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Title: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: MightySpoon on June 20, 2014, 05:47:37 PM
So it's a known fact that until trouble began at Mt. Gox in February, CEO Mark Karpeles was residing in a swanky Tokyo apartment building called "La Tour Aobadai" (https://www.google.com/maps/place/T%C5%8Dky%C5%8D-to,+Meguro-ku,+Aobadai,+3+Chome%E2%88%926%E2%88%9228+%E4%BD%8F%E5%8F%8B%E4%B8%8D%E5%8B%95%E7%94%A3%E9%9D%92%E8%91%89%E5%8F%B0%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC/@35.6521067,139.6905611,18z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x6018f4ab305f6a8d:0x8daa208fe348906d). It was listed as his public home address, and he posted some photos from his apartment on Twitter, e.g.

https://i.imgur.com/seujhuo.jpg

(There was actually another nighttime photo of the same view along which he tweeted "View from my new apt~" sometime in 2012, but it seems to have been deleted (even though it was still there literally yesterday!))

I went and recreated the view in Google Maps (https://www.google.com/maps/place/T%C5%8Dky%C5%8D-to,+Meguro-ku,+Aobadai,+3+Chome%E2%88%926%E2%88%9228+%E4%BD%8F%E5%8F%8B%E4%B8%8D%E5%8B%95%E7%94%A3%E9%9D%92%E8%91%89%E5%8F%B0%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC/@35.6526583,139.6902373,169a,35y,140h,60.76t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x6018f4ab305f6a8d:0x8daa208fe348906d). Image for the lazy below.

https://i.imgur.com/iUaZ88K.jpg

The edge of the building you can see in the lower-left corner is the roof of "La Tour Aobadai". Pretty convincing, no?

Karpeles moved out of the apartment shortly before trouble began at Mt. Gox, as evidenced by the protesters who went to pay him a visit during this time (only to find he'd already hightailed his ass out of there).

So then there was the infamous "Tokyo sunset" tweet from a few days ago:

https://i.imgur.com/lctA4Z5.png

Now, turn the Google Maps recreation above 180 degrees... (https://www.google.com/maps/place/T%C5%8Dky%C5%8D-to,+Meguro-ku,+Aobadai,+3+Chome%E2%88%926%E2%88%9228+%E4%BD%8F%E5%8F%8B%E4%B8%8D%E5%8B%95%E7%94%A3%E9%9D%92%E8%91%89%E5%8F%B0%E3%82%BF%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC/@35.6525914,139.6906142,166a,35y,300h,75.74t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x6018f4ab305f6a8d:0x8daa208fe348906d):

https://i.imgur.com/PfBbKII.jpg

Aaaand he's back to living in the same apartment building, except this time he's on the north-west side rather than the south-east side.

Judging from the angle and altitude of the photo, it is almost certain that it was taken from a corner apartment on one of the higher floors, which are also the most expensive. Here's a vacancy for a similar apartment (http://tokyorentapartment.com/rent/properties/apartment/id/58120), on the same corner Karpeles is living. In fact, he may have just taken the photo straight from the shitter, as if symbolically emptying his bowels all over the Mt. Gox creditors :D

https://i.imgur.com/9Li2rHD.jpg

The scenery behind the toilet is identical to the one in his photo. You may also notice that the rent for this place is 1.6 million yen. That's around $16,000 per MONTH.

Now how the fuck is this possible?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: ARGpentem on June 20, 2014, 05:50:28 PM
maybe because he stole all the bitcoins? :P


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: S4VV4S on June 20, 2014, 05:53:13 PM
Maybe he likes to take a crap whit the entire Tokyo looking at him?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: ArticMine on June 20, 2014, 05:58:37 PM
One or more of the creditors need to "pierce the corporate veil" and go after the assets of Tibanne and Karpeles' personal assets in the MTGox bankruptcy.

Edit: Then he will not even be able to afford a capsule here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakagin_Capsule_Tower (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakagin_Capsule_Tower)


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Justin00 on June 20, 2014, 06:10:24 PM
What ever happened here ?
I know the story of how they went bankrupt or whatever.... "lost" bitcoins, but I mean is their pending lawsuits ? criminal action ?
or is the ol' classic bitcoin 'nothing ever happens' going to prevail again. Really hope not. Just gives the next guy that much more incentive to pull the same shit. Or the same guy, either or :(


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: williamj2543 on June 20, 2014, 06:13:53 PM
He is taking the money from Mt. Gox. Does anyone know all the BTC addresses? Check if there is any new deposits/withdrawals.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 20, 2014, 06:14:56 PM
maybe because he stole all the bitcoins? :P

YA THINK?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: ljudotina on June 20, 2014, 06:15:03 PM
I'm pretty much sure, he has enough of "private" BTC that wa snever in those large BTC adresses. If you'r wondering who is selling 1-2k BTc when those drops happe, now you know who  ;D


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: CEG5952 on June 20, 2014, 06:20:10 PM
Have Willy drive up the bubble, then slowly sell thousands and thousands of bitcoins.... live large. Sounds like a pretty good plan to me. Hats off, Mr. Karpeles.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 20, 2014, 06:22:46 PM
One or more of the creditors need to "pierce the corporate veil" and go after the assets of Tibanne and Karpeles' personal assets in the MTGox bankruptcy.

Edit: Then he will not even be able to afford a capsule here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakagin_Capsule_Tower (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakagin_Capsule_Tower)

good thought but might not help that much if he has tons of coins


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: nwfella on June 20, 2014, 06:30:44 PM
Pretty swanky looking place there.  Although I think he's going to need to get a much larger toilet!  Pretty disgusted by the behavior of this guy.  The tweets are bad enough.  My hats off to Andreas for speaking his piece in that CoinDesk article.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 20, 2014, 06:39:54 PM
This Japanese justice system works very well against the violent crimes. But at the same time, it is having almost no effect on the white-collar criminals. Japan is turning to be a perfect refuge to all those financial crooks.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: lynn_402 on June 20, 2014, 06:44:21 PM
This Japanese justice system works very well against the violent crimes. But at the same time, it is having almost no effect on the white-collar criminals. Japan is turning to be a perfect refuge to all those financial crooks.

Not to mention drug crimes. It's one of the country where drugs are the most expensive, because of how severe and efficient they are against them.

I find their sense of priorities truly disturbing.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: devphp on June 20, 2014, 06:46:26 PM
This Japanese justice system works very well against the violent crimes. But at the same time, it is having almost no effect on the white-collar criminals. Japan is turning to be a perfect refuge to all those financial crooks.

To paraphrase, if an exchange operates from Japan, don't trade on it. Which other countries are the same?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Meuh6879 on June 20, 2014, 06:48:03 PM
why, this guy, is not in jail ?
i don't understand the justice ...  ::)


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: HeliKopterBen on June 20, 2014, 06:48:38 PM
Shouldn't he be rotting in jail right now.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: ljudotina on June 20, 2014, 06:50:05 PM
Shouldn't he be rotting in jail right now.

Why? He just stole some virtal money or something like that? Honest fella...


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: devphp on June 20, 2014, 06:52:26 PM
why, this guy, is not in jail ?
i don't understand the justice ...  ::)

But he apologized, didn't he?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: illyiller on June 20, 2014, 06:53:27 PM
Shouldn't he be rotting in jail right now.

It's only magic internet money. He said he was sorry and bowed.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: freedombit on June 21, 2014, 04:38:09 AM
Pretty swanky looking place there.  Although I think he's going to need to get a much larger toilet!  Pretty disgusted by the behavior of this guy.  The tweets are bad enough.  My hats off to Andreas for speaking his piece in that CoinDesk article.

Will you please provide a link?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: saddambitcoin on June 21, 2014, 04:52:00 AM
i think people should give him a break. so exchange failed does that mean he has to live penniless and give up his own money?

it was inevitable someone was going to take down mtgox at some point.

remember the coinlab lawsuit? us gov seizing assets? massive ddos?



Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 21, 2014, 04:55:36 AM
i think people should give him a break. so exchange failed does that mean he has to live penniless and give up his own money?

it was inevitable someone was going to take down mtgox at some point.

remember the coinlab lawsuit? us gov seizing assets? massive ddos?



So you actually believe his story, that there was a "leak in the hot wallet" and they didn't notice
Hundreds of thousands of coins leaking out, month after month after month?



Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on June 21, 2014, 05:00:19 AM
Maybe he likes to take a crap whit the entire Tokyo looking at him?
That was a good one :)

I guess Karpeles can't leave Japan and still doesn't mind spending the Bitcoins he has while there is still an opportunity to.
Still classify him as a scammer just one that cannot get away from his venture.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: fonzie on June 21, 2014, 05:26:55 AM
OP seems to be jealous. Mark Karpeles worked hard for the Bitcoin community and definitely deserves a nice place to live!


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: TrailingComet on June 21, 2014, 05:41:34 AM
Once a douchebag always a douchebag
The lack of accountability and integrity is stunning


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on June 21, 2014, 08:25:58 AM
you are a good detective MightySpoon  :) - if you are correct, thats interesting news.

okay why he can live in such an expensive flat? hmmm maybe because that ass stole millions ??? ?

could this be his next flat?

http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-392140-galleryV9-nlrx.jpg



no sunset there  ;D


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on June 21, 2014, 08:28:51 AM
i think people should give him a break. so exchange failed does that mean he has to live penniless and give up his own money?

it was inevitable someone was going to take down mtgox at some point.

remember the coinlab lawsuit? us gov seizing assets? massive ddos?



I guess this is a troll attempt lol

Mark k should donate some of his personal wealth to mtgox victims, he is in some way responsible.  He acts like he was equal victim as the rest of us, what an asshole.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 21, 2014, 12:43:32 PM
Mark k should donate some of his personal wealth to mtgox victims, he is in some way responsible.  He acts like he was equal victim as the rest of us, what an asshole.

