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Title: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: dogie on June 20, 2014, 02:02:16 AM
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Contents:
0a) What to Expect (#post_section0a)
0b) What You Need (#post_section0b)
1) Powering (#post_section1)
2) Cooling (#post_section2)
3) Configuration (#post_section3)
4) Troubleshooting (#post_section4)
5) Where to buy (#post_section5)

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0a) What to Expect (top) (#post_contents)
The Yiazo YBF is a Bitfury generation 2 clone designed by c-scape (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=134150) which utilises the known M and H board architecture. Each mining kit includes one M board
and multiple hashing H boards. The boards come snugly packaged in bubble wrap within a cardboard box. Specs per H board are as follows:

Chips14x Bitfury Gen 2
Hashrate~30-38GH
Rated Voltage12V
Rated Current1.6A
Power.Consumption20W

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0b) What You Need (top) (#post_contents)
You will need the following:

  • A network cable (http://goo.gl/hCQilO).
  • A power supply (see next section)

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1) Powering (top) (#post_contents)
YBFs do not come with a power supply, and you will need a typical computer PSU with:

  • 2xPCI-E 6 pin power connectors (only 1 if using 4 or less H boards.
  • 2A on the 12V rail per H board.

Power Supply:
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We also need to tell the PSU to always be on, as there isn't a motherboard to do this. Cut a paper clip into a U and insert it into the green wire and either
black wire to the side of the green wire. Tape it up for safety. The power supply will now be controlled by its switch on the rear socket.

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2) Cooling (top) (#post_contents)
A 120mm fan is required to blow through the H boards, and two when they are packed closely. They can be low RPM and silent, but airflow is required.
Alternatively, one moderate to high (1600+) RPM 120mm fan can be placed on top of the H boards. There are 2x3 pin fan headers on the M board.

120mm Fan:
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3) Configuration (top) (#post_contents)
YBFs contain their own controller and so setup is straight forward.

  • Connect the ethernet cable from the M board to your router.
  • Using a browser, navigate to your router's configuration page to find the IP assigned to the YBF. It will be listed under 'miner-0'.
  • Using a browser, navigate to this IP address..
  • Enter pool information as below, and click "Reset".
  • After a few seconds, press "Reset" to check mining has started.

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Code:
Servers : stratum.antpool.com:3333
User    : username.worker or username_worker - auto creates workers!
Password: anypassword
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Code:
Servers : stratum.btcguild.com:3333
User    : username_worker
Password: anypassword
GHash IO Register! (https://cex.io/signup)
Code:
Servers : us1.ghash.io:3333
User    : username.worker  - auto creates workers!
Password: anypassword

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4) Troubleshooting (top) (#post_contents)
TBD as problems arise.

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5) Where to buy (top) (#post_contents)

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Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: BenTuras on June 20, 2014, 05:10:39 AM
2) Cooling
A 120mm fan is required to blow through the H boards, and two when they are packed closely. They can be low RPM and silent, but airflow is required. Alternatively, one moderate to high (1600+) RPM 120mm fan can be placed on top of the H boards. There are 2x3 pin fan headers on the M board.
I would use a bigger fan, the top row of chips is not cooled enough with 120mm.
I have good experience with this expensive 180mm one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835220048&cm_re=AP182-_-35-220-048-_-Product
And put the whole construction on its side, to prevent wobbling of the boards.


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: Glizlack on June 20, 2014, 05:22:08 AM
Very efficient miner as far as watts. Space on the other hand is going to be fairly large. For a USA buyer the price seems very high. Almost double the rbox again I know it draws about half the power but still....  All in all interesting product that I will keep an eye on and consider adding to my home mining.

Steve


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: dogie on June 20, 2014, 07:06:28 PM
I would use a bigger fan, the top row of chips is not cooled enough with 120mm.
I have good experience with this expensive 180mm one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835220048&cm_re=AP182-_-35-220-048-_-Product
And put the whole construction on its side, to prevent wobbling of the boards.


It requires such little airflow it makes no difference, and you risk damaging the connectors mounting them on their sides.


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: BenTuras on June 20, 2014, 08:04:08 PM
...you risk damaging the connectors mounting them on their sides.
?? I have the original M-board and H-cards running like this for over half a year, no more issues since then.


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: wttbs on June 20, 2014, 09:04:07 PM
...you risk damaging the connectors mounting them on their sides.
?? I have the original M-board and H-cards running like this for over half a year, no more issues since then.


Or you can put something under fan, something which is like 3 to 5 cm high, so the fan covers all the H-Board/chips.

