The game reminds me of good old times on C16 and C64 :-)

just a BTCit of fun  :D as long as you are not too far away from the node (Amsterdam) - you should get a good ping time, and not too many rejects.
once we have enough miners (10+) going to start prizes for active miners who get the best manic miner scores...

gotta love it retro  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: RoadStress on June 18, 2014, 08:36:21 PM
Please remove the high volume sound when entering the webpage.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: pawlo74 on June 18, 2014, 09:08:11 PM
Hi,

Just wonder why my hashrate is much lower than should be.
And those statistics just not too acurate or what :-\ ?

ping 25ms


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 18, 2014, 09:11:59 PM
Hi,

Just wonder why my hashrate is much lower than should be.
And those statistics just not too acurate or what :-\ ?

ping 25ms
That is due to the method p2pool determines your hashrate, aswell as the timeframe for the statistic.

Wait an hour or two and the hashrate should be roughly that of your miner.

Donīt be alarmed by a high percentage of DOA shares, as long as you are under the p2pool average, you are even getting payed more than your hashrate.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 18, 2014, 09:13:28 PM
Hi,

Just wonder why my hashrate is much lower than should be.
And those statistics just not too acurate or what :-\ ?

ping 25ms

Hashrate will fluctuate as data from your miner is sent in packets, which can often show large variations.
If your ping time from where your miner is, is 25ms, you will see correct and expected shares and correct average earnings.

It also takes a while to ramp in.

Roadstress, i'm afraid the noise is staying, it's designed to be heard in a d/c environment :P


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 18, 2014, 09:15:54 PM

Roadstress, i'm afraid the noise is staying, it's designed to be heard in a d/c environment :P
Just give everyone a direct link to the pool statistics page at the top of the thread and warn them about the sound on the other link.

Otherwise it might look as if you wanted people to get hearing damage... ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 18, 2014, 09:19:25 PM

Roadstress, i'm afraid the noise is staying, it's designed to be heard in a d/c environment :P
Just give everyone a direct link to the pool statistics page at the top of the thread and warn them about the sound on the other link.

Otherwise it might look as if you wanted people to get hearing damage... ;)

Ok, fair enough. The stats page link is there already- i'll add a health warning :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 18, 2014, 09:22:01 PM
New block found... wow we are on fire... now i am annoyed that i didnīt have enough time to ramp up those PPLNS rounds.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 18, 2014, 09:26:32 PM
Added health warning to the OP  :o


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: pawlo74 on June 18, 2014, 09:35:47 PM
Right guys I know I know that's not about money DECENTRALISING but 69pence for 2h 22m 5TH ??


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 18, 2014, 09:44:02 PM
Right guys I know I know that's not about money DECENTRALISING but 69pence for 2h 22m 5TH ??
The payout model is PPLNS, that means your average commitment over a larger timeframe is recorded and you are then payed according to it once a block is found.

You need to wait until all the "shifts" have received work from your miners, then you will receive the maximum payout like on other pools.

Could you tell me the reject percentage of your miners at the moment?


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 18, 2014, 09:44:44 PM
Right guys I know I know that's not about money DECENTRALISING but 69pence for 2h 22m 5TH ??
This is the tx ID for the block: d497e133d719cb2fae1e2eb8ae50708641f4d8c6f2a4a8f28f5948c9cb4eb2fe (https://blockchain.info/tx/d497e133d719cb2fae1e2eb8ae50708641f4d8c6f2a4a8f28f5948c9cb4eb2fe)

as explained, this is not a single pool, this is a node attached to the p2pool network. if you have 5TH/s on the node, it is clear that you are not completely ramped in, and until your miners are completely spooled up on the node, your earnings will be gradual and rise according to your hashrate.

however, currently, there is not any singular 5TH miners on the node.

Even the 1caverneg4URzStAJC9iYiSgxeAo59Uai (https://blockchain.info/address/1caverneg4URzStAJC9iYiSgxeAo59Uai) BTCtc address on the stats page (http://pool.centralcavern.uk:9332/static/), is not yet fully ramped in, and that miner has been pointing at this node since it launched.
don't worry. it'll spool up (looks like our friend became impatient).


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 18, 2014, 09:52:45 PM
Quote
(looks like our friend became impatient)
Yes, well now he can be happy that he will get the same (small) payout for days and days every time a block is found.

Maybe he then understands the PPLNS payout system.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 18, 2014, 09:54:32 PM
yes, well now he can be happy that he will get the same payout for days and days every time a block is found.

Maybe he then understands the PPLNS payout system.

I remember when difficulty first got so high that DGM rounds on bitparking were 400 and 500 hours.
now that's a block round!    :D :D :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 18, 2014, 09:56:51 PM
GH.io also uses PPLNS, the rounds are just shorter. It is the same system though...


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on June 18, 2014, 09:58:41 PM
Right guys I know I know that's not about money DECENTRALISING but 69pence for 2h 22m 5TH ??
How is it that people can invest so much money and not have a clue about their investment?  Seriously... go read up on how mining works, and the different payout systems.

Unbelievable.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 18, 2014, 09:59:18 PM
XXX.io also uses PPLNS, the rounds are just shorter. It is the same system though...


ewwww... he who must not be named ^^^


it's swings and roundabouts really, regardless of where you mine or what algo you use, payouts will more often than not, average the same amount for your hashrate, at the end of the day.
and here was me thinking we were going to start off with 1% of the p2pool network... oh well, more marketing required methinks!  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 18, 2014, 10:07:15 PM
XXX.io also uses PPLNS, the rounds are just shorter. It is the same system though...


ewwww... he who must not be named ^^^ !XXL! is he who must not be named...


it's swings and roundabouts really, regardless of where you mine or what algo you use, payouts will more often than not, average the same amount for your hashrate, at the end of the day.
and here was me thinking we were going to start off with 1% of the p2pool network... oh well, more marketing required methinks!  8)
HA! I caught you on a thought of monopolism! Be prepared to argue your case against the Bitcoin Police of the Mind!