He is 100% responsible for the Mt Gox robbery. None of the other employees had the private keys to the Mt Gox cold wallets, and only Karpeles had them. It was simply not possible to steal coins without his help.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Stery on June 21, 2014, 12:50:01 PM
He stole all those coins to have the pleasure


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bitsmichel on June 21, 2014, 12:55:48 PM
Nice apartment, but given the MtGox bankruptcy I think many people will go after him. I think its plausible that he stole all coins himself.



Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bitcoinforhelp on June 21, 2014, 12:57:09 PM
i would be crazy with rage if i would lost money there
Mark is one of a kind


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: strombert on June 21, 2014, 01:35:10 PM
http://www.mtgoxinvestigation.com/updates.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/mtgoxinsolvency/comments/21hrv8/current_state_of_affairs/




Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: SOAD on June 21, 2014, 01:38:58 PM
I don't see the relevance of this. He's made a lot of money off bitcoin prior to the gox fiasco.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: devphp on June 21, 2014, 02:11:41 PM
I see a lot of symbolism in this - "I sh*t on you".


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: wachtwoord on June 21, 2014, 02:15:08 PM
15k USD rent. I think he's doing just fine for now. With the number of people he pissed off however, he will likely have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: p2pbucks on June 21, 2014, 02:20:27 PM
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9Li2rHD.jpg&t=541&c=bsILwhbLJ8L-wg
it's really interesting , his ass is toward the outside every time he gives shit like what he did to the community  ???



Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bitsmichel on June 21, 2014, 02:25:19 PM
15k USD rent. I think he's doing just fine for now. With the number of people he pissed off however, he will likely have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

For sure, some people have lost more than 800 BTC (around 470.000 $)


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: strombert on June 21, 2014, 02:27:32 PM
What happened at 5th of May ?!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2134
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99583.0
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1zdnop/peter_rs_theory_on_the_collapse_of_mt_gox/


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Meuh6879 on June 21, 2014, 02:31:10 PM
no sunset there  ;D

 :D and no electrical pump to spray water on the ass ... to cleanup the mess  :P (Japan water)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Wireless_toilet_control_panel_w._open_lid.jpg


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: smoothie on June 21, 2014, 02:34:26 PM
Maybe he likes to take a crap whit the entire Tokyo looking at him?

OMFG a toilet where everyone can see you take a shit.  :D :D :D


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: exocytosis on June 21, 2014, 03:51:21 PM
Seeing this, every exchange owner has plenty of incentives to do what Karpeles did. I'm just wondering which large exchange will be the first to pull a Gox. And when it'll happen. Surely by the end of the year.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on June 21, 2014, 04:13:13 PM
Seeing this, every exchange owner has plenty of incentives to do what Karpeles did. I'm just wondering which large exchange will be the first to pull a Gox. And when it'll happen. Surely by the end of the year.

Do we know MK is in the clear at this point though? japan with their 99.9% conviction rate were never going to throw the guy right into jail.  At some point the truth of what happened will be open to public and amateur detectives will be all over it.  Pretty funny MK is tweeting like nothing has happened.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: zeetubes on June 21, 2014, 04:15:39 PM
no sunset there  ;D

 :D and no electrical pump to spray water on the ass ... to cleanup the mess  :P (Japan water)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Wireless_toilet_control_panel_w._open_lid.jpg

Those japanese toilets scare the shit out of me - no pun intended. I was always terrified to touch any of the buttons in case it actually meant "tampon removal."


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: kjlimo on June 21, 2014, 04:16:53 PM
you are a good detective MightySpoon  :) - if you are correct, thats interesting news.

okay why he can live in such an expensive flat? hmmm maybe because that ass stole millions ??? ?

could this be his next flat?

http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-392140-galleryV9-nlrx.jpg



no sunset there  ;D

Yep, just a bunch of full moons!


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: kibblesnbits on June 21, 2014, 04:24:57 PM
Maybe he likes to take a crap whit the entire Tokyo looking at him?
That was a good one :)

I guess Karpeles can't leave Japan and still doesn't mind spending the Bitcoins he has while there is still an opportunity to.
Still classify him as a scammer just one that cannot get away from his venture.

LOL'd at the bathroom design. 

"Yes sir, prospective condo buyer!  And here is the main bathroom, notice the wall-to-wall glass windows where you can show all of Tokyo (and the occasional Godzilla) how you wipe your bum."


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: RepublicSpace on June 21, 2014, 06:06:42 PM
Could it be that he's not at his apartment because he wishes to avoid stalkers?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 21, 2014, 06:34:34 PM
With the number of people he pissed off however, he will likely have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

Lol... 5 guys lost more than BTC10,000 each. Another 90 or so lost BTC1,000 or more each. So we have a potential list of 95 people. God knows how many of them are Mexican mafia, NY Crime Families.etc.  ;D

Imagine what'll happen if Los Zetas are among the people / organizations who lost their money in Gox.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Este Nuno on June 21, 2014, 07:13:56 PM
This Japanese justice system works very well against the violent crimes. But at the same time, it is having almost no effect on the white-collar criminals. Japan is turning to be a perfect refuge to all those financial crooks.

Hmm, that's odd. I would totally expect Japan to have somewhat strict laws on white collar crime. Considering it's a fairly uncorrupt country with a heavy focus on business I would think they would be strongly against that type of crime.

Interesting that it's not like that. I wonder how prevalent white collar crime is if there is little risk and high incentive.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: videos4btc on June 21, 2014, 08:24:28 PM
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9Li2rHD.jpg&t=541&c=bsILwhbLJ8L-wg
it's really interesting , his ass is toward the outside every time he gives shit like what he did to the community  ???



lol so true ^^


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: cryptnutter on June 21, 2014, 08:57:57 PM
Can't wait to read about when someone finally decides to pay a "visit" to his apartment  ;)


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: videos4btc on June 21, 2014, 09:15:50 PM
Can't wait to read about when someone finally decides to pay a "visit" to his apartment  ;)

Maybe he will be flung 115 stories out the window one can only pray ? :)


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Este Nuno on June 21, 2014, 09:30:26 PM
Can't wait to read about when someone finally decides to pay a "visit" to his apartment  ;)

I'm sure an apartment like that as some good security. I doubt he's going to have randoms knocking on his door anytime soon :P


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on June 21, 2014, 09:36:16 PM
He just tweeted, he thinks hes actually given something back to the victims.  IMO he hasnt done anything more than he had to do to keep himself out of prison so far.

https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/480455084984123392


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Ludi on June 21, 2014, 09:39:30 PM
What's he given back exactly? And Who would want to take a dump in that toilet? Seems a bit exhibitionist to me.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Este Nuno on June 21, 2014, 09:44:58 PM
He just tweeted, he thinks hes actually given something back to the victims.  IMO he hasnt done anything more than he had to do to keep himself out of prison so far.

https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/480455084984123392

This guy is a real piece of work. Honestly.

Shows no remorse and doesn't think he's done anything wrong.

It's acting like that makes me think he's involved in the theft.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 21, 2014, 09:47:31 PM


It's acting like that makes me think he's involved in the theft.

How can he not be involved?

Not only is the theft not believable (700k coins went missing
and no one noticed..yeah right)...

But then lawyers "found" 200k coins...in an "old style" wallet.

Yeah, the lawyers found it.....





Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on June 21, 2014, 09:51:36 PM
He just tweeted, he thinks hes actually given something back to the victims.  IMO he hasnt done anything more than he had to do to keep himself out of prison so far.

https://twitter.com/MagicalTux/status/480455084984123392

This guy is a real piece of work. Honestly.

Shows no remorse and doesn't think he's done anything wrong.

It's acting like that makes me think he's involved in the theft.

I know it makes me really f****** angry.   If you make this kinda mistake you shouldnt be living in flash apartments while victims are struggling.

1 way i look at it is his ego is out of control but yeah maybe you are right but why does he even open his mouth if hes involved in the theft?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bitcoin_bagholder on June 21, 2014, 10:35:22 PM
Maybe he likes to take a crap whit the entire Tokyo looking at him?

OMFG a toilet where everyone can see you take a shit.  :D :D :D

One-way mirrored glass. There are actually outdoor public toilets like this in some parts of the world.

They can't see inside but you see everything outside of the shitter.

I think it appeals only to perverts.

http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/lg/mirrored-glass-toilet-are-you-brave-lg.jpg


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: videos4btc on June 21, 2014, 11:39:33 PM
Maybe he likes to take a crap whit the entire Tokyo looking at him?

OMFG a toilet where everyone can see you take a shit.  :D :D :D

One-way mirrored glass. There are actually outdoor public toilets like this in some parts of the world.

They can't see inside but you see everything outside of the shitter.

I think it appeals only to perverts.

http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/lg/mirrored-glass-toilet-are-you-brave-lg.jpg

is that a real toilet, in a real place?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Velkro on June 21, 2014, 11:39:38 PM
public humiliation would be best for him as punishment, he is smiling victims in the face


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 22, 2014, 12:51:53 AM
At least he was intelligent enough to run his scam operation in a country where he can screw all of you and get away with it unlike that idiot Trendon Shavers. If pirate had half a brain he would have taken all the Bitcoins and run to Panama.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: ElectricMucus on June 22, 2014, 01:59:05 AM
This is definitely going into my best of Bitcoin trolling list.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 22, 2014, 07:41:34 AM
At least he was intelligent enough to run his scam operation in a country where he can screw all of you and get away with it unlike that idiot Trendon Shavers. If pirate had half a brain he would have taken all the Bitcoins and run to Panama.


Trendon did kind of get away with it.