I have a test-setups with 10 H-boards, one of them is put upside down, this is stable, fan in perfect position for cooling.
(sorry for the bad quality picture, old iphone)

http://s21.postimg.org/6588uvh1j/yiazo_ybf_test_setup.jpg


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: wttbs on June 24, 2014, 12:50:35 PM
Updated prizes: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=647102.40

M-board and H-board now 75 euro (a piece)


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: wttbs on July 02, 2014, 10:00:40 AM
These great miners are still available !


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: wttbs on July 04, 2014, 08:21:57 PM
This is a test-setup of our YBF SHA256 (Bitcoin) Miner. 1 YBF-M Bitfury miner mainbord + 5 YBF14S-H Bitfury mining boards. Hashpower 150 up to 190 GH/s at ±116W at 12V input. Fans are Scythe Slip Stream SY1225SL12-series 120mm, 2x 500rpm. Using these fans you have enough cooling for the miningboards and listen how incredible low noise this miner is.

Enjoy the silence: https://vimeo.com/99945192

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Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: drmadison on July 07, 2014, 11:23:37 PM
Pity these are so overpriced... the performance / watt is one of the best I've seen...
Are these chips really this efficient? Or is this design using more chips at much lower voltage to get power usage down? That would explain the price...


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: dogie on July 07, 2014, 11:25:50 PM
Pity these are so overpriced... the performance / watt is one of the best I've seen...
Are these chips really this efficient? Or is this design using more chips at much lower voltage to get power usage down? That would explain the price...

Mixture of both. Bitfury chips have always had exceptional power draw.


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: wttbs on November 06, 2014, 11:23:55 PM
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YBF 90+ GH/s Miner set 1x YBF-M + 3x YBF-H NOW = 70 euro
YBF 150+ GH/s Miner set 1x YBF-M + 5x YBF-H NOW = 110 euro
YBF 300+ GH/s Miner set 1x YBF-M + 10x YBF-H NOW = 210 euro

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Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: Rabinovitch on November 06, 2014, 11:50:43 PM
Very good, but the prices should be even lower for these mining sets to be competitive with modern mining equipment, keeping in mind all inconveniences of your mining sets...


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: wttbs on November 07, 2014, 12:00:02 AM
Very good, but the prices should be even lower for these mining sets to be competitive with modern mining equipment, keeping in mind all inconveniences of your mining sets...

"inconveniences"  ???

It is small / compact
Very power efficient
Very stable 99,5+% efficiency at miningpool (BTCGuild) *
Very low noise
Efficient airflow
Easy to setup

I don't want to all this inconveniences

* screenshot from BTCGuild of one our own miners (currently offline)
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Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: Rabinovitch on November 07, 2014, 12:17:08 AM
Power efficient?.. Approximately 0.625 W/Gh as I see... 0.52 at best, if this 300+ set will hash at 380 Gh/s consuming 200 Wt... Well, may be... Moreover: "With roughly 20w per board, a loaded controller will clock in at 200w to 300w depending on how fast the individual boards are running and what type of fans are connected as well". Let's think that it will consume 300 Wt and hash at 300 Gh/s... 1 Wt per 1 Gh?..  :D  Where are the real test results?..

Let's compare with AntMiner S4. A set of 7 of your 300Gh sets (to achieve 2.1 Th, because where is the guarantee that it will give constant 380 Gh/s?) costs 1470 EUR and does not include PSU(s) and fans. Let's add to this price a shipping cost... It is curious, but looking not so profitable comparing to S4. At best it looks like S4 in terms of profitability, but...


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: wttbs on November 07, 2014, 12:31:10 AM
Power efficient?.. Approximately 1W/Gh as I see...

Let's compare with AntMiner S4. A set of 7 of your 300Gh sets (to achieve 2.1 Th) costs 1470 EUR and does not include PSU(s) and fans. Let's add to this price a shipping cost... It is curious, but looking not so profitable comparing to S4. At best it looks like S4 in terms of profitability, but 1W/Gh...... Too much.

Look at the test from July 4th: 150 up to 190 GHs at 116W = 0.7733 to 0.6105. Avarage that = 0.69W/GH. The nice thing is you can "play" with power efficiency when you have a adjustable powersupply. As long as input is between 11V and 13V the miner is stable (with proper cooling): you can play with powerdraw and hashpower.

And you are right about the S4 and S3 and other miners, they are nice too and I am not saying it is crap of unefficient. I personally also bought, tested and mined with Bitmaintech, KNC, Bitmain, Zeus and other miners, they all work and all have their (dis)advantages but such a stable, efficient and low noise miner as the Yiazo-YBF is I and other who have bought the Yiazo YBF, have never seen and expericiened before.

(sorry about my crappy English sometimes  :P)


Title: Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Yiazo YBF Setup [HD]
Post by: Rabinovitch on November 07, 2014, 12:39:06 AM
Oh, yeah, now I see the test.  ::)

It's OK, my English is not ideal too.  ;D