That is how it starts you GH shill! Soon you will want to build the biggest p2pool node available and enslave us all with "your" hashpower!

 ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 18, 2014, 10:29:17 PM
Miner Willy will rule the universe mwahahaha


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 19, 2014, 05:46:47 AM
BTW is this a normal dead / orphan rate of shares?

Does it become lower when the pool pears with more other pools, or is it solely dependant on the miners?


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 19, 2014, 05:51:23 AM
BTW is this a normal dead / orphan rate of shares?

Does it become lower when the pool pears with more other pools, or is it solely dependant on the miners?

Looking at other nodes with similar setup, yes, it looks normal;

this is murdof's node (Greece) http://pool.nitro.gr:9332/static/ - which is running on a slightly less powerful server than ours.

Since launch, at one point we had 7 miners on the node, so i suppose the more miners; the more orphan/dead shares we might see.
So, to answer your questions; it seems normal, however with being quite new to p2pool myself, i'll look further into this when i get some time and report back.



Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 19, 2014, 09:54:03 AM
I think the main source of dead shares was the previous miner (who didnīt understand PPLNS), who also had a higher reject rate

Everyone who is mining on the node now seems to have a good ping.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 19, 2014, 10:21:30 AM
I think the main source of dead shares was the previous miner (who didnīt understand PPLNS), who also had a higher reject rate

Everyone who is mining on the node now seems to have a good ping.

Looks all good to me!

One other thing, i would prefer to keep 0% fee but others have intimated that they wouldn't mind paying a small fee to use centralcavern nodes.

Should i keep it 0% or instigate a minimal fee structure?

I really don't mind either way since miners are free to guve dinations as stated on the noisy page.
Your thoughts on this would be appreciated.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 19, 2014, 10:32:59 AM
I donīt know the cost of a server, apart from the one i recommended for Iceland.

If e.g the Iceland node ends up with 10TH and you can get ~20$ a month from merged mining NMC (currently~3TH for that) or DVC, i would think a voluntary donation would be nice.
I would definately send a donation to cover part of the Iceland node cost.

It also depends on wether you would use the server for anything else, if you need a server with residual ~400GB of storage anyway then it becomes "profitable" quite quickly.

Finally, i think you would probably receive more in donations with a 0% pool fee in comparison to a pool fee.
You will also receive higher donations when people are still able to hear after visiting the pool page ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: murdof on June 19, 2014, 11:51:26 AM
BTW merge mining sounds nice but it really doesn't give you a big profit.
I have for example 13000 Fusioncoin which it is not even traded.
I0C is not traded either.
So if you talk about NMC, DVC, IXC the difficulty is the same as bitcoin but value is very small.

Good to have - but I have come to the conclusion it is a lot of fuss for nothing...

e.g. Huntercoin is a resource hog which is still syncing the blockchain for almost 1 week...
HUC has value but again I don't expect to mine much.
I can't be bothered to go to an exchange tbh.
I just prefer to check my wallet and see the bitcoins coming in...


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 19, 2014, 12:45:32 PM
I think the conclusion in this matter is that the 0% fee should remain.
Murdof is right about the merge mining; it's precious-little for what seems to be just a drain on resources.
I gave up trying to install a HUC wallet locally and i think it will most likely save money by removing it as a merged coin, due to its pull on the VPS resources.

I should also remark; in no way do i expect any donations towards the upkeep, i'm doing this because i enjoy learning and because i feel p2pool is the way we should all be mining. So, please do not feel obliged to give anything as a donation.

I'll set about getting the Iceland server up, hopefully this week as the wife and I are away this weekend.



Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 19, 2014, 01:09:30 PM
I think namecoin gives you around 0.5% extra income, so this should be enough to cover the 20€/month expense (or whatever it takes).

I donīt know how long the setup takes, but it would be a "donation" of your working time most likely. Again, i would give a small donation to help cover the cost of the server.

I thought NMC wouldnīt be too difficult to set up, but i donīt know.

P2pool doesnīt only help decentralize mining, but also helps build reliable Bitcoin nodes, as every server has to run the full copy of the Bitcoin client.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 19, 2014, 01:15:55 PM
I think namecoin gives you around 0.5% extra income, so this should be enough to cover the 20€/month expense (or whatever it takes).

I donīt know how long the setup takes, but it would be a "donation" of your working time most likely. Again, i would give a small donation to help cover the cost of the server.

I thought NMC wouldnīt be too difficult to set up, but i donīt know.

P2pool doesnīt only help decentralize mining, but also helps build reliable Bitcoin nodes, as every server has to run the full copy of the Bitcoin client.

Thing is, the merged coins are all solo mined by the overall node hashrate so there is no guarantee that blocks will be cracked.

 


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 19, 2014, 01:36:37 PM
Ah okay, didnīt know that.

So it basically is very luck dependant.

Another question: How much traffic are you generating on your node?


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 19, 2014, 01:58:24 PM
Welcome on the node, new user :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: murdof on June 19, 2014, 02:15:07 PM
Ah okay, didnīt know that.

So it basically is very luck dependant.

Another question: How much traffic are you generating on your node?

Do you mean web traffic? i.e. how much bandwidth you would need to run it?

If you have Bitcoin P2P on - then it can pull a lot of data.
Otherwise it is minimal. You can run it over DSL line.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on June 19, 2014, 02:45:05 PM
Ah okay, didnīt know that.