He got away with the crime not the money. That fat latte bellied hello kitty loving fucktard Karpeles got away with both.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: fbueller on June 22, 2014, 08:59:40 AM
He is one of the reasons Bitcoin is as big as it is today. Without a doubt.
Transaction malleability is still an issue that has yet to be fully addressed.
There are also likely plenty of legal issues here. US investigations into drug vendors on silk road is huge pressure to keep shut.

I think that a lot of people let themselves down in how they're reacting to Mark. He tweets, suddenly the world is writing articles, tweeting vitroil to him. Its just drama, which the Bitcoin following is more than happy to respond to. Get over it, get over yourselves, move on. Let this guy move on too.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Lethn on June 22, 2014, 09:09:14 AM
..... Wait a minute, why the fuck would you put a toilet in the main area right in front of a window? Are you sure this is a 'luxury' apartment? :P It even looks portable because I can see a cord coming from it, that said I see the usual assortment of granite surfaces and fancy tiles there, how weird.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Este Nuno on June 22, 2014, 09:47:44 AM
At least he was intelligent enough to run his scam operation in a country where he can screw all of you and get away with it unlike that idiot Trendon Shavers. If pirate had half a brain he would have taken all the Bitcoins and run to Panama.


Trendon did kind of get away with it.

He got away with the crime not the money. That fat latte bellied hello kitty loving fucktard Karpeles got away with both.

Yeah, I don't know if you all had seen the recent revelations from the SEC but Trendon actually managed to be a massive failure at being a thief. He should have had control on 200,000 btc after people withdrew 500k from the ponzi, but he only ended up cashing out ~150k usd, Meaning he lost so much day trading and through other means that he only managed to get out 75 cents per bitcoin. Which is laughable really.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: rext on June 22, 2014, 09:56:25 AM
i'm sure that despite all that is happening, bitcoin will have a bright future in days to come.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 22, 2014, 10:56:43 AM
is that a real toilet, in a real place?

Yes. It is a real toilet in a real place.  ;D

The picture was taken in the town of Sulphur Springs, Texas. I don't know whose idea was behind this toilet.  ;D

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/11/all-glass-bathrooms-debut-in-texas-town/


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: strombert on June 22, 2014, 07:50:00 PM
I think it's magic-color glass, so you HIDE YOUR ASS whilst shitting


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: nwfella on June 22, 2014, 08:36:25 PM
You have sunk to a new low with these recent actions Mr. Karpeles.  Didn't think it was possible but you sir never cease to amaze.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: pr9me on June 22, 2014, 09:12:39 PM
Is there some kind of sick symbolism going on here with the pictures he's posted lately on Twitter?

A sunset...
A deserted train station...
A volcano, that has been said could blow at any time...

Or is it that he really is just that detached from reality? Why does he continue to post from that Twitter acct? He must know that he is going to be trolled and harassed for the rest of his life. Or at least until the complete story comes to light, and he is either vindicated, or has big helping of justice served up to his fat ass. Be it lawfully... or otherwise.

Nice detective work OP!


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Nathonas on June 22, 2014, 09:38:35 PM
Mark Karpeles is laughing straight to the bank. And it does look like he will get away with it.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 22, 2014, 11:30:14 PM
At least he was intelligent enough to run his scam operation in a country where he can screw all of you and get away with it unlike that idiot Trendon Shavers. If pirate had half a brain he would have taken all the Bitcoins and run to Panama.


Trendon did kind of get away with it.

He got away with the crime not the money. That fat latte bellied hello kitty loving fucktard Karpeles got away with both.

Yeah, I don't know if you all had seen the recent revelations from the SEC but Trendon actually managed to be a massive failure at being a thief. He should have had control on 200,000 btc after people withdrew 500k from the ponzi, but he only ended up cashing out ~150k usd, Meaning he lost so much day trading and through other means that he only managed to get out 75 cents per bitcoin. Which is laughable really.

Being a poor Texas hillbilly he probably thinks $150k is a fortune. I put twice that as a down on my last house in San Francisco. He's a fool.

Karpeles on the other hand is a professional thief. He has the history of a career criminal and no one noticed. I remember when he used to post on this forum. Everyone wanted to have his baby and was sloppy in love with him. It was easier to get away with robbing a bank than saying anything against MagicalTux.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: leopard2 on June 23, 2014, 12:18:20 AM
With the number of people he pissed off however, he will likely have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

Lol... 5 guys lost more than BTC10,000 each. Another 90 or so lost BTC1,000 or more each. So we have a potential list of 95 people. God knows how many of them are Mexican mafia, NY Crime Families.etc.  ;D

Imagine what'll happen if Los Zetas are among the people / organizations who lost their money in Gox.

He will be put into a barrel full of oil and burned alive, I guess  ;D

An extra large barrel of course.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: smoothie on June 23, 2014, 12:48:55 AM
At least he was intelligent enough to run his scam operation in a country where he can screw all of you and get away with it unlike that idiot Trendon Shavers. If pirate had half a brain he would have taken all the Bitcoins and run to Panama.


Trendon did kind of get away with it.

He got away with the crime not the money. That fat latte bellied hello kitty loving fucktard Karpeles got away with both.

Did you lose any money in mtgox?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bananaControl on June 23, 2014, 12:50:49 AM
Let me get this straight.   Internet bounty hunters go after people for as little as $20K being scammed.  Heck even Loan Sharks will chop off your foot over $500.    but. . .  hear me out. . . this Karpeles stole hundreds of millions, he's back at his old condo tower and he spends his entire day at Starbucks drinking Frappucinos and he's white & obese (whereas most people in Japan are skinny and Asian), Karpeles stands out in a crowd and nobody's touching him. Am I missing something here?

You forgot that he's apparently also having a good time at the brothel once in a while.

Quote
Saw him coming out of a soapland the other day. I was on my way somewhere so didn't have time to speak to him. He didn't seem to have a care in the world.

Soapland is a brothel.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26g46e/the_willy_report_proof_of_massive_fraudulent/chqwhcv (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26g46e/the_willy_report_proof_of_massive_fraudulent/chqwhcv)


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 23, 2014, 12:56:23 AM
At least he was intelligent enough to run his scam operation in a country where he can screw all of you and get away with it unlike that idiot Trendon Shavers. If pirate had half a brain he would have taken all the Bitcoins and run to Panama.


Trendon did kind of get away with it.

He got away with the crime not the money. That fat latte bellied hello kitty loving fucktard Karpeles got away with both.

Did you lose any money in mtgox?

Yep, I did.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bananaControl on June 23, 2014, 01:02:37 AM
At least he was intelligent enough to run his scam operation in a country where he can screw all of you and get away with it unlike that idiot Trendon Shavers. If pirate had half a brain he would have taken all the Bitcoins and run to Panama.


Trendon did kind of get away with it.

He got away with the crime not the money. That fat latte bellied hello kitty loving fucktard Karpeles got away with both.

Did you lose any money in mtgox?

Yep, I did.

Wow, man. I feel really sorry for you. If I lost my current bitcoin holding to someone like him and afterwards could see him just enjoying life and tweeting about sunsets like he didn't give a fuck or had a care in life, I really don't know what I would do.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bigasic on June 23, 2014, 01:11:18 AM
Look at what pirate@40 did.. Hes not in jail. What Karpeles did was terrible. Im  lucky that I had less than a coin in my account. But hes going to hide behind corporations. Its unfortunate, but we can kiss our coins goodbye and probably wont see anything done to him. Guys like MK are smart, he knew the shit was hitting the fan when the us govt seized the 5million from his us bank accounts.. That should have been everyones clue that they were in trouble.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on June 23, 2014, 01:13:18 AM
why, this guy, is not in jail ?
i don't understand the justice ...  ::)

I was expecting him to be arrested by now. There does not appear to be justice in this case.
Has anyone from here actually contacted the Japanese police to report his crimes?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 23, 2014, 01:29:42 AM
why, this guy, is not in jail ?
i don't understand the justice ...  ::)

I was expecting him to be arrested by now. There does not appear to be justice in this case.
Has anyone from here actually contacted the Japanese police to report his crimes?

I don't believe he has been formally charged with any crime.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: smoothie on June 23, 2014, 01:34:07 AM
Look at what pirate@40 did.. Hes not in jail. What Karpeles did was terrible. Im  lucky that I had less than a coin in my account. But hes going to hide behind corporations. Its unfortunate, but we can kiss our coins goodbye and probably wont see anything done to him. Guys like MK are smart, he knew the shit was hitting the fan when the us govt seized the 5million from his us bank accounts.. That should have been everyones clue that they were in trouble.

Remember all of the lies that his "support" team spewed about Transaction M. and delay in withdrawals due to that?

lol

So full of shit. Not 2 weeks later they ended up running and hiding then the word came out they had "lost" a fuckton of bitcoins.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bigasic on June 23, 2014, 01:46:47 AM
Look at what pirate@40 did.. Hes not in jail. What Karpeles did was terrible. Im  lucky that I had less than a coin in my account. But hes going to hide behind corporations. Its unfortunate, but we can kiss our coins goodbye and probably wont see anything done to him. Guys like MK are smart, he knew the shit was hitting the fan when the us govt seized the 5million from his us bank accounts.. That should have been everyones clue that they were in trouble.

Remember all of the lies that his "support" team spewed about Transaction M. and delay in withdrawals due to that?

lol

So full of shit. Not 2 weeks later they ended up running and hiding then the word came out they had "lost" a fuckton of bitcoins.

Yes, I do.. I was VERY lucky.. They  had turned off the btc withdrawal function and I still had like 150-200 coins in one account that I had forgotten about (well, it was in cash so I had to buy coins at an inflated price), I tried for weeks to withdraw them with no luck.. Then one day I gave it a shot... walla, I got them back... I consider myself very lucky..


