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So it is with grate regret to post this and am sure many more will be posting in here too.

I am posting this to provide details of what has gone on over the last few weeks regarding UpDown.BT and his website and also signature campaign.

Profile Link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=318623

Trust rating https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=318623
Many people have also given neg feedback due to many people being scammed.

Last Active 5th June 2014

This was the final payment date for weekly payments on campaign and ended up moving towards monthly payments.


I originally signed up to this campaign over 3 weeks ago now. I originally joined on the 29th May 2014 to be paid 1 week later on the 5Th June.

Outstanding payment
Hero members status Pay per post = 0.0016BTC Total outstanding for 72 posts BTC0.1152 to be paid to
BTC address 1Safe7924PSq2JQTCd9HHZsfjY6a4TVZk that is also in original post of signing up.

I have tried to contact UpDown.BT many times regarding payment. On the 5th he was making selective payments on his campaign and adding only selective people.  For the posts that where veiled their where over 72 posts. I posted on the day UpDown.BT posted after totally off topic and not even related to missing payments or to be confirmed. But instead confirmed a few people much later on posting and signing up and added a few more from people who where behind me. I asked again where payment was and again got ignored and many other people have been ignored too.

I had given till midnight Monday 16th June 2014 to post details and updates of what is going on with regards to bing added to the campaign and to be paid. Again I was ignored and no payment made.

I have now decided to move away form this and I strongly advise no one else join until UpDown.BT has confirmed over 60 people who are yet to be confirmed on this camping.


Joined on 29th May. Did not get verified. Continued to post throughout the week based on weekly payments. Pay day 5th June No payment. Application still not even submitted after 3 week. Extra time of 24 hours given for payment to be sent. No payment received.

Sent 4 Private messages asking to be confirmed within the week I had posted and confirmed details that where asked of.. No response to any of them since submitting application. Also gave details again on topic and no response.

Bad communication.

No email support.
No website email support.
No contact details.

Only way to contact is via this thread and PM that never gets answered or does and says sorry and then still no response for days on end to problems and questions.
No answers to other peoples posts and questions.


Outstanding payment
Hero members status Pay per post = 0.0016BTC Total outstanding for 72 posts BTC0.1152 to be paid to
BTC address 1Safe7924PSq2JQTCd9HHZsfjY6a4TVZk that is also in original post of signing up.

https://blockchain.info/address/1Safe7924PSq2JQTCd9HHZsfjY6a4TVZk You can see no payment of outstanding amount has been paid yet. So payment is still outstanding.

I have also submitted 4 bug reports on games and I am outstanding of 0.1BTC or more that was played details forwarded of bugs on game and was advised will be passed on this is almost 2 weeks ago and no updates or anything if going to be refunded or compensated. I am posting again below and am guessing things are coming towards the end of the week now no response to me and several other people now this is clearly giving indications as to no payment or is not going to continue. Please update UpDown.BT as you have myself and many others to pay outstanding payments on.

I gave 1 full week excluding Weekends because you say you don't work weekends. However I also gave an extinction as optional time to fix problems Starting Monday the 9th June 2014 till midnight Sunday 15th June 2015  for outstanding payment to be sent in full to me for advertising in my signature section for your services.

Link to post detialing missing and noe payments.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg7186848#msg7186848


Proof of starting post
http://puu.sh/9hLPR.png

Proof of signature in sig space

http://puu.sh/9hM4T.png

More details will be posted very shortly.

Unrelated to signature, but related to user.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=578682.msg7243529#msg7243529

Bets above maximum or below minimum are not being sent back. Website / User has yet to make a comment about procedures (time over 6 days).

problem : didn't received payment from his campaign for more than a week as member level
posts : 181 - 138 = 43
for 43 posts as member = 43 * 0.00075 = 0.03225 BTC
enroll post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg6941936#msg6941936
proof :
http://i57.tinypic.com/2ipy6v.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/2iabi9i.jpg

still no response until now

i also write this on service discussion but will post it here also

i waited patiently for him for the past 2 weeks yet he didnt even considered my post he did actually answered my question but he ignores my post application

i joined on his program last may 27

http://i57.tinypic.com/2iiafr6.jpg

i post and patiently waiting for the payout day which happen last may 26 2014 updown didnt confirm my post application but then it is fine with me so i waited for another week hopefully that he will get online and confirm my application together with some people who joined his signature campaign