So it basically is very luck dependant.

Another question: How much traffic are you generating on your node?
That's correct.  The key here is that when you're merged-mining, you are effectively solo-mining the coins with the node's hash rate.  I've been running my own p2pool node since April, and typically I'm the only one on it (mostly because I don't advertise it since I run it on my rMBP from home).  Since I've been mining, I got lucky and managed to crack a BTC block (on April 26).  That gave me block rewards for NMC, IXC, I0C, DVC.  I've since added FSC.  I'm pretty sure FSC is dead in the water since the last time I checked the website and block explorer were offline, but the last time I was able to access it, my node represented up to half of the entire hashing power of the coin (and I've only got about 1.8TH/s).

At any rate, I guess what I'm stating is that if your node gets a respectable amount of hashing power, merged-mining becomes worthwhile (at least you can trade the NMC, IXC, DVC).  Until then, well...

As for web traffic, if you let p2pool and Bitcoin core have their way, they'll push/pull large amounts of data because peers are constantly hitting your node to download the block/share chains.  You can kind of limit things by setting max connections for both, but running a wide open node will eat up your bandwidth.  It can be detrimental to your node's efficiency, because if your pipe is clogged with a ton of traffic from peers downloading the chains, shares you submit might end up orphaned because they took to long to be broadcast.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 19, 2014, 03:04:09 PM
Don't worry about bandwidth, i have plenty.
With regards the merge coins, i intend to (if we ever find blocks) share them with the miners on the node by way of giveaways etc.

We are a true 0% fee p2pool node and i intend on keeping it that way  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 19, 2014, 04:09:28 PM
I was just wondering whether there would be a chance we would manage to get to 5TB of traffic on the upcoming Iceland node.

However, i think that is pretty unlikely even with full access of p2pool nodes and a big amount of bitcoin core traffic.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 19, 2014, 04:11:47 PM
I was just wondering whether there would be a chance we would manage to get to 5TB of traffic on the upcoming Iceland node.

However, i think that is pretty unlikely even with full access of p2pool nodes and a big amount of bitcoin core traffic.

well, being as I am, i like to be safe rather than mess up, and since other miners are involved, once I get around to setting up the Iceland VPS, it'll be a substantial specification of server. While I'm still weighing things up.. it'll likely be monday next week before I can get around to it, as this week is very busy.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 19, 2014, 04:20:32 PM
No stress.

As stated p2pool plus bitcoin core plus system uses only 2.5GB, so 4GB should be plenty :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 19, 2014, 05:03:42 PM
The central cavern is >1% of the p2pool network,  ;D yay!!

thanks to all cavern miners for joining us!

also, it's a joy to see donations coming in, I would like to reach out and say a BIG thank you to all who have donated BTC and all who mine on our node.
THANK YOU

http://gameshut.org/sites/default/files/Manic%20Miner%20-%20Loading.gif


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: specialed101 on June 19, 2014, 05:08:35 PM
Hi,

    Your pool sounds like just what I've been looking for, but it seems like my miners are hitting a ceiling of a "difficulty" of 999.98. I am used to seeing that as more of a dynamic value. Is that hard-coded on your pool?


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: murdof on June 19, 2014, 05:17:42 PM
Hi,

    Your pool sounds like just what I've been looking for, but it seems like my miners are hitting a ceiling of a "difficulty" of 999.98. I am used to seeing that as more of a dynamic value. Is that hard-coded on your pool?


From P2Pool wiki: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/P2Pool
Q: Why does my miner say it has found a lot of shares but p2pool say I have only found a few?!
A: The real P2Pool difficulty is hundreds of times higher than on normal pools, but p2pool essentially lies to your miner and tells it to work on relatively easy shares so that it submits shares every few seconds instead of every few hours. P2Pool then ignores any submitted shares that don't match the real share difficulty. By doing this, P2Pool can more accurately report your local hash rate and you can see if you are having problems with too many stale shares quickly

I assume that's what you are asking?


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 19, 2014, 05:19:59 PM
The Boss hath spoken ^

thank you Murdof.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on June 19, 2014, 05:36:35 PM
Hi,

    Your pool sounds like just what I've been looking for, but it seems like my miners are hitting a ceiling of a "difficulty" of 999.98. I am used to seeing that as more of a dynamic value. Is that hard-coded on your pool?
The difficulty given out by a p2pool node is based on the total hash rate of the node.  It's designed that way so the node doesn't get flooded with shares that have no chance of actually being an accepted block solution.  There are two difficulty settings that are taken into account: pseudo and actual.  The pseudo difficulty is the difficulty of shares your miner submits.  The only real purpose of this is to make your graphs look pretty.  The actual difficulty determines the value of your share relative to other miners.  It is there to ensure that miners with high hash rates don't completely dominate the share chain.  Again, this is calculated by the node.  You can set your own values if you wish when you connect to the pool:

WALLETADDRESS/DIFF+PSEUDO

the /DIFF is the actual difficulty
the +PSEUDO is the pseudo difficulty

Let's give an example...

If you have a single S1 and you connect to a p2pool node that has a total hash rate of 100TH/s, you'll find that your S1 will very rarely find a share; however, when it does, that share will be worth more than "normal".  Conversely, if you have that same S1 on a p2pool node where it is the only miner, you'll find that your shares are worth the "normal" value.