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 23, 2014, 01:48:06 AM
At least he was intelligent enough to run his scam operation in a country where he can screw all of you and get away with it unlike that idiot Trendon Shavers. If pirate had half a brain he would have taken all the Bitcoins and run to Panama.


Trendon did kind of get away with it.

He got away with the crime not the money. That fat latte bellied hello kitty loving fucktard Karpeles got away with both.

Did you lose any money in mtgox?

Yep, I did.

Wow, man. I feel really sorry for you. If I lost my current bitcoin holding to someone like him and afterwards could see him just enjoying life and tweeting about sunsets like he didn't give a fuck or had a care in life, I really don't know what I would do.

I guess it's not really that big a deal. I only lost about 120 coins at Gox. Could have been much worse but a trusted friend warned me to take most of it out a couple of months before Gox lost their bank account. I wanted to leave a little in there to trade with. Although, it would be nice if someone set him on fire while slowly chopping off his fingers one at a time.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: wachtwoord on June 23, 2014, 01:50:06 AM
At least he was intelligent enough to run his scam operation in a country where he can screw all of you and get away with it unlike that idiot Trendon Shavers. If pirate had half a brain he would have taken all the Bitcoins and run to Panama.


Trendon did kind of get away with it.

He got away with the crime not the money. That fat latte bellied hello kitty loving fucktard Karpeles got away with both.

Did you lose any money in mtgox?

Yep, I did.

Wow, man. I feel really sorry for you. If I lost my current bitcoin holding to someone like him and afterwards could see him just enjoying life and tweeting about sunsets like he didn't give a fuck or had a care in life, I really don't know what I would do.

I guess it's not really that big a deal. I only lost about 120 coins at Gox. Could have been much worse but a trusted friend warned me to take most of it out a couple of months before Gox lost their bank account. I wanted to leave a little in there to trade with. Although, it would be nice if someone set him on fire while slowly chopping off his fingers one at a time.

Only 120 BTC? That's $72k at today's exchange rate and next year it will hurt much more.

Did you buy your trusted friend a beer yet? If not, do that ASAP ;)


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 23, 2014, 01:57:29 AM
At least he was intelligent enough to run his scam operation in a country where he can screw all of you and get away with it unlike that idiot Trendon Shavers. If pirate had half a brain he would have taken all the Bitcoins and run to Panama.


Trendon did kind of get away with it.

He got away with the crime not the money. That fat latte bellied hello kitty loving fucktard Karpeles got away with both.

Did you lose any money in mtgox?

Yep, I did.

Wow, man. I feel really sorry for you. If I lost my current bitcoin holding to someone like him and afterwards could see him just enjoying life and tweeting about sunsets like he didn't give a fuck or had a care in life, I really don't know what I would do.

I guess it's not really that big a deal. I only lost about 120 coins at Gox. Could have been much worse but a trusted friend warned me to take most of it out a couple of months before Gox lost their bank account. I wanted to leave a little in there to trade with. Although, it would be nice if someone set him on fire while slowly chopping off his fingers one at a time.

Only 120 BTC? That's $72k at today's exchange rate and next year it will hurt much more.

Did you buy your trusted friend a beer yet? If not, do that ASAP ;)

Dude, at one point I had over 1800 btc at Gox and yeah, I've thanked him many times and bought him many beers since. In fact, just a few weeks ago we had drinks at Elbo Room in the Valencia corridor on my dime.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 23, 2014, 02:05:00 AM
I told my friend get the heck out of gox.... And he saved 30 coins just 2 days before SHTF.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on June 23, 2014, 03:02:05 AM
I had almost 100BTC in Gox! .................in 2011.  :D


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 23, 2014, 03:05:52 AM
I had almost 100BTC in Gox! .................in 2011.  :D

I wish I knew of btc in 2011


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: TaunSew on June 23, 2014, 03:09:12 AM
I don't understand how we have bounty hunters who track down people over a few thousand. .  yet Mark Karpeles, who supposedly has $300+ million worth in private keys, doesn't seem to be bothered by anyone. .

especially when Karpeles' location is known, he hangs out at Starbucks and he's in Japan (fat white guys stick out).

You would think every Yakuza, Korea and Russian gangster in Japan would be making a beeline for Karpeles and trying to get money out of him.  Heck the North Koreans have kidnapped people from mainland Japan.  North Korean elites could buy some new toys (Tesla automobiles for the elites) if they shove Karpeles on a boat to Pyongang.




Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 23, 2014, 03:10:22 AM
I don't understand how we have bounty hunters who track down people over a few thousand. .  yet Mark Karpeles, who supposedly has $300+ million worth in private keys, doesn't seem to be bothered by anyone. .

especially when Karpeles' location is known, he hangs out at Starbucks and he's in Japan (fat white guys stick out).

You would think every Yakuza, Korea and Russian gangster in Japan would be making a beeline for Karpeles and trying to get money out of him.  Heck the North Koreans have kidnapped people from mainland Japan on the boat - they could buy themselves some new toys (Tesla automobiles for the elites) if they shove Karpeles on a boat to Pyongang.





Very possible he paid off certain aggressors


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: zeetubes on June 23, 2014, 04:16:10 AM
Scary thought, but if btc significantly increases in value, that corrupt fat pig could end up literally being one of the richest people in the world.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: rext on June 23, 2014, 04:19:43 AM
Scary thought, but if btc significantly increases in value, that corrupt fat pig could end up literally being one of the richest people in the world.
Imagine if it hits 100000 BTC/USD, then it will be like, "Hi Bill, awesome this is cool, I am around the same rank as you now :)"


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: TaunSew on June 23, 2014, 04:49:20 AM
$1 trillion Bitcoin capitalization = $50K Bitcoin.

That would make Karpeles #13 most wealthiest ($35 billion) in the world but in liquidity he would be wealthier than Carlos Slim, Bill Gates, et al.  Have to realize the wealthiest people on that list are only asset rich.  Remember that someone like Donald Trump almost declared personal bankruptcy several times as he didn't have any liquidity (despite billions in assets).

 Bitcoin, being quasi-money, would be far more liquid and Karpeles would be immensely indescribably rich. 


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: BitcoinBud44 on June 23, 2014, 04:54:13 AM
Lost about 70BTC at Gox.  It stung real bad at first but the pain is easing over time.  I will say this though, since i lost that (about 90% of my holdings at the time) it pushed me away from the BTC scene.  I was an early adopter but wasnt really big into it to begin with TBH, once the value increased so did my interest.  Then that **** went down and I lost a lot of interest (out of bitterness, I think).

I hope Mark burns in hell for what he did.  I lost my down payment on my house.   :(


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 23, 2014, 05:21:01 AM
Lost about 70BTC at Gox.  It stung real bad at first but the pain is easing over time.  I will say this though, since i lost that (about 90% of my holdings at the time) it pushed me away from the BTC scene.  I was an early adopter but wasnt really big into it to begin with TBH, once the value increased so did my interest.  Then that **** went down and I lost a lot of interest (out of bitterness, I think).

I hope Mark burns in hell for what he did.  I lost my down payment on my house.   :(

Sad to hear this. But not everything is lost. You will get somewhere around 20% to 25% of the holdings refunded back to you, once the bankruptcy proceedings are completed. BTC14 to BTC18 is no way a small amount. But you should regularly keep in touch with the authorities, to make sure that the coins are properly refunded back to you.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: ElectricMucus on June 23, 2014, 04:36:52 PM
Mark is now the official /r/buttcoin mascot!

https://i.imgur.com/nUPZvnJ.jpg


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: rext on June 23, 2014, 06:14:57 PM
Lost about 70BTC at Gox.  It stung real bad at first but the pain is easing over time.  I will say this though, since i lost that (about 90% of my holdings at the time) it pushed me away from the BTC scene.  I was an early adopter but wasnt really big into it to begin with TBH, once the value increased so did my interest.  Then that **** went down and I lost a lot of interest (out of bitterness, I think).

I hope Mark burns in hell for what he did.  I lost my down payment on my house.   :(
Sorry to hear that man. Losing a couple of hundreds or even a couple of thousands, i could deal with that, but man losing my down payment for my house is like Woah..., taking it to the next lvl.

Man I seriously hope he gives you back your coins as well for the others who were affected as well.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: bitcoincal on June 23, 2014, 08:27:02 PM
I wonder what his next "business" venture will be  ::)


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on June 23, 2014, 08:44:13 PM
I was wondering how he could (legally) afford hotels and a bodyguard, so to see him in such an expensive place is outrageous.
Mark works for the USA Feds == One possible twist in the story.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 23, 2014, 08:54:29 PM
I was wondering how he could (legally) afford hotels and a bodyguard, so to see him in such an expensive place is outrageous.
Mark works for the USA Feds == One possible twist in the story.

simple... sell a few of the hundreds of thousands of bitcoins you have.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: InwardContour on June 24, 2014, 02:23:42 AM
This is truly disgusting.

There is no way he should be able to afford such a lavish lifestyle when he lost so much of other people's money. It isn't like he used his expertise to try to protect it. At the very least his incompetence caused his customers to lose their bitcoin, assuming that he did not steal it. 


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on June 24, 2014, 03:41:48 AM
This is truly disgusting.
....

An unprotected person like him would be dead by now, so I am seriously claiming to believe he works for a Gov't agency.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: rext on June 24, 2014, 03:49:43 AM
Wonder how many people got screwed over this.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on June 24, 2014, 03:56:36 AM
Wonder how many people got screwed over this.

