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 I am just curious because IMO i can't  :-\ ???

AFAIK, the site didn't tell you how the random number is generated, so we can't really tell...

EDIT: Indeed, the site explain in details how the number is generated. You can find it by clicking "PROVABLY FAIR" on top.

thanks. well i think i'll just count on my luck.   :D

Nobody, and I searched this whole forum, reported that they ever rolled 10 000. If someone did win that, they would have screen captured it and posted on the forum.
The question have been asked before.

In my opinion it's just a carrot. The do not say, up to $200 per hour, for nothing. They would have had lots more people joining them, if they said, We give $200 every hour. But NO faucet will survive that. Not even Freebitco.in with his 547,478 registered users.

I must admit, I do still try, because they are a paying faucet. But people have been hitting it hard and hackers too. So I do not see, that they will survive a lot longer.

Just do not play the multiply BTC option.  ::)

Bitcoin Zebra has been running a 10 000 000 satoshi prize giveaway, to celebrate the Soccer world cup, and I saw almost 2000 people trying to win that and also get some extra satoshi's. More faucets should acctually, do this to increase traffic to their sites.

Actually, they mention that they are provably fair if you look carefully for the link on the page where you submit the captcha and roll. A hash is calculated based on client and server secrets and agreed nonces, of which part is taken to yield a 32-bit unsigned integer, which is divided by 429496.7295 and supposedly rounded up.

My best hit is between 9986-9993, but never give me over 9993. They have a list of top winners, looks like the best we can win is between 9994 - 9997

I have rolled at freebitco.in 4 times 9886-9985, human under me 5 times this amount and one time 9986. And it is all within 2 weeks.
I will give a try to feed zebra site. Does they pay out normaly ?

my rolls never exceeds 9885  :(

well i think i'll just try and try.  :D

BTW Thanks for the replies!

Given that the rolling are provably fair, you can hit 10000 in Freebitco.in but it would require a lot of rolls to achieve that.

I don't think it is provably fair...

EDIT: It is indeed provably fair. Thanks ranochigo. :)

Try and change the client seed then roll and verify your bet.

Okay you are right. For some strange reasons, I can't read the big bold "PROVABLY FAIR" on top lol.
I didn't use faucets, but I should have checked the site more carefully before trying to offer any help.

Thanks ranochigo. :)

Haha welcome. :) I still can't find a way to verify the provably fair, I don't really understand the procedure.

you can roll it, i rolled 00000 at another simmilar site. You can try with 0 bets and monitoring software, just keep it recorded. I once hit same number i was beting against at ED.

The chances of you rolling any one number are the same as rolling any other numbers.

If you roll enough times then you will roll a 10000 one time every 10000 rolls, on average.

The site is really just a faucet and is likely not worth your time to try to make bitcoin with it. The difference is that there is a twist of having a gambling part to it so users will be enticed to stay at the site for longer then the 30 seconds it takes to solve a captcha. IMO this is genius on the site operator.

Surprising thing. Yesterday freebitco.in "stole" Satoshi! Was 0.00040000 became 0.00027000
I didn't lose them. On the contrary - I won. Satoshi simply decreased.I'm terrified.
My friend has the same situation.
what is it? theft? fraud?  >:(

I tried for weeks to roll anything decent on that site and never got anything.  As far as I know I never met anyone who rolled 10000 and you KNOW there have been thousands and thousands of rolls.  So it's a little suspicious.  Freebitco.in show me a transaction where you paid .25 or whatever the payout is!

Variance occurs, most people won't want to reveal how much did they win. Also, when in doubt, you can always change the client seed at the provably fair button. This ensures are fairer result to be generated although not guaranteed.

The chance to roll 10000 is too low at just 1 in 20000, and so I think you can expect to never get it yourself before the site dies lol.

Well, I sat at work for days and did it.  I'm quite sure I did it at least 1000 times over months, probably more.  And i jsut never heard of anyone getting the 10000 roll.  I'd think they'd be so excited and say something somewhere about it.

I managed to roll a 9993 today and got 20 cents. Technically you could roll it, but I bet there is a very minimal amount of people actually managing 10k.

According to the stat on the site, there are 1,795,677,733 games played until this moment.
So even at a 1 in 20000 chance, there should be tens of thousands of cases of 10000, though many of them could be rolled for multiplying the account balance.

Agree with you above. Mathematically it should be possible but I can't seem to find a single instance of it occuring.

Theoretically you can, but I've never heard of a single person winning on this forum.

The most I got is the second payout (9886 - 9985), two times! I do hope that I will be getting 10,000 soon. I dont think they will lie to their members.

Maybe they aren't lying but they hung the fruit so high that its not possible for someone to grab. But I will not take out to possibilities that they might be lying... because they have more than half a million user registered and lets say out of those 20% are active that is around 100k and they roll 1million numbers in a day there should be at-least 5-6 users each day who might roll 10,000.. but I never-ever heard anyone rolling that which is quite strange and doesn't sound legit to me.