on june 4 (this is based on what my country time and date) around 10 pm he actually confirm those post application from other members

http://i58.tinypic.com/sorec9.png
http://i59.tinypic.com/dngjlh.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/5v88x4.jpg

i talked to him ask some few questions he did answer that and then i ask for my confirmation he did ask me to give me the link of my application post call me a dumb but i dunno how to link it so i just quoted it to him

http://i58.tinypic.com/whn11j.jpg
http://i62.tinypic.com/etzmn9.jpg

thinking that i may get confirm in the next few hours i went to sleep and visited this site and go directly to his thread only to find out thatn he skipped my payment again and didnt confirm my application to him

i just wanted to resolve this problem sisnce updown is not answering my pm's to him nor some other people who didnt confirm
this is also unfair that he did recognize the other newly joined members but forget the others including me

this is not about just the btc that he owes me and some other people but the trust that we put onto him the day that i joined in his campaign for me this is unfair and i just wanted to clarify the whole thing with him

feel free also to post in this topic
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=642893.0

It has been weeks, and I still haven't received anything?
I sent under the minimum... https://blockchain.info/tx/58bd0f2588cf6fd3211308aeede7f73764b6e0764fed4d671dcd729e16be6b6b

It's such a shady site it's not even funny...

Has anyone received funds as of yet? He hasn't been online since June, 05 apparently.

no one has recieve any payout yet that is why we decide to moved out on his campaign but those who has been confirmed recieve their payout but i think some of them has a problem about getting a wrong amount of btc

Still no payment here also and I highly doubt is going to pay up. Theirs problems on his site and seems not much happening at all still no activity so maybe he will come back on the 5th JULY to update everyone but I  very much doubt this will happen. I think we as a community should help spread the word and inbox people and point them to this thread and make them aware of what is going on and give them the choice to continue giving them free advertising and take the risk of none payment.

Watch out everyone Uptown is non solvent like MTGOX, they have the Mark Kapeles behavior of being lazy and responsible with there company

hi all sorry I am new here.
whether the OP before the campaign to not donate funds to the bitcointalk?

if I think the best safe and everyone who wants to do a promotion with their campaign to bitcointalk must deposit funds to guarantee payment, so that there are no losers in this, and all went well

i doubt if theymos will agree on that
escrow is the best way and safe way to prove that someone is legit they have howzar before but he got banned forever i think

i am pretty sure updown won't online anymore, they just want free advertising from us :(
lol, why they must donate to this forum? ;D
if they donate and run, they won't pay us
did you mean donate is escrow? like XBTec do?

Hmmm looking at the thread it seems he's paid out every other time to most people, coupled with the face he spent 25k on a foundation membership. I think he's legit and you should probably wait until the due date until you start pointing fingers.

i joined with them when they still in weekly payment (now monthly payment)
around 3 weeks and 4 days ago, they neither answer my question nor reply my PM
no explanation at all about our payment
their last online were 2 weeks ago

haha I was going to suggest you join primedice, but you already have.
Stunna is awesome!

I suggest we welcome him as our new overlord as long as the alian invasion does not occur.

He might of paid that to make business look legit however I am writhing to bitcoin foundation to see what's what and if really did pay it. If has put 25k on the table for gold then that's close to 43BTC worth and if hes wagered that in the site and has taken more in on that then its a way to still scam paying out but offering gambling site to attract people in and gain a lot more from it on the gambling site. just on one of the address for games has had over 117 BTC waged on it now if you add that up across all 22 BTC deposits addresses with a min of 100 BTC in deposits that's 2,200 in bets. Now lets say hes taken a take of 100BTC as a low example if UpDown.BT has given 60% of that out in winnings thats 1320 paid out and if kept 40% that 880 BTC so its paid for its self and can easily scam and repeat the process many times. Even giving out 90% of the winnings and keeping 10% hes in a WinWin if a scam or not a scam. And seeing hes not been back indicates could well be more of a scam. I am sending an email to Bitcoin foundation and finding out if the have contact with him to get an answer.