Not quite sure myself but there is a suit going so it probably measures in a few thousand users at least.
With significant balances.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: ajareselde on June 24, 2014, 11:23:49 AM
I wonder what his next "business" venture will be  ::)

yeah , sure would avoid it at all costs.
instead of being in prison, hes living like a rock star.
we want to see some sepuki on him.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: solomania9 on June 24, 2014, 06:50:12 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if he starts making lavish posts like this one on Bitcoin Megaphone:

http://bitcoinmegaphone.com/1Kqt3WNKaaVXsdWBZPgzuF4mP95uXjnRRe/


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Impros88 on June 25, 2014, 12:02:26 AM
now that we know where the pig is, we could go to carry him our greetings... I lost a lot of money due to him and I would like to meet him. in person. I lost my j9b and invested every thing in bitcoin hoping to make some money... now I lost almost all due to this fucking pig... I want to kill him slowly and painfully, like in a oven, the good place where fat pigs should be.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Harley997 on June 25, 2014, 02:27:56 AM
This is truly disgusting.
....

An unprotected person like him would be dead by now, so I am seriously claiming to believe he works for a Gov't agency.
I doubt that many people are willing to give up their freedom for potentially the rest of their life just because he may have stolen their money.

I am surprised that he is able to spend this kind of money without attracting attention from the police when so much has gone missing from his business


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on June 25, 2014, 02:33:37 AM
This is truly disgusting.
....

An unprotected person like him would be dead by now, so I am seriously claiming to believe he works for a Gov't agency.
I doubt that many people are willing to give up their freedom for potentially the rest of their life just because he may have stolen their money.

I am surprised that he is able to spend this kind of money without attracting attention from the police when so much has gone missing from his business

...without attracting attention from the police...
We have no way to know for certain, but it is possible that someone influential is telling the police to avoid investigation of Mr. Karpeles.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: pungopete468 on June 25, 2014, 03:45:49 AM
I don't see how he'll be able to justify such an exorbitant amount of rent as being a "necessary expense" in his bankruptcy proceedings...


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on June 25, 2014, 03:50:39 AM
I don't see how he'll be able to justify such an exorbitant amount of rent as being a "necessary expense" in his bankruptcy proceedings...

It is not a personal bankruptcy, just the company.
Mark has all his "legit earnings" from those long days and nights as CEO.*
*Except for what the USA Gov't grabbed from his American-based personal account over a year ago.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: rext on June 25, 2014, 04:38:35 AM
He probably figured, if i am going to jail, i might as well live the high life now.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: nwfella on June 25, 2014, 04:58:24 AM
I don't see how he'll be able to justify such an exorbitant amount of rent as being a "necessary expense" in his bankruptcy proceedings...
Of course he will be able to justify it as a "necessary expense".  Have you seen pictures of that toilet?  Have you seen his fat ass?  Only luxury hotel's can accommodate such a substantial derrier!


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: pungopete468 on June 25, 2014, 06:04:03 AM
I don't see how he'll be able to justify such an exorbitant amount of rent as being a "necessary expense" in his bankruptcy proceedings...

It is not a personal bankruptcy, just the company.
Mark has all his "legit earnings" from those long days and nights as CEO.*
*Except for what the USA Gov't grabbed from his American-based personal account over a year ago.

You can't buy or start a business without taking on personal guarantees unless you use self-financing and pay everything 100% in full. If he isn't filing bankruptcy individually then he must be planning a business restructure or repayment plan... Either way, his "legit earnings" are no different from any of the other company assets under control of the bankruptcy court...


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: zeetubes on June 25, 2014, 03:48:43 PM
Coming soon: many pictures from many different angles of Karpeles taking a dump

Given how full of shit he is, that could be a lot of photos.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: DooMAD on June 25, 2014, 07:29:33 PM
Wonder how many people got screwed over this.

What I wonder is how many people are in the same position now where it could happen again.  Personally, I try not to leave more that $10 USD worth of Bitcoin on exchanges at any given time.  But I often wonder how many people, even after the gox fiasco and all this anger over Karpeles living the high life, how many still keep hundreds or even thousands on an exchange instead of in cold storage where it should be.  Satoshi envisaged Bitcoin as peer to peer money, so the fact that so many people rely on exchanges means we're generally doing this all wrong.

I'm not making any excuses for they guy, but as disgusting a creature as Karpeles is, it never would have happened if people were using Bitcoin as intended.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 25, 2014, 07:44:40 PM
Wonder how many people got screwed over this.

What I wonder is how many people are in the same position now where it could happen again.  Personally, I try not to leave more that $10 USD worth of Bitcoin on exchanges at any given time.  But I often wonder how many people, even after the gox fiasco and all this anger over Karpeles living the high life, how many still keep hundreds or even thousands on an exchange instead of in cold storage where it should be.  Satoshi envisaged Bitcoin as peer to peer money, so the fact that so many people rely on exchanges means we're generally doing this all wrong.

I'm not making any excuses for they guy, but as disgusting a creature as Karpeles is, it never would have happened if people were using Bitcoin as intended.

You're forgetting that Bitcoins best use is as a speculative financial instrument. The big Bitcoin economy would be so very much smaller without day traders. It's impossible to buy and sell at an exchange without having something in your account. I have had thousands at an exchange before. I transfer it out only when I know I'm not trading for a while.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: DooMAD on June 25, 2014, 08:45:32 PM
Wonder how many people got screwed over this.

What I wonder is how many people are in the same position now where it could happen again.  Personally, I try not to leave more that $10 USD worth of Bitcoin on exchanges at any given time.  But I often wonder how many people, even after the gox fiasco and all this anger over Karpeles living the high life, how many still keep hundreds or even thousands on an exchange instead of in cold storage where it should be.  Satoshi envisaged Bitcoin as peer to peer money, so the fact that so many people rely on exchanges means we're generally doing this all wrong.

I'm not making any excuses for they guy, but as disgusting a creature as Karpeles is, it never would have happened if people were using Bitcoin as intended.

You're forgetting that Bitcoins best use is as a speculative financial instrument. The big Bitcoin economy would be so very much smaller without day traders. It's impossible to buy and sell at an exchange without having something in your account. I have had thousands at an exchange before. I transfer it out only when I know I'm not trading for a while.

When you say "best use", perhaps what you actually mean is "most profitable use" (or at least "best use for you"  :P ).  Whether speculation is all good news for Bitcoin or not is probably open for debate, heh.  I'd say there's a balance to be struck there and maybe it's not quite in proportion yet.  Perhaps it would mean a smaller economy with less speculators, but by the same token it might also become less volatile and the headlines wouldn't be quite as sensationalist.  We might even see more use as a currency.  Swings and roundabouts I guess.  Many would argue that its best use is to take power away from banks and governments and as a test case for debt-free money creation, as opposed to fiat, where nearly all the money in the economy is comprised of a debt that isn't possible to pay back without removing nearly all the money from the economy.   But then again, Bitcoin is proving to be all things to all people.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 25, 2014, 09:12:08 PM
Wonder how many people got screwed over this.

What I wonder is how many people are in the same position now where it could happen again.  Personally, I try not to leave more that $10 USD worth of Bitcoin on exchanges at any given time.  But I often wonder how many people, even after the gox fiasco and all this anger over Karpeles living the high life, how many still keep hundreds or even thousands on an exchange instead of in cold storage where it should be.  Satoshi envisaged Bitcoin as peer to peer money, so the fact that so many people rely on exchanges means we're generally doing this all wrong.

I'm not making any excuses for they guy, but as disgusting a creature as Karpeles is, it never would have happened if people were using Bitcoin as intended.

You're forgetting that Bitcoins best use is as a speculative financial instrument. The big Bitcoin economy would be so very much smaller without day traders. It's impossible to buy and sell at an exchange without having something in your account. I have had thousands at an exchange before. I transfer it out only when I know I'm not trading for a while.

When you say "best use", perhaps what you actually mean is "most profitable use" (or at least "best use for you"  :P ).  Whether speculation is all good news for Bitcoin or not is probably open for debate, heh.  I'd say there's a balance to be struck there and maybe it's not quite in proportion yet.  Perhaps it would mean a smaller economy with less speculators, but by the same token it might also become less volatile and the headlines wouldn't be quite as sensationalist.  We might even see more use as a currency.  Swings and roundabouts I guess.  Many would argue that its best use is to take power away from banks and governments and as a test case for debt-free money creation, as opposed to fiat, where nearly all the money in the economy is comprised of a debt that isn't possible to pay back without removing nearly all the money from the economy.   But then again, Bitcoin is proving to be all things to all people.

I think of all possible uses speculation is probably the best and not just the most profitable. Making everyday purchases with Bitcoin isn't really quite "there" yet. Even exchanging fiat for Bitcoin to buy something you could have just bought with fiat leaves something to be desired. I doubt (but I don't know for a fact) that buying drugs, guns, illegal porn and other niceties with Bitcoin is a very big part of the market. Although, that at least makes sense as far as the hassle of chasing down Bitcoins to make a purchase. Micro payments online? Meh, how many times have you ever wanted to give someone money online because you think they're swell? Besides, how big a market could their be in micro payments anyway.

Bitcoin on the other hand is perfect for speculation. Even the daily potential is better than any other instrument that I can think of and the long term is phenomenal. I personally have made better than 100% increase on my investment in a single day. That beats saving a few bucks to wire money around the world.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: TheFootMan on June 25, 2014, 09:51:19 PM
Well, as everyone knows his address, I wonder when the first big bitcoin heist will take place... ...oh wait!


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Harley997 on June 26, 2014, 12:02:20 AM
Wonder how many people got screwed over this.

What I wonder is how many people are in the same position now where it could happen again.  Personally, I try not to leave more that $10 USD worth of Bitcoin on exchanges at any given time.  But I often wonder how many people, even after the gox fiasco and all this anger over Karpeles living the high life, how many still keep hundreds or even thousands on an exchange instead of in cold storage where it should be.  Satoshi envisaged Bitcoin as peer to peer money, so the fact that so many people rely on exchanges means we're generally doing this all wrong.