Hope this helps.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 19, 2014, 05:38:54 PM
Hi,

    Your pool sounds like just what I've been looking for, but it seems like my miners are hitting a ceiling of a "difficulty" of 999.98. I am used to seeing that as more of a dynamic value. Is that hard-coded on your pool?
The difficulty given out by a p2pool node is based on the total hash rate of the node.  It's designed that way so the node doesn't get flooded with shares that have no chance of actually being an accepted block solution.  There are two difficulty settings that are taken into account: pseudo and actual.  The pseudo difficulty is the difficulty of shares your miner submits.  The only real purpose of this is to make your graphs look pretty.  The actual difficulty determines the value of your share relative to other miners.  It is there to ensure that miners with high hash rates don't completely dominate the share chain.  Again, this is calculated by the node.  You can set your own values if you wish when you connect to the pool:

WALLETADDRESS/DIFF+PSEUDO

the /DIFF is the actual difficulty
the +PSEUDO is the pseudo difficulty

Let's give an example...

If you have a single S1 and you connect to a p2pool node that has a total hash rate of 100TH/s, you'll find that your S1 will very rarely find a share; however, when it does, that share will be worth more than "normal".  Conversely, if you have that same S1 on a p2pool node where it is the only miner, you'll find that your shares are worth the "normal" value.

Hope this helps.

this helps a lot, thank you jonnybravo - I had split my miners between addresses and was puzzled as to why my !XXL! singles weren't accepting shares.
now I know. i'll pop them back and just wait  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: specialed101 on June 19, 2014, 05:42:02 PM
Hi,

    Thanks for the quick response. I've only been messing with bitcoin mining for a few weeks now; so please excuse my ignorance. I had thought that it is the "difficulty" setting from the pool that is regulating how hard my miners are working. There have been some very brief peaks in the 1TH/s range for each miner, but they keep throttling down to the 800+ to 900+ GH/s range, underperforming by about 300 GH/s combined.

    This underperformance could impact my potential payout by about 10%, right? I have to admit that it's nice that they are running quite a bit cooler when I use your pool.  ;D However, I would like to get them back up to 1TH/s each. Any ideas?


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on June 19, 2014, 06:15:37 PM
Hi,

    Thanks for the quick response. I've only been messing with bitcoin mining for a few weeks now; so please excuse my ignorance. I had thought that it is the "difficulty" setting from the pool that is regulating how hard my miners are working. There have been some very brief peaks in the 1TH/s range for each miner, but they keep throttling down to the 800+ to 900+ GH/s range, underperforming by about 300 GH/s combined.

    This underperformance could impact my potential payout by about 10%, right? I have to admit that it's nice that they are running quite a bit cooler when I use your pool.  ;D However, I would like to get them back up to 1TH/s each. Any ideas?
Because p2pool is a large network of individual nodes, it is the responsibility of each node to provide difficulty values.  For example, if I look at my own node right now, I see the following:

Code:
2014-06-19 14:10:17.971807 New work for worker! Difficulty: 468.830432 Share difficulty: 1567138.331514 Total block value: 25.064672 BTC including 325 transactions
2014-06-19 14:10:18.010919 New work for worker! Difficulty: 468.830432 Share difficulty: 1567138.331514 Total block value: 25.064672 BTC including 325 transactions
2014-06-19 14:10:18.049984 New work for worker! Difficulty: 64.000000 Share difficulty: 1567138.331514 Total block value: 25.064672 BTC including 325 transactions
2014-06-19 14:10:18.090329 New work for worker! Difficulty: 468.830432 Share difficulty: 1567138.331514 Total block value: 25.064672 BTC including 325 transactions

The three miners with the difficulty of 468.830432 are ones that are using the default node's difficulty settings.  The one with the 64.000000 difficulty has manually set the difficulty as I showed in my previous post.

As for why you're getting ~900GH/s as opposed to the 1TH/s you should be, are you by chance using an Antminer S2?  If yes, I recommend you point it to another pool.  The problem is in the custom version of cgminer that the S2 uses.  That version doesn't play well with p2pool and as a result you'll see that it will only average between 800 and 900 GH/s.  Kano has been working on creating a better driver for the S2, and to compile a new version of cgminer; however, due to the closed-source nature of Bitmain's software, he's been having a difficult time reverse engineering it successfully.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on June 19, 2014, 06:26:20 PM
By the way... just for fun I figured I'd see what kind of ping I'd get for this server from my location (Near Philadelphia in the US):

--- pool.centralcavern.uk ping statistics ---
80 packets transmitted, 79 packets received, 1.2% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 96.268/114.866/289.298/42.460 ms

Not terrible, but with an average of nearly 115ms, I'd see too many rejects.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 19, 2014, 06:27:37 PM
small update: I have chosen the VPS companies I wish to use for Iceland and for the Middle East: waiting to hear back regarding pricing (and other things) and both (fingers crossed) should be active by Tuesday 24th June 2014.
 

:)

EDIT: I'll see if I can get a USA server running at the same time.  ;)

EDIT2: thanks again jonnybravo, very insightful, and good to know regarding the S2 rigs.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: specialed101 on June 19, 2014, 08:35:16 PM
Hi all,

    Thanks for the assistance with the difficulty settings. The tips were very helpful, and gave me some ideas on what else to look for.

    This http://forum.netcodepool.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=238 (http://forum.netcodepool.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=238) kind of went along with one suggestion, and sure enough the numbers have improved, including reducing the rejects.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 19, 2014, 10:01:54 PM
update: Middle East node is currently downloading the Bitcoin blockchain  ;D

Middle East node should be ready in t-48hours Tuesday 24 June 2014.

This will be a 1% fee node.
thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 20, 2014, 06:26:58 AM
Where is middle east node located?


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 20, 2014, 06:29:35 AM
Where is middle east node located?


It will be Isreal; however my first instance was created with too little memory (I was tired and missed points on the setup), so i've scratched it and will be installing

2CPU 4GB RAM and 50GB SSD with unlimited bandwidth.