It seemed too good to be true. Primedice remains the best.

it aint over to the fat lady sings FXO and Ebtec are good good campaigns and uptown pays then they just have a communication problem.    in july 5 we will know if they used people for a scam.  Lets wait and find out.

at recent rate? no. PD rate is way behind FXO and XBTec
but because FXO and XBTec close new participants, it seems many users don't have any option (for pay per post campaign) anymore instead choose PD
if updown is active and manage this campaign carefully, i'm sure they are hottest campaign :D

yeah ur right PD is not hot anymore but people like kissing ass, so its life if uptown does make the payments and solve the issues then PD is gonna have a huge problem again like he had with Ritz.

A lot of xbtec fanboys in here lately. :D Stunna is really good at managing his campaign, I've never heard of anybody being mistreated by him. The new campaigns on the other hand are a gamble, updown being a great proof.

Seems theirs a fair few to add in  here for being scammed. Am sure as time goes on and next pay day comes up in a week or two will find out and get updates if UpDown.BT is still around or not. Just a matter of waiting now and seeing what happens but  I have a feeling its going nowhere and will be the place for his campaign even tho I have contacted bitcoin foundation I am yet to have any response from them

Fan boy?  Is that what you calling me?   Then your a PD fan boy, but two things I got paid from xbtec and I get paid way more then you, plus I dont have to wait a month.  so yeah Im a big fan boy now!  oh thats 3 things!!!  opppps

lol, not a fanboy
luckily i found out and joined XBTec campaign after i've "scammed" by updown
and i am happy with them now, weekly payment and higher rate than PD (0.00085 BTC / post vs 0.0006 / post)
with maximum 100 posts / week same with PD, anyone for sure will choose XBTec ;D

Scammers still havent paid out everyone will keep this thread alive, also will go at the bitcoinfoundation and link them here to show that gold members cant be trusted and there membership is garbage

how much is a gold membership ?
why would they give a crap anyways ?
they had members on the board who had stolen 10's of millions from the community.

I can see some members still have their updown sigs. They should remove them or modify them to say updown is scamming.

yeah ur probably right but so they can lose business to there site.  also to let others know that the foundation membership is something for them to make money on not about being a trustworthy member

It costs $25,000 now, but it says "All fees are pegged to the Bitcoin Price Index". https://bitcoinfoundation.org/support/

wtf would this guy pay $25k ?
wtf would anyone pay $25k ?

wtf ??????

anyways is their a way to verify he is actually a gold member, and not just displayed the logo ?

okay wow, so better not participate in that campaign. still looking for a good one, maybe that PrimeDice :)

i saw someone had contacted bitcoin foundation, asking about it
but still no response until now
my friend wild guess : he paid $25K to Bitcoin Foundation to attract as many as possible gambler to their site, and make ROI and profit
and run after it :(

well i guess we will never get paid  :( he refuse to paid some people so why would he wasting his time to listen to our whining he dont give a fuck even if we give him a 100 negative feedback on his account his site reputation is not good anymore and he doesnt care about it so better not to hope i guess

A summary of how updown.bt scams for free advertising:

1. Get a bunch of users to sign up for your signature campaign
2. Confirm that half of them are now enrolled in your signature campaign
3. when the rest start complaining that they didn't get confirmed you confirm a half of them
4. Leave the remaining ones and Bam!! you get a couple of free advertising

Updown.bt still owes me 0.02925

he was recently online and the good thing is he paid me for the post that i made from may to june so i get the 0,089 btc that he owed me try to pm him or post on their official thread i am luck that i found him online and he did quote my problem

i hope he will solve all your problem guys i thought i lose my hope to get that btc

Now he is supposed to be paying the remaining ones, lets see if that happens, the main mistake by updown was to not cap the maximum users allowed, anyway since i saw i dint get the reply "confirmed" by updown and i dint see my name on the list i would not had start posting with the signature.

indeed he must clear all the things and make it right before he exiting this forum or else this is gonna be a huge issue regarding to his site

did OP received payment from him?
he refuse to pay me because he said didn't approved me
i ask the reason why, i meet all his requirement from OP post
it seems he's too lazy to check member enrollment in his thread, and missed some enrollment
or did he only want free advertising? not professional campaign

Just to give you an update here and others I never got a response off him nor did I get any re payments I gave more than enough time proof of missing payments and deposits that where wins and didn't get paid on and he said sorry theirs problems will get it sorted out and respond.

Yet he never did respond to me nor did refund. Am glad in a way it wasn't for much. And after seeing on his main thread others where getting scammed and has yet to re login or come back so just goes to prove is a scammer as never returned to update or provide me with any updates.