I'm not making any excuses for they guy, but as disgusting a creature as Karpeles is, it never would have happened if people were using Bitcoin as intended.

You're forgetting that Bitcoins best use is as a speculative financial instrument. The big Bitcoin economy would be so very much smaller without day traders. It's impossible to buy and sell at an exchange without having something in your account. I have had thousands at an exchange before. I transfer it out only when I know I'm not trading for a while.
there are a number of ways you can speculate with bitcoin without entrusting your funds to an exchange for long periods.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 26, 2014, 12:07:24 AM
Wonder how many people got screwed over this.

What I wonder is how many people are in the same position now where it could happen again.  Personally, I try not to leave more that $10 USD worth of Bitcoin on exchanges at any given time.  But I often wonder how many people, even after the gox fiasco and all this anger over Karpeles living the high life, how many still keep hundreds or even thousands on an exchange instead of in cold storage where it should be.  Satoshi envisaged Bitcoin as peer to peer money, so the fact that so many people rely on exchanges means we're generally doing this all wrong.

I'm not making any excuses for they guy, but as disgusting a creature as Karpeles is, it never would have happened if people were using Bitcoin as intended.

You're forgetting that Bitcoins best use is as a speculative financial instrument. The big Bitcoin economy would be so very much smaller without day traders. It's impossible to buy and sell at an exchange without having something in your account. I have had thousands at an exchange before. I transfer it out only when I know I'm not trading for a while.
there are a number of ways you can speculate with bitcoin without entrusting your funds to an exchange for long periods.

Even short periods are risky if your all in during a shutdown like with Gox.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: TheFootMan on June 26, 2014, 12:11:04 AM
When thinking of it. 16k usd pr. month for a flat. how long can he stay there pr. million usd?

1 million gives you 62 months which is 5 years.

Not sure of his age, but let's say he's 30 now and that he will die of a heart attack because of an unhealthy lifestyle at 58.

That means he needs to pay the rent for 28 more years which brings us to the ballpark of 5.4 million dollars. If he took 400 million, it seems like he can afford it, and even have some more to play with. What about some luxury travels, and some new cars? Perhaps he could join up with Kim Jong-un and Dennis Rodman? He could then release NKoin, and supervised by the milliitary of NK, it's pretty sure MK dicipline would improve, he might even benefit from daily exercise. And perhaps he could even buy a yacht and denouce all citizenships, and become a sailor of the high seas?

Watch as the story untolds, very soon!





Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: TheVoodooDevil on June 26, 2014, 08:58:20 AM
his life got goxxed


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on June 26, 2014, 10:38:13 AM
When thinking of it. 16k usd pr. month for a flat. how long can he stay there pr. million usd?

1 million gives you 62 months which is 5 years.

Not sure of his age, but let's say he's 30 now and that he will die of a heart attack because of an unhealthy lifestyle at 58.

That means he needs to pay the rent for 28 more years which brings us to the ballpark of 5.4 million dollars. If he took 400 million, it seems like he can afford it, and even have some more to play with. What about some luxury travels, and some new cars? Perhaps he could join up with Kim Jong-un and Dennis Rodman? He could then release NKoin, and supervised by the milliitary of NK, it's pretty sure MK dicipline would improve, he might even benefit from daily exercise. And perhaps he could even buy a yacht and denouce all citizenships, and become a sailor of the high seas?

Watch as the story untolds, very soon!


I'm sure if Karpeles signed a movie deal and licensing agreement
Or a couple books about his time with Mtgox and the earliest days of Bitcoin someone would buy it and his royalties might add up to pay for it
Of course with raging shareholders/users grabbing all of the copies they can get and burning them with fire ^_^
*Shareholders meaning those who got left holding the goxcoins and now want reparations.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Snorek on June 26, 2014, 03:12:42 PM
Oh my god. Look at that bathroom, exhibitionist's heaven :D


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 26, 2014, 04:48:29 PM
Oh my god. Look at that bathroom, exhibitionist's heaven :D

maybe it could have loudspeakers attached to the outside of the building
so you can blast the noises of you taking a dump...lol sorry just thought
it was a funny thought.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: TheFootMan on June 26, 2014, 10:36:14 PM
Oh my god. Look at that bathroom, exhibitionist's heaven :D

Are you still an exhibitionist if you show yourself but nobody sees you?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: ThomasCrowne on June 27, 2014, 12:01:34 AM
Oh my god. Look at that bathroom, exhibitionist's heaven :D
Yup...fat heads way of proverbially telling the whole world to kiss his fat ass everytime he takes a dump!!


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Mikez on June 27, 2014, 12:07:14 AM
Hats off to you dear Sir, your investigative skills left me in awe. :).


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Harley997 on June 27, 2014, 12:28:24 AM
Wonder how many people got screwed over this.

What I wonder is how many people are in the same position now where it could happen again.  Personally, I try not to leave more that $10 USD worth of Bitcoin on exchanges at any given time.  But I often wonder how many people, even after the gox fiasco and all this anger over Karpeles living the high life, how many still keep hundreds or even thousands on an exchange instead of in cold storage where it should be.  Satoshi envisaged Bitcoin as peer to peer money, so the fact that so many people rely on exchanges means we're generally doing this all wrong.

I'm not making any excuses for they guy, but as disgusting a creature as Karpeles is, it never would have happened if people were using Bitcoin as intended.

You're forgetting that Bitcoins best use is as a speculative financial instrument. The big Bitcoin economy would be so very much smaller without day traders. It's impossible to buy and sell at an exchange without having something in your account. I have had thousands at an exchange before. I transfer it out only when I know I'm not trading for a while.
there are a number of ways you can speculate with bitcoin without entrusting your funds to an exchange for long periods.

Even short periods are risky if your all in during a shutdown like with Gox.
The point was to allow for short period of holding bitcoin to provide sufficient time to sent fiat to the exchange buy the bitcoin and then withdraw to your wallet whose private keys you control.

There is little to no way around this risk as exchanges offer a very efficient way of buying/selling bitcoin that is not otherwise possible as of today. You could spread out your purchases/sells over time so you only have 10% of what you are buying at the exchange at one time and send more fiat once you have withdrawn the bitcoin you have purchased.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Keyser Soze on June 27, 2014, 04:53:27 PM
http://online.wsj.com/articles/mt-gox-head-believes-no-more-bitcoin-will-be-found-1403850830 (http://online.wsj.com/articles/mt-gox-head-believes-no-more-bitcoin-will-be-found-1403850830)
Quote
TOKYO—Scared, frustrated and angry—that's how Mark Karpelès, head of defunct bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox, says he felt when he realized in February that the exchange had lost nearly half a billion dollars' worth of the internet currency.

He said he has spent many sleepless nights since then. "I was always worried: 'What if all the bitcoins got stolen?" the 29-year-old Frenchman told The Wall Street Journal.

The Tokyo-based exchange blamed hacking attacks for the loss of 850,000 bitcoins, mostly those of customers. Since then Mr. Karpelès has rediscovered 200,000 bitcoins, but he doesn't believe more will be found.

"As the company head, my mission was to protect customers and employees," Mr. Karpelès said in the interview, his first with media since a Feb. 28 news conference to announce the exchange's bankruptcy filing. "I'm deeply sorry. I'm frustrated with myself."

From his 33rd-floor apartment in Tokyo's upscale Meguro neighborhood, he said he plans to auction off domain names as one way of keeping his other business alive and repaying creditors. Among them: bitcoins.com and akb.com, short for AKB48, a popular Japanese pop group. He didn't say whether the domain of mtgox.com would be for sale.

The high-profile collapse of Mt. Gox—once the world's largest bitcoin exchange--raised questions about exchanges' safekeeping of customers' bitcoins. A court-appointed trustee in Japan said in April that Mt. Gox was to be liquidated. On June 18, a Texas bankruptcy court approved Mt. Gox's application for bankruptcy protection of its U.S. assets.

Mr. Karpelès is still the CEO of Mt. Gox, though he has transferred all the funds to a court-appointed trustee. He has been busy trying to keep alive his web-services company, Tibanne, which was the de facto operator of Mt. Gox. He said the trustee would monitor the sale of domain names, and any extra proceeds after Tibanne has been funded through the end of the year would go to Mt. Gox creditors.

He says he wants to find a new head for Tibanne--named for his orange-and-white cat, which stayed close during the interview. He will then stay on as an engineer to help develop the company's services.

That decision comes from his experiences at Mt. Gox, where he says the failure to find experienced executives to help him deal with day-to-day operations was a critical mistake. Instead of focusing on the company's technology, he often spent hours each day in meetings with lawyers and bankers.

"The weakest point of my company was management," said Mr. Karpelès, who was the sole executive of the company. "I failed to lay out appropriate corporate structures."

Mr. Karpelès says he would prefer for someone to take over the exchange and that there are several groups interested.

Mr. Karpelès suggested he is concerned that one such plan, backed by child-actor-turned-entrepreneur Brock Pierce has proposed using Mt. Gox customer money to rehabilitate the exchange.

"To begin with, remaining customer money should not be touched," he said.

A police investigation is still under way in Japan concerning the missing bitcoins. Mr. Karpelès said un addition to hacking attacks taking advantage of a system weakness called transaction malleability, there were physical break-ins at the company's offices and that at least one former employee pilfered electronic data. A Metropolitan Police Department spokesman said on Friday that he couldn't say anything about the investigation.

"If anyone wants to start a bitcoin exchange, I would say, 'Be sure to have 24-hour security guards,'" Mr. Karpelès said.

Mr. Karpelès indicated that the exchange's fast growth had been too much for him to handle without experienced help. Just in the three months after he bought Mt. Gox from founder Jed McCaleb in March 2011, the number of accounts surged 20 times from 3,000, he said. Mr. Karpelès tried to hire experienced managers but profits in the early days weren't enough, he said.