It seems it will be monday next week before I get around to it, i'd hoped to have both Iceland and Middle East completed by end of play today, the errors set me back a bit.



Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Acejam on June 20, 2014, 03:39:09 PM
Where is middle east node located?


It will be Isreal; however my first instance was created with too little memory (I was tired and missed points on the setup), so i've scratched it and will be installing

2CPU 4GB RAM and 50GB SSD with unlimited bandwidth.

Are you merged mining? If so, you're going to need more RAM than that. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 20, 2014, 03:48:10 PM
Where is middle east node located?


It will be Isreal; however my first instance was created with too little memory (I was tired and missed points on the setup), so i've scratched it and will be installing

2CPU 4GB RAM and 50GB SSD with unlimited bandwidth.

Are you merged mining? If so, you're going to need more RAM than that. :)

The EU node runs fine with the same specifications. However, these severs can easily be upgraded with any hardware needed.
I found the only merged coin which was a drain on resources, was Huntercoin; which has been removed from the node.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Acejam on June 20, 2014, 06:00:54 PM
The EU node runs fine with the same specifications. However, these severs can easily be upgraded with any hardware needed.
I found the only merged coin which was a drain on resources, was Huntercoin; which has been removed from the node.

Once you get more traffic, that will change quite a bit. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 20, 2014, 06:02:04 PM
The EU node runs fine with the same specifications. However, these severs can easily be upgraded with any hardware needed.
I found the only merged coin which was a drain on resources, was Huntercoin; which has been removed from the node.

Once you get more traffic, that will change quite a bit. :)

As explained, the VPS we use are easily upgraded, so this is not an issue; thanks.  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 20, 2014, 07:49:00 PM
They usually also allow you to use around 120% of the payed for hardware, sometimes even more if the actual server is on low load.

"Catastrophic" failure should therefore never occure, but checking the usage once per week is usually a good idea.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 20, 2014, 08:05:29 PM
They usually also allow you to use around 120% of the payed for hardware, sometimes even more if the actual server is on low load.

"Catastrophic" failure should therefore never occure, but checking the usage once per week is usually a good idea.

I check it daily, so no worries, i'll make sure anything that needs upgrading gets done in good time.
by the way, Collider... i'm having 'issues' with my VPS host in Iceland. I'll let you know when I resolve these problems.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 20, 2014, 08:36:31 PM
Sure, just pm me and i can maybe try and help?


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 20, 2014, 09:05:07 PM
Sure, just pm me and i can maybe try and help?

murdof is working on it now. it's an issue on the host regarding mirror downloading of install packages.
i've every faith that we'll be downloading the blockchain to the Iceland node over the weekend  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 20, 2014, 11:12:15 PM
Iceland Node, BTClockchain downloading.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 21, 2014, 06:30:23 AM
Ping from Thor Datacenter to Iceland central cavern p2pool node:

Code:
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=34 ttl=63 time=0.385 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=43 ttl=63 time=0.421 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=44 ttl=63 time=0.427 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=45 ttl=63 time=0.350 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=46 ttl=63 time=0.377 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=47 ttl=63 time=0.347 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=48 ttl=63 time=0.368 ms

Under 1 ms! GOGO Blockhcain :) canīt wait for it to be downloaded.

What is your ping from Scotland to them ras?


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: RoadStress on June 21, 2014, 06:59:12 AM
Under 1 ms! GOGO Blockhcain :) canīt wait for it to be downloaded.

What is your ping from Scotland to them ras?

I don't remember when was the last time when I saw this kind of ping :) Hooray for Iceland node!


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 21, 2014, 07:11:28 AM
Under 1 ms! GOGO Blockhcain :) canīt wait for it to be downloaded.

What is your ping from Scotland to them ras?

I don't remember when was the last time when I saw this kind of ping :) Hooray for Iceland node!
Well, it is also at Thor Datacenter, so I donīt think it is considerably worse than just hooking it up on the same network than your miner :)

Ping is over 60times better than to Netherlands (but you cannot call 40ms high) XD

EDIT: it seems to be better than my ping to my own router.... which is like 5m from where i am... or windows shows pings of under 1ms as 1ms.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 21, 2014, 07:37:37 AM
Ping from Thor Datacenter to Iceland central cavern p2pool node:

Code:
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=34 ttl=63 time=0.385 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=43 ttl=63 time=0.421 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=44 ttl=63 time=0.427 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=45 ttl=63 time=0.350 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=46 ttl=63 time=0.377 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=47 ttl=63 time=0.347 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: seq=48 ttl=63 time=0.368 ms

Under 1 ms! GOGO Blockhcain :) canīt wait for it to be downloaded.

What is your ping from Scotland to them ras?

my ping from Sunny Scawtland;

Code:
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: icmp_seq=0 ttl=50 time=59.715 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=59.802 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: icmp_seq=2 ttl=50 time=62.544 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: icmp_seq=3 ttl=50 time=59.476 ms
64 bytes from 192.71.218.197: icmp_seq=4 ttl=50 time=59.685 ms

so i'll be sticking with the Amsterdam done for now... I've more important locations to set up before I look into an Edinburgh node.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 21, 2014, 07:40:19 AM
Under 1 ms! GOGO Blockhcain :) canīt wait for it to be downloaded.

What is your ping from Scotland to them ras?

I don't remember when was the last time when I saw this kind of ping :) Hooray for Iceland node!