Yes you can, but we don't know when. Maybe someone outhere did it.

I got a 9936 8)

Rolling more than 9985 seems already impossible to me. But I'll try more :)

You have a 1 in 10,000 chance to hit the jackpot, every time you play. Because of this, you could play over a million times and still not hit it.

You can hit the jackpot, I'm sure, however, it is an insanely low chance that I doubt anyone will soon.

The probability (or chances as you put it) of rolling 10,000 is slightly more difficult then that. 1 / 10,000 is 0.0001%.

You should keep playing, you can win the 4th highest prize...others (including me) have!

Is anyone fro Freebitco.in cruising this Forum and can offer some insight on how many people have rolled the almighty 10,000?

the site claims to be provably fair but i am too lazy to check it out :) so in that case it is possible to hit the 10000 number.
on the other hand the chance of hitting it is so low that it practically is impossible to happen so you can say no. anyways i have never heard of anybody earning a large amount in one roll there.

The largest roll I got there is 9989. Even I have never heard even a single instance of a single user achieving that nearly-impossible roll. Of the 1.8+ billion games played by users, there should be even a single winner right now, and that user would've come to this forum and show that he/she won the highest roll, but so far there is none. If the chances are 1/10000, of the 1.8+billion games, there should be thousands of occurrences of that jackpot.

There are 1.5mil users of Freebitco.in. Take a couple hundred thousand away from that for bots, leaves you with ~1mil. There is no way that all of those 1mil users even know about BitcoinTalk, especially not post here for a big win.

And still the remaining 1mil isn't assured that all are active. Maybe 30% of those still use the site, so that leaves you to 300,000 (I honestly believe that even with 30% of 1mil, not all of those are active.) Also, a user posting that he/she won the 10000 roll on that site is also a probability, but what I'm stressing out in this is out of the 1.8+ billion games played on the dice game, why isn't there a single instance of a user that won the jackpot and posted it here? If the chances are 1/10000, there should be several thousands of people right now who won that roll, and it might even be theoretically impossible that out of those several thousands, there wouldn't be even a single user who knows about bitcointalk.

I never win more than 1000 satoshi on freebitco.in.
I think nobody not rolled 10000 on freebitco.in.
I play on this faucet for fun.

same here, ive only been able to hit the ~10k satoshi rolls when i tried out the faucet, but never higher. ive never heard of anyone ever hitting the ~1 btc roll, or even coming in for the ~.1  roll. wouldnt be surprised if it turned out to be rigged.

Till now, not a single person reach 10,000 roll. I have also tried many times. I think this site is only good who can refer a huge peoples and earn referral comission from them.

i know its possible but it will take alot of time rolls

If you roll 5 times in day, you roll 10000 times in 10000 / (5 * 365) ~ 5,5 years. And it is not even sure you have number 10000 in those 10000 rolls.

Since this was bumped up again by @moneyfornothing. I'd like to add to my previous post that the chances of hitting the top price and any other number is the same. What are the chances that you will hit the lowest number? What about 1337? 5555? 1111? Technically, it should be the same as hitting 10000.

I think its a bit easier, 10000 is special because its 1/20000

The best I got was the third prize. 10000 is for the few selected lucky guys on this world.. lol

Just to add here, I rolled once 10000 but not in free roll, it was in multiply roll and winning amount was too low that I havn't bothered to take the screenshot, but as far as the Theoretically, I can say yes you can roll 10000 if you are really lucky.

Agree, i play since last year ( newbie, don't mind me) and there are like under 5 times that i got 0.00000100 BTC, till now, i never got more 0.00000025 BTC or even 0.00000012. shouldn't really count on luck, i think

for me never happens 10k but i got other numbers and also i got 00000 once and 12345 but never had 10k yet

Like any game of chance, there's a chance of winning but not a very high one.

It's odd that people are peeved because they've 'been trying loads' in the past two weeks and not won - you could roll for two centuries and not win whereas someone else could win on their first roll.

It's luck of the draw.

The game is provably fair so you can calculate yourself the probability to roll 10,000.

The probability to roll 10,000 is 1 in 4,294,967,295 (~0.000000000233%). That's practically impossible.

The way that works is that the maximum integer from the first 8 characters of the hash is 4294967295 and they divide that by 429496.7295, which results in the largest possible number being 10,000. The key here is that they ROUND OFF the result, so if you roll 4,294,967,294 (-1 from 4,294,967,295) you get ~9,999.999998, which is then ROUNDED OFF to 9,999. So that makes the only way to hit 10,000 to roll 4,294,967,295.

They do not hide that from you, it's explained on their page, you just have to do the math yourself.

Hope that clears things up.