Mr. Karpelès says that since Mt. Gox fell apart he has returned to the habits of his early days in Tokyo, including eating less-than-$2 instant noodles. He wakes continues to work after he comes home at night, trying to find customers for a new Tibanne service.

Though he is staying far away from bitcoins, Mr. Karpelès said he wants to participate in meetings of Tokyo's bitcoin community some day and would be willing to share his story with fledgling bitcoin businesses.

"My experience would be valuable to them, especially if they are thinking of starting up a bitcoin business," Mr. Karpelès said. "I can tell them what they should do and shouldn't."

I guess he needs to save on food to afford this apartment.  ::)


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on June 27, 2014, 05:19:44 PM
http://online.wsj.com/articles/mt-gox-head-believes-no-more-bitcoin-will-be-found-1403850830 (http://online.wsj.com/articles/mt-gox-head-believes-no-more-bitcoin-will-be-found-1403850830)
Quote
TOKYO—Scared, frustrated and angry—that's how Mark Karpelès, head of defunct bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox, says he felt when he realized in February that the exchange had lost nearly half a billion dollars' worth of the internet currency.

He said he has spent many sleepless nights since then. "I was always worried: 'What if all the bitcoins got stolen?" the 29-year-old Frenchman told The Wall Street Journal.

The Tokyo-based exchange blamed hacking attacks for the loss of 850,000 bitcoins, mostly those of customers. Since then Mr. Karpelès has rediscovered 200,000 bitcoins, but he doesn't believe more will be found.

"As the company head, my mission was to protect customers and employees," Mr. Karpelès said in the interview, his first with media since a Feb. 28 news conference to announce the exchange's bankruptcy filing. "I'm deeply sorry. I'm frustrated with myself."

From his 33rd-floor apartment in Tokyo's upscale Meguro neighborhood, he said he plans to auction off domain names as one way of keeping his other business alive and repaying creditors. Among them: bitcoins.com and akb.com, short for AKB48, a popular Japanese pop group. He didn't say whether the domain of mtgox.com would be for sale.

The high-profile collapse of Mt. Gox—once the world's largest bitcoin exchange--raised questions about exchanges' safekeeping of customers' bitcoins. A court-appointed trustee in Japan said in April that Mt. Gox was to be liquidated. On June 18, a Texas bankruptcy court approved Mt. Gox's application for bankruptcy protection of its U.S. assets.

Mr. Karpelès is still the CEO of Mt. Gox, though he has transferred all the funds to a court-appointed trustee. He has been busy trying to keep alive his web-services company, Tibanne, which was the de facto operator of Mt. Gox. He said the trustee would monitor the sale of domain names, and any extra proceeds after Tibanne has been funded through the end of the year would go to Mt. Gox creditors.

He says he wants to find a new head for Tibanne--named for his orange-and-white cat, which stayed close during the interview. He will then stay on as an engineer to help develop the company's services.

That decision comes from his experiences at Mt. Gox, where he says the failure to find experienced executives to help him deal with day-to-day operations was a critical mistake. Instead of focusing on the company's technology, he often spent hours each day in meetings with lawyers and bankers.

"The weakest point of my company was management," said Mr. Karpelès, who was the sole executive of the company. "I failed to lay out appropriate corporate structures."

Mr. Karpelès says he would prefer for someone to take over the exchange and that there are several groups interested.

Mr. Karpelès suggested he is concerned that one such plan, backed by child-actor-turned-entrepreneur Brock Pierce has proposed using Mt. Gox customer money to rehabilitate the exchange.

"To begin with, remaining customer money should not be touched," he said.

A police investigation is still under way in Japan concerning the missing bitcoins. Mr. Karpelès said un addition to hacking attacks taking advantage of a system weakness called transaction malleability, there were physical break-ins at the company's offices and that at least one former employee pilfered electronic data. A Metropolitan Police Department spokesman said on Friday that he couldn't say anything about the investigation.

"If anyone wants to start a bitcoin exchange, I would say, 'Be sure to have 24-hour security guards,'" Mr. Karpelès said.

Mr. Karpelès indicated that the exchange's fast growth had been too much for him to handle without experienced help. Just in the three months after he bought Mt. Gox from founder Jed McCaleb in March 2011, the number of accounts surged 20 times from 3,000, he said. Mr. Karpelès tried to hire experienced managers but profits in the early days weren't enough, he said.

Mr. Karpelès says that since Mt. Gox fell apart he has returned to the habits of his early days in Tokyo, including eating less-than-$2 instant noodles. He wakes continues to work after he comes home at night, trying to find customers for a new Tibanne service.

Though he is staying far away from bitcoins, Mr. Karpelès said he wants to participate in meetings of Tokyo's bitcoin community some day and would be willing to share his story with fledgling bitcoin businesses.

"My experience would be valuable to them, especially if they are thinking of starting up a bitcoin business," Mr. Karpelès said. "I can tell them what they should do and shouldn't."

I guess he needs to save on food to afford this apartment.  ::)


"My experience would be valuable to them, especially if they are thinking of starting up a bitcoin business," Mr. Karpelès said. "I can tell them what they should do and shouldn't."
^^^He feels qualified to give business advice?
Either Mark is a huge thief and considers most of the world very stupid, or he is in a fantasy world from which he will never return. (...or elements of both)


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: jonald_fyookball on June 27, 2014, 05:24:14 PM
a desperate ploy to make us think he's broke, while
he's living like a fat cat in a $15,000/month penthouse.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: zvs on June 27, 2014, 05:26:40 PM
Japan rocks.  I'm certain that exposed toilet would violate several laws here in the US (ed: and leave you open to a variety of civil lawsuits)


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: moriartybitcoin on June 27, 2014, 06:31:29 PM
Why wouldn't he live large? Stole half a billion dollars worth of bitcoin ..


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: QuestionAuthority on June 27, 2014, 07:01:14 PM
Why wouldn't he live large? Stole half a billion dollars worth of bitcoin ..

The same reason man walked on the moon, because he can. lol


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: TheFootMan on June 27, 2014, 07:04:20 PM
It's funny how he says he's back to his old lifestyle of eating 2usd nudles while still living in that apartment.

Also he had a good quote in the wsj interview: "In the future, I would like to participate in the bitcoin community, as I've experienced what to do and what not to do and can help others in that regard".


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on July 09, 2014, 04:50:19 AM
It's funny how he says he's back to his old lifestyle of eating 2usd nudles while still living in that apartment.

Also he had a good quote in the wsj interview: "In the future, I would like to participate in the bitcoin community, as I've experienced what to do and what not to do and can help others in that regard".

This community clearly needs good role models.  :o


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: allthingsluxury on July 09, 2014, 05:11:44 AM
It's funny how he says he's back to his old lifestyle of eating 2usd nudles while still living in that apartment.

Also he had a good quote in the wsj interview: "In the future, I would like to participate in the bitcoin community, as I've experienced what to do and what not to do and can help others in that regard".

Ouch, for some reason I don't think he'll be welcomed with open arms. Best of luck to him although.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: TheFootMan on July 09, 2014, 10:25:35 AM
It's funny how he says he's back to his old lifestyle of eating 2usd nudles while still living in that apartment.

Also he had a good quote in the wsj interview: "In the future, I would like to participate in the bitcoin community, as I've experienced what to do and what not to do and can help others in that regard".

Ouch, for some reason I don't think he'll be welcomed with open arms. Best of luck to him although.


liveleak is waiting for a vid of karpeles taking a giant crap on his toilet. it's in a skyscraper, with glass windows, how hard could it be to set up a telelense and just make a crap photo?



Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on July 09, 2014, 10:35:30 AM

The bidding starts July 24 at $185,000. Karpeles told the WSJ that the bankruptcy “trustee would monitor the sale of the domain names, and any proceeds after Tibanne has been funded through the end of the year would go to Mt. Gox creditors.” A press release circulated by Heritage Auctions quotes Karpeles: “We are hoping, with the sale of Bitcoins.com, to provide some relief to the people impacted by the Mt. Gox bankruptcy and will be putting at least half of the sale amount toward that purpose.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2014/07/08/mt-goxs-mark-karpeles-is-auctioning-off-bitcoins-com-opening-bid-185000/


the other half is for his expensive flat and living style  :D


http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2014/02/markkarpeles.jpg


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: #yolo on July 09, 2014, 01:06:34 PM
Being bankrupt sure seems to pay quite well, Mark seems as suspicious as possible but I think the Japanese should be investigating him deeply now (which shows one of the annoying things about bitcoins being anonymous, Scammers possibly getting away)

Out of subject completely/
Can't imagine the comfort of going to that bathroom and having such a nice view! -not such a good one for sharp lookers from below/other towers- MK need no newspapers in bathroom now  ;).


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: ElectricMucus on July 09, 2014, 01:13:50 PM
It's funny how he says he's back to his old lifestyle of eating 2usd nudles while still living in that apartment.

Also he had a good quote in the wsj interview: "In the future, I would like to participate in the bitcoin community, as I've experienced what to do and what not to do and can help others in that regard".

Well, perhaps he owns it and the maintenance costs aren't too high. And given his current status it wouldn't be sane to sell it either.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: InwardContour on July 12, 2014, 02:56:57 AM
It's funny how he says he's back to his old lifestyle of eating 2usd nudles while still living in that apartment.

Also he had a good quote in the wsj interview: "In the future, I would like to participate in the bitcoin community, as I've experienced what to do and what not to do and can help others in that regard".

Well, perhaps he owns it and the maintenance costs aren't too high. And given his current status it wouldn't be sane to sell it either.
He would not need to disclose his identity as the seller until someone would make an offer that is accepted on the property, and at that point the buyer would likely not want to try anything stupid as they have already invested money in the apartment.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on July 12, 2014, 03:21:40 AM
Being bankrupt sure seems to pay quite well....