And hooray for P2Pool! anything I can do to spread the network a bit, I'm happy to do  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 21, 2014, 08:20:17 AM
updated OP, 0.5% fee will be put in place for all nodes, starting Monday 23 June 2014.
this is merely to cover running costs and none of the minimal fee will be used for anything other than upkeep, maintenance, and upgrades.
thank you all for mining on our nodes,


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: BitCoin Operated Boy on June 21, 2014, 09:27:46 AM
The pool looks interesting ;-)

The game reminds me of good old times on C16 and C64 :-)

just a BTCit of fun  :D as long as you are not too far away from the node (Amsterdam) - you should get a good ping time, and not too many rejects.
once we have enough miners (10+) going to start prizes for active miners who get the best manic miner scores...

gotta love it retro  8)

I'm based in London.

That's really cool that you will also add merged mining with namecoin so we can have an extra income :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 21, 2014, 11:19:45 AM
The pool looks interesting ;-)

The game reminds me of good old times on C16 and C64 :-)

just a BTCit of fun  :D as long as you are not too far away from the node (Amsterdam) - you should get a good ping time, and not too many rejects.
once we have enough miners (10+) going to start prizes for active miners who get the best manic miner scores...

gotta love it retro  8)

I'm based in London.

That's really cool that you will also add merged mining with namecoin so we can have an extra income :-)

Yes, but please bear in mind the merged coins are solo mined by the node as a whole, so we only earn those if we find a block. All merged coin blocks will be advised via this thread so that everything remains transparent.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 22, 2014, 10:13:35 AM
Canīt wait till the Iceland node will be up tomorrow :)

I am really looking forward to mining with such an excellent ping.

How is the downloading of the blockchain doing? Is everything on track?


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 22, 2014, 10:58:38 AM
Canīt wait till the Iceland node will be up tomorrow :)

I am really looking forward to mining with such an excellent ping.

How is the downloading of the blockchain doing? Is everything on track?

All on track, just need to run the p2pool when i get home. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 22, 2014, 11:08:08 AM
Are you coming home today or tomorrow  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 22, 2014, 12:02:58 PM
Are you coming home today or tomorrow  8)

Tonight, but feel free to ask murdof to do the run command when he wakes from his afternoon nap. He has the login info :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 22, 2014, 12:07:51 PM
Are you coming home today or tomorrow  8)

Tonight, but feel free to ask murdof to do the run command when he wakes from his afternoon nap. He has the login info :)
Yeah, sorry about nagging but i am actually so hyped by the low ping i got before, so i might just try to message him.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 22, 2014, 12:32:21 PM
Are you coming home today or tomorrow  8)

Tonight, but feel free to ask murdof to do the run command when he wakes from his afternoon nap. He has the login info :)
Yeah, sorry about nagging but i am actually so hyped by the low ping i got before, so i might just try to message him.

No worries mate.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: murdof on June 22, 2014, 02:06:12 PM
Iceland node up and running guys!


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 22, 2014, 02:09:23 PM
Iceland node up and running!

Preliminary stats page:
Code:
http://192.71.218.197:9332/static/

Connect your miner to:

192.71.218.197:9332

The workername is your Bitcoin address.

EXCELLENT ping from Thor Datacenter (Advania).




Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: zvs on June 22, 2014, 02:30:54 PM
I wish people would realize the fallacy of this whole ping time being the most important factor nonsense.

Here's my post copy & pasted from another board, in reply to someone that questioned what I was saying.  Keep in mind that this is for DOGE, the shares are farther apart for Bitcoins, so latency will have less of an impact.

Sure,

Find a p2pool with at least 200 shares, preferably 500+.  See what the orphan rate is, ignore the DOA rate (unless it's incredibly abnormal, like p2pool.org's). 

Pool A has an orphan rate of 15%, pool B has an orphan rate of 10%.  You have 30ms latency to pool A, 200ms latency to pool B (0% packetloss to both).  P2pool attempts to time shares 15s apart, but from my experience it's more than that... so, let's be liberal with it and say 6 shares per minute, plus one block per minute.  That's seven interruptions per minute.

There's a 170ms latency difference, which ends up being 340ms because of the round trip.  Re: Your machine gets work, an interrupt occurs a nanosecond later, your machine keeps working on the old work for ~170ms, gets the new work and then there's another 170ms until that new work can be submitted...  so then 7*340ms, 2380ms, 2.38s of dead time per minute.  That's roughly a 4% DOA differential between Pool A and pool B. 

So then you have, say, expected DOA of 1% on pool A, expected DOA of 5% on pool B.... adding those to the orphan rates, it becomes 16% for pool A and 15% for pool B, which means you'd be better off on pool B.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: Collider on June 22, 2014, 02:45:17 PM
DOA rates (for shares) at Bitcoin p2pools are however atleast 2.5%.

Reducing the ping from 40ms to under 1ms improved my DOA rate from ~5% to 2.5%.

The main thing you should look out for is that your DOA rate is lower than the average P2Pool rate, as you will produce less invalid shares, which will in turn increase your payout per block.

Am I correct in the assumption that only shares "expire" within the 10 second timeframe and found blocks donīt expire that fast?



Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 22, 2014, 07:48:42 PM
I wish people would realize the fallacy of this whole ping time being the most important factor nonsense.


Ping time is not the most important factor, but it does make a difference, as you will acknowledge. Our miners do realise there are other important factors and what we aim to do is ensure that there are nodes in regions of the world where there are may be no nodes, or the nodes available are not as stable; to allow the option for miners to mine on p2pool. The more public nodes across the world, the more options miners will have, in the future and the more stable the p2pool network will be.

We simply aim to have powerful servers which run stable and reliable nodes for p2pool bitcoin mining. It's not about being the only participant, or to monopolise on p2pool nodes; rather, the opposite - if you are able to find a lower rate of rejects somewhere else, then please do not feel that centralcavern nodes are the preferable option for you.

In some regions of the world it can be more costly to run a VPS for single miner use, so we just want to try and help in cases such as this.

 :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: RoadStress on June 22, 2014, 08:29:46 PM
I jumped on BTCGuild luck's train, but I will be back.


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 22, 2014, 08:35:32 PM
No problem RoadStress - milk it!

As noted earlier, by the most excellent murdof; our ICELAND node is now active.

http://is.centralcavern.uk:9332 (http://is.centralcavern.uk:9332)

 ;D

just waiting on the blockchain downloading on our Middle East node - watch this space!


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: raskul on June 22, 2014, 11:23:15 PM
Middle East node will be ready tonight ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Central Cavern P2Pool Node Launched!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 23, 2014, 10:05:59 AM
Middle East p2pool node is now active and accepting miners  ;D

point your miners to;

http://me.centralcavern.uk:9332

username is your bitcoin wallet address
password can be anything.

good luck!


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 23, 2014, 11:57:34 AM
Now working on a US(west) Bitcoin p2pool node - and also altcoin pools.


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: CentralCavern on June 23, 2014, 03:56:18 PM
The Central Cavern Mining Pools
proud to present our

TEKcoin Pool
http://www.centralcavern.uk/img/tek.png
Low 0.5% fees across the board

http://tek.centralcavern.uk (http://tek.centralcavern.uk)

also bitcoin p2pool nodes across the world

Amsterdam (http://eu.centralcavern.uk:9332/static/)
Reykjavik (http://is.centralcavern.uk:9332/static/)
Rosh Haayin (http://me.centralcavern.uk:9332/static/)

see the official TEKcoin thread for more info
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320404.0


www.centralcavern.uk
turn down your pc speakers!


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: RoadStress on June 23, 2014, 04:25:25 PM
IS node

LOST CONTACT WITH BITCOIND for 3.1 minutes! Check that it isn't frozen or dead!



Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 23, 2014, 04:27:11 PM
IS node

LOST CONTACT WITH BITCOIND for 3.1 minutes! Check that it isn't frozen or dead!



restarted bitcoind. this is the 2nd time that this has happened. i'll need to investigate

ADD: i'd advise making the EU node your failover, that way you won't lose any shares if this happens again.


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: Acejam on June 23, 2014, 04:42:17 PM
IS node

LOST CONTACT WITH BITCOIND for 3.1 minutes! Check that it isn't frozen or dead!



restarted bitcoind. this is the 2nd time that this has happened. i'll need to investigate

ADD: i'd advise making the EU node your failover, that way you won't lose any shares if this happens again.


People aren't smart. Failover should always be server-side. :)


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 23, 2014, 04:47:55 PM
well the issue wasn't to do with the server; we are running at nowhere near capacity on that node... i'll ask the boss what he thinks once he's walked the dog and had his meal.


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 23, 2014, 05:38:36 PM
I've contacted the VPS host to request an upgrade to the memory, Iceland node will be restarted in due course once memory is upgraded.


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: Collider on June 23, 2014, 06:01:37 PM
Is the Tekcoin pool a p2pool node?

If yes, where is it located?


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 23, 2014, 06:05:24 PM
Is the Tekcoin pool a p2pool node?

If yes, where is it located?

no it is MPOS on PPLNS so latency isn't an issue


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: Collider on June 23, 2014, 06:08:38 PM
Is the Tekcoin pool a p2pool node?

If yes, where is it located?

no it is MPOS on PPLNS so latency isn't an issue
What is MPOS?


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 23, 2014, 06:09:53 PM
Is the Tekcoin pool a p2pool node?

If yes, where is it located?

no it is MPOS on PPLNS so latency isn't an issue
What is MPOS?

https://github.com/MPOS/php-mpos


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: Collider on June 23, 2014, 06:23:20 PM
Wonīt you get massive variance from such a small TEK pool?


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 23, 2014, 06:26:09 PM
Wonīt you get massive variance from such a small TEK pool?

Currently there are over 4TH/s on a network of 24TH/s - it's not the smallest. We are just pushing to crack that first block and have been in discussion with TEK developer regarding the ability to mine the coin.


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: Collider on June 23, 2014, 06:55:52 PM
If i run the TEK wallet in windows and have downloaded the blockchain manually, how do i make tek load it?


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 23, 2014, 07:00:13 PM
If i run the TEK wallet in windows and have downloaded the blockchain manually, how do i make tek load it?

i'm not quite sure I understand what you are asking when you say

Quote
how do i make tek load it?

perhaps you can clarify the questions please?


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 23, 2014, 07:06:04 PM
TEK - block found!!


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: Collider on June 23, 2014, 07:09:35 PM
If i go to the TEK website, there is an option to download the windows and linux client, aswell as the blockchain.

MY wallet is stuck at synchronizing but hasnīt sincd one single block yet.

Therefore i hoped i could simply download the block history and manually load it into the client (why else would you be able to download it from the download page manually?)


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: thundertoe on June 23, 2014, 07:10:46 PM
If i run the TEK wallet in windows and have downloaded the blockchain manually, how do i make tek load it?

put it in the tekcoin folder in the appdata same place you would put the .conf


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 23, 2014, 07:14:07 PM
If i run the TEK wallet in windows and have downloaded the blockchain manually, how do i make tek load it?

put it in the tekcoin folder in the appdata same place you would put the .conf

ah, now I understand what you meant Collider, sorry.

Thundertoe is the developer of TEKcoin - thanks Thundertoe for looking in - it's appreciated.


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: Collider on June 23, 2014, 07:19:26 PM
I put the tekchain folder into the AppData folder.