Whether he is a criminal or a careless fool, Mark is not personally bankrupt just MtGox.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: factor280 on July 12, 2014, 03:51:16 AM
I guess one of the flaws of bitcoin... this guy is gonna go free and clear because bitcoin is anonymous. The beauty of it and also the flaw in this case.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on July 12, 2014, 04:20:28 AM
I guess one of the flaws of bitcoin... this guy is gonna go free and clear because bitcoin is anonymous. The beauty of it and also the flaw in this case.

Bitcoin is not completely anonymous, but many media/news stories have incorrectly said it is.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: factor280 on July 12, 2014, 04:24:57 AM
I guess one of the flaws of bitcoin... this guy is gonna go free and clear because bitcoin is anonymous. The beauty of it and also the flaw in this case.

Bitcoin is not completely anonymous, but many media/news stories have incorrectly said it is.

I thought it was basically fully anonymous? What aspect isnt? You mean when we fund the accounts or purchase bitcoin?


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on July 12, 2014, 04:32:28 AM
I guess one of the flaws of bitcoin... this guy is gonna go free and clear because bitcoin is anonymous. The beauty of it and also the flaw in this case.

Bitcoin is not completely anonymous, but many media/news stories have incorrectly said it is.

I thought it was basically fully anonymous? What aspect isnt? You mean when we fund the accounts or purchase bitcoin?

"While the Bitcoin technology can support strong anonymity, the current implementation is usually not very anonymous."
More info on anonymity:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Anonymity


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: InwardContour on July 12, 2014, 08:44:22 PM
I guess one of the flaws of bitcoin... this guy is gonna go free and clear because bitcoin is anonymous. The beauty of it and also the flaw in this case.

Bitcoin is not completely anonymous, but many media/news stories have incorrectly said it is.

I thought it was basically fully anonymous? What aspect isnt? You mean when we fund the accounts or purchase bitcoin?

"While the Bitcoin technology can support strong anonymity, the current implementation is usually not very anonymous."
More info on anonymity:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Anonymity
If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on July 12, 2014, 08:48:19 PM
...If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.

Since 2010 there have been dozens (perhaps hundreds, or even thousands) of media articles that call Bitcoin "anonymous", so many people believe that even though it is not true.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: ElectricMucus on July 12, 2014, 09:50:07 PM
...If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.

Since 2010 there have been dozens (perhaps hundreds, or even thousands) of media articles that call Bitcoin "anonymous", so many people believe that even though it is not true.

Don't act like there isn't an army of Captains Of Industry posting on reddit that this is the case too.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: DannyElfman on July 12, 2014, 10:08:21 PM
...If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.

Since 2010 there have been dozens (perhaps hundreds, or even thousands) of media articles that call Bitcoin "anonymous", so many people believe that even though it is not true.
If you use Tor, bitcoin fog, and wifi hot spots then you could effectively use bitcoin and be anonymous.

In reality, unless you are dealing with a lot of money (at least 6 figures, as measured in US Dollar equivalent) then most likely, no one will be able/bother to discover your identity.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: ElectricMucus on July 12, 2014, 10:11:47 PM
...If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.

Since 2010 there have been dozens (perhaps hundreds, or even thousands) of media articles that call Bitcoin "anonymous", so many people believe that even though it is not true.
If you use Tor, bitcoin fog, and wifi hot spots then you could effectively use bitcoin and be anonymous.

In reality, unless you are dealing with a lot of money (at least 6 figures, as measured in US Dollar equivalent) then most likely, no one will be able/bother to discover your identity.

Only if you solo mined them in 2010 through tor, if that even was possible.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: DannyElfman on July 13, 2014, 01:26:05 AM
...If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.

Since 2010 there have been dozens (perhaps hundreds, or even thousands) of media articles that call Bitcoin "anonymous", so many people believe that even though it is not true.
If you use Tor, bitcoin fog, and wifi hot spots then you could effectively use bitcoin and be anonymous.

In reality, unless you are dealing with a lot of money (at least 6 figures, as measured in US Dollar equivalent) then most likely, no one will be able/bother to discover your identity.

Only if you solo mined them in 2010 through tor, if that even was possible.
Today if you only communicate via tor for any bitcoin related trades, have your wallet communicate with the rest of the network via tor and only connect to tor at a wifi hotspot then you really do not have any opportunities of having your identity discovered.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on July 13, 2014, 09:31:46 AM
I guess one of the flaws of bitcoin... this guy is gonna go free and clear because bitcoin is anonymous. The beauty of it and also the flaw in this case.

Bitcoin is not completely anonymous, but many media/news stories have incorrectly said it is.

I thought it was basically fully anonymous? What aspect isnt? You mean when we fund the accounts or purchase bitcoin?

"While the Bitcoin technology can support strong anonymity, the current implementation is usually not very anonymous."
More info on anonymity:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Anonymity
If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362468.msg3878992#msg3878992


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Harley997 on July 13, 2014, 06:50:16 PM
I guess one of the flaws of bitcoin... this guy is gonna go free and clear because bitcoin is anonymous. The beauty of it and also the flaw in this case.

Bitcoin is not completely anonymous, but many media/news stories have incorrectly said it is.

I thought it was basically fully anonymous? What aspect isnt? You mean when we fund the accounts or purchase bitcoin?

"While the Bitcoin technology can support strong anonymity, the current implementation is usually not very anonymous."
More info on anonymity:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Anonymity
If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362468.msg3878992#msg3878992
Zero coin has it's own risks that are not related to anonymity, mainly that of getting enough users to use zerocoin. Another issue is that Zerocoin essentially uses blockchain.info's shared coin on every transaction, and this has proven to not be 100% anon.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Impros88 on July 15, 2014, 01:22:48 PM
I keep all bitcoin in bitstamp cause I trust them


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: giveBTCpls on July 15, 2014, 02:23:20 PM
It seems pretty ridiculous to me that you would take shits in the middle of the city up high on there. What is this? The place itself doesn't make me mad as it seems full of toxic hair, dust, and pollution. What makes me irate is the fact he spends more in a month than I can make in a year. If I had that kind of money I would be chilling in some island, not in the middle of a city. The bloody bastard. Im Lucky I never put my 0.3 BTC in Mt Gox  :D


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: giveBTCpls on July 15, 2014, 02:25:05 PM
I guess one of the flaws of bitcoin... this guy is gonna go free and clear because bitcoin is anonymous. The beauty of it and also the flaw in this case.

Bitcoin is not completely anonymous, but many media/news stories have incorrectly said it is.

I thought it was basically fully anonymous? What aspect isnt? You mean when we fund the accounts or purchase bitcoin?

"While the Bitcoin technology can support strong anonymity, the current implementation is usually not very anonymous."
More info on anonymity:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Anonymity
If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=362468.msg3878992#msg3878992
Zero coin has it's own risks that are not related to anonymity, mainly that of getting enough users to use zerocoin. Another issue is that Zerocoin essentially uses blockchain.info's shared coin on every transaction, and this has proven to not be 100% anon.

You are forgeting the biggest problem with ZeroCoin, if im not mistaken, it generates a file that contains a key that would give access to unlimited double spending, total control. You trust that this third party would destroy the key. This is insanely ridiculous. Im not touching ZeroCoin with a stick attached to a laser point if that was the case.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: djangocoin on July 15, 2014, 03:07:08 PM
Maybe he likes to take a crap whit the entire Tokyo looking at him?
Will the goxing ever end?  :o


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Bit_Happy on July 15, 2014, 04:04:01 PM
Will the goxing ever end?  :o

Perhaps after the courts are finally finished. If the exchange is allowed to re-open, then the Goxing might never end.


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: cryptopaths on July 15, 2014, 07:21:00 PM
Will the goxing ever end?  :o

Perhaps after the courts are finally finished. If the exchange is allowed to re-open, then the Goxing might never end.

The Goxing will come to an end and here's how: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=696063.msg7862638#msg7862638


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Gianluca95 on July 15, 2014, 07:46:24 PM
1.6 million of yen for that place? Is too much cheaper  ;D


So, in the month of August I'll travel in Tokyo, and i'll visit the mt-gox side  ;D


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: Stapleddiet on July 16, 2014, 01:39:29 PM
/rant ggggrrrr my life should of been so different ... loop rant


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: DjPxH on July 16, 2014, 07:18:32 PM
...If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.

Since 2010 there have been dozens (perhaps hundreds, or even thousands) of media articles that call Bitcoin "anonymous", so many people believe that even though it is not true.
If you use Tor, bitcoin fog, and wifi hot spots then you could effectively use bitcoin and be anonymous.

In reality, unless you are dealing with a lot of money (at least 6 figures, as measured in US Dollar equivalent) then most likely, no one will be able/bother to discover your identity.

How did we even end up talking about how to remain anonymous when this thread started with our Frappuchino loving Frenchman on that island far far east?  ;D


Title: Re: Karpeles back to living large in one of the most expensive apartments in Tokyo
Post by: TheFootMan on July 17, 2014, 01:07:24 AM
...If you take certain precautions and pay the right price (pay for mixing services) then you can stay anonymous with bitcoin.

Since 2010 there have been dozens (perhaps hundreds, or even thousands) of media articles that call Bitcoin "anonymous", so many people believe that even though it is not true.
If you use Tor, bitcoin fog, and wifi hot spots then you could effectively use bitcoin and be anonymous.

In reality, unless you are dealing with a lot of money (at least 6 figures, as measured in US Dollar equivalent) then most likely, no one will be able/bother to discover your identity.

How did we even end up talking about how to remain anonymous when this thread started with our Frappuchino loving Frenchman on that island far far east?  ;D

If the glass tower you sit in is high enough, are you then anonymous?