It seems to have worked, as it is now syncing the blocks fast.

Thanks for your help!


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 24, 2014, 06:49:23 AM
good to see miners getting on our TEK pool. With BTC difficulty rising fast, we are currently researching which other altcoins to build pools for - if you have any suggestions, please let us know and we'll consider setting up a pool for your suggested altcoins.


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 24, 2014, 08:17:18 AM
Iceland node has now been upgraded and restarted.  :)


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: CentralCavern on June 24, 2014, 09:46:46 AM
added:

SAN FRANCISCO NODE (for West USA)
Code:
us.centralcavern.uk:9332
 
Your username is your bitcoin wallet address
 
password can be anything you like


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: Collider on June 24, 2014, 09:50:05 AM
I really hope PetaMine will start running fully on p2pool by Friday, as it would give a huge boost to p2pool users, as variance should get considerably lower.


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 24, 2014, 09:59:23 AM
I really hope PetaMine will start running fully on p2pool by Friday, as it would give a huge boost to p2pool users, as variance should get considerably lower.
it needs it. hashrate is far too low to make p2pool profitable at the moment - I recognise this and that's why, even though I am maintaining the nodes, i'm not mining on them myself, currently. Looking to the future, it seems the p2pool community are to be working on the p2pool code, so once things have been evened out, I expect miners to come back. there is some discourse with the developer currently and this is why p2pool lost over 2/3rds of it's network hashrate in the last week.

well, anyway; nodes are there, feel free to use them when you wish, and hop off when you feel you can find more profit on another pool or altcoin.

 ;D


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: Collider on June 24, 2014, 10:18:16 AM
This is a common misconception.

Profitability isnīt influenced by pool size, only variance is.

p2pool has long PPLNS rounds though, so every share is counted when paying.

In fact, you can get more out of p2pool than any other pool, when you have a low reject share rate.


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 24, 2014, 10:19:58 AM
This is a common misconception.

Profitability isnīt influenced by pool size, only variance.

p2pool has long PPLNS rounds though, so every share is counted when paying.

In fact, you can get more out of p2pool than any other pool, when you have a low reject share rate.

i see.
well, as central cavern is still in launch phase, we are opening more and more coin pools, so my miners are limited to mine at one pool at a time! I'm currently mining on our TEKcoin pool  ;D


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern P2Pool Nodes - EU - IS - IL
Post by: raskul on June 24, 2014, 10:20:16 AM
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Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern Mining Co BTC in EU - IS - IL - US & Altcoins!
Post by: raskul on June 24, 2014, 11:50:50 AM
Even little rigs can crack blocks on our TEK pool!

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Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern Mining Co BTC in EU - IS - IL - US & Altcoins!
Post by: CentralCavern on June 25, 2014, 07:15:30 PM
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also bitcoin p2pool nodes across the world

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Reykjavik (http://is.centralcavern.uk:9332/static/)
Rosh Haayin (http://me.centralcavern.uk:9332/static/)
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see our thread for more info
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well done!


Title: Re: 0.5% fees - Central Cavern Mining Co BTC in EU - IS - IL - US & Altcoins!
Post by: raskul on June 25, 2014, 08:16:08 PM
building more pools folks, check in regularly!  ;)


Title: Re: 0.5% fee - Pools - Central Cavern Mining Co - Pools
Post by: CentralCavern on June 26, 2014, 09:33:50 PM
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this wallet will hold no other XXXCoin than the pre-mine escrow amount.



Title: Re: 0.5% fee - Pools - Central Cavern Mining Co - Pools
Post by: jedimstr on June 28, 2014, 09:14:42 AM
we will be closing all p2pool bitcoin nodes due to miners lack of interest in p2pool.

wtf, I have like 7TH pointed in your direction.  How long until you close it so I can find another decent EU p2pool node?


Title: Re: 0.5% fee - Pools - Central Cavern Mining Co - Pools
Post by: raskul on June 28, 2014, 09:15:39 AM
we will be closing all p2pool bitcoin nodes due to miners lack of interest in p2pool.

wtf, I have like 7TH pointed in your direction.  How long until you close it so I can find another decent EU p2pool node?

we have temporarily closed all nodes except EU, which will continue.
The Amsterdam node will remain open.


Title: Re: 0.5% fee - Pools - Central Cavern Mining Co - Pools
Post by: raskul on June 30, 2014, 01:36:49 PM
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Low 0.5% fees across the board

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see our thread for more info
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655493.0


www.centralcavern.uk
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Title: Re: 0.5% fee - Pools - Central Cavern Mining Co - Pools
Post by: raskul on July 01, 2014, 09:32:14 AM
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Low 0.5% fees across the board

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This node is located in Amsterdam
please also see our bitcoin p2pool node

Amsterdam (http://eu.centralcavern.uk:9332/static/)


see our thread for more info
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=655493.0


www.centralcavern.uk
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Title: Re: 0.5% fee - Pools - Central Cavern Mining Co - Pools
Post by: raskul on July 01, 2014, 07:36:35 PM
Our TEKCoin, HoboNickels and BottleCaps MPOS pools have been updated with price tickers in the dashboard area!

join us to mine at very low fees!     ;D


Title: Re: 1% fee - Pools - Central Cavern Mining Co - Pools
Post by: raskul on July 08, 2014, 01:38:02 PM
central caverns facebook page updated  ;D please mine your cryptocurrencies with us
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BTC P2Pool (Amsterdam)|http://eu.centralcavern.uk:9332/static/ (http://eu.centralcavern.uk:9332/static/)
VTC P2Pool (Amsterdam)|http://eu.centralcavern.uk:9171 (http://eu.centralcavern.uk:9171)