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Title: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: dank on June 23, 2014, 01:30:36 AM
http://youtu.be/mWwidH1Et6s

TV was developed as a tool of propaganda to put you in a passive hypnotic state to put your mind into a receptive trance for information.

I felt this way for a good while as I was aware of a change in consciousness when watching TV, it's cool to see it has been explained and confirmed.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: TECSHARE on June 23, 2014, 06:41:55 AM
I am glad at least one person bothered to look into my statements.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657362.msg7451935#msg7451935
Here is some more interesting effects of television on children
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/04/040406090140.htm

Information on brain wave entrainment
http://www.transparentcorp.com/products/np/history.php


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: jaberwock on June 23, 2014, 07:45:36 AM
Wow, Never know this before. I would never watch television again. Does flat led computer monitor have the same hypnotic power as television do?


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: bitsmichel on June 23, 2014, 10:53:22 AM
Wow, Never know this before. I would never watch television again. Does flat led computer monitor have the same hypnotic power as television do?

No, not as far as I know. You'll often see people in front of TV, and cannot get up or switch the channel - even if they are watching complete rubbish. A computer in addition, allows you to interact and control, so you do not get in the same state.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: ttram on June 23, 2014, 11:49:50 AM
The television it self has a flash rate that entrains your brain into into a hyperactive state until it becomes fatigued and enters into a theta wave pattern which is what your brain enters into while in a dream state. Because of this brain wave entrainment your mind is in a state of passive absorption under which the normal categorizing, skeptical, censoring part of your brain that would normally classify information according to validity, usefulness, and association is completely bypassed allowing information to enter directly into your permanent memory with no frame of reference. How many times have you been watching a television program in a dazed slack jawed state, then a commercial pops up and you forget what you were even watching? This is your brain falling out of the fatigued theta pattern, giving you a moment of consciousness you were previously not enjoying.

This results in a state known as "source amnesia" where you have this information in your brain, but you can not determine the source. Was it a conversation you had, a book you read, a show you watched, a dream? This is the primary mechanism and strength of Television "soft" mind control. I refer to this as "soft" mind control to distinguish from programs like MKUltra which are described as "hard" mind control because it is basically using chemicals and brute force repetition to gain results as opposed to an unrelenting but more casual form like TV mind control.

http://pix.echtlustig.com/1303/smells-like-bullshit.jpg


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: spazzdla on June 23, 2014, 01:53:26 PM
The thing about calling Bullshit is usually the person is just REALLY lazy and gets scared about the idea they have zero control over their lives doesn't want to look it up calls BS and hopes others agree so they can go back to feeling in control.

The matrix was sooo good at showing what is really going on around you.  If you are 100% certian everything around you is real you have a lot to learn.  If you think most of the decisions you've made have been a controlled decision.. you have a lot to learn.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: shogdite on June 23, 2014, 02:18:11 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/QsTKudKrJPj3y/giphy.gif



Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: TECSHARE on June 23, 2014, 02:54:51 PM
Since you are only capable of communicating in pictures, maybe this will help you understand.

http://84d1f3.medialib.glogster.com/media/c3/c3d8a9a35047d60a42a43ab17981870162193fc5d7c491d0fd6b3ff8a14f2d6c/05-11-05-fear-ignorance-hate.jpg

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=brain+entrainment
P.S. Big Bang Theory sucks (dick most likely). If you don't like the smell maybe you should brush your teeth.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: bitsmichel on June 23, 2014, 07:14:07 PM
The thing about calling Bullshit is usually the person is just REALLY lazy and gets scared about the idea they have zero control over their lives doesn't want to look it up calls BS and hopes others agree so they can go back to feeling in control.

The matrix was sooo good at showing what is really going on around you.  If you are 100% certian everything around you is real you have a lot to learn.  If you think most of the decisions you've made have been a controlled decision.. you have a lot to learn.

The matrix had a hidden theory behind all the action. The movie 'they live' also shows this to some degree. Many decisions humans make are unconscious, simply because we do not have the time to think about every single action.



Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: countryfree on June 23, 2014, 11:23:27 PM
when watching TV.

Don't!

I haven't watched TV since 1993 (no Internet back then), and I think differently than most people.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: dank on June 24, 2014, 03:25:40 AM
when watching TV.

Don't!

I haven't watched TV since 1993 (no Internet back then), and I think differently than most people.

Yeah I haven't for a while, not near as long as you but it's definitely something to avoid.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: ttram on June 24, 2014, 09:29:37 AM
The thing about calling Bullshit is usually the person is just REALLY lazy and gets scared about the idea they have zero control over their lives doesn't want to look it up calls BS and hopes others agree so they can go back to feeling in control.

The matrix was sooo good at showing what is really going on around you.  If you are 100% certian everything around you is real you have a lot to learn.  If you think most of the decisions you've made have been a controlled decision.. you have a lot to learn.

dude, I haven't said that TV is good, I don't watch TV either, but that's not because I fear that the TV's flas rate will "entrain my brain into into a hyperactive state until it becomes fatigued and enters into a theta wave pattern" or whatever he said there, but because I know that TV is just a silly waste of time for the low-minded and because I don't like the thing that I can't chose what to watch, I can only chose the channel, but on the internet I can chose to watch whatever I want whenever I want and nobody can stop me. And because I hate reality-shows that really seem to wash brains. And because the porn on the internet is way better :D


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: spazzdla on June 24, 2014, 01:15:59 PM
The thing about calling Bullshit is usually the person is just REALLY lazy and gets scared about the idea they have zero control over their lives doesn't want to look it up calls BS and hopes others agree so they can go back to feeling in control.

The matrix was sooo good at showing what is really going on around you.  If you are 100% certian everything around you is real you have a lot to learn.  If you think most of the decisions you've made have been a controlled decision.. you have a lot to learn.

dude, I haven't said that TV is good, I don't watch TV either, but that's not because I fear that the TV's flas rate will "entrain my brain into into a hyperactive state until it becomes fatigued and enters into a theta wave pattern" or whatever he said there, but because I know that TV is just a silly waste of time for the low-minded and because I don't like the thing that I can't chose what to watch, I can only chose the channel, but on the internet I can chose to watch whatever I want whenever I want and nobody can stop me. And because I hate reality-shows that really seem to wash brains. And because the porn on the internet is way better :D

Porn on the web is where it's at.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: TECSHARE on June 24, 2014, 02:15:31 PM
The thing about calling Bullshit is usually the person is just REALLY lazy and gets scared about the idea they have zero control over their lives doesn't want to look it up calls BS and hopes others agree so they can go back to feeling in control.

The matrix was sooo good at showing what is really going on around you.  If you are 100% certian everything around you is real you have a lot to learn.  If you think most of the decisions you've made have been a controlled decision.. you have a lot to learn.

dude, I haven't said that TV is good, I don't watch TV either, but that's not because I fear that the TV's flas rate will "entrain my brain into into a hyperactive state until it becomes fatigued and enters into a theta wave pattern" or whatever he said there, but because I know that TV is just a silly waste of time for the low-minded and because I don't like the thing that I can't chose what to watch, I can only chose the channel, but on the internet I can chose to watch whatever I want whenever I want and nobody can stop me. And because I hate reality-shows that really seem to wash brains. And because the porn on the internet is way better :D
Good for you, want a cookie? Just because you don't have the mental capacity to understand something doesn't make it bullshit, it just means you are ignorant and lashing out at things you don't understand.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: (oYo) on June 24, 2014, 02:57:09 PM
I'm not sure why you had to make two separate threads about the same thing. Nonetheless I just have one thing to say...

TV shits in your brain.

http://lacigreen.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/you-are-stupid.gif


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: Benjig on June 24, 2014, 07:27:47 PM
Well tv is only good for seeing movies and good shows as entertainment, but if you are making out of the tv the most trusted source of news/communication then you are doing some wrong.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: TECSHARE on June 25, 2014, 11:27:02 PM
Wow, Never know this before. I would never watch television again. Does flat led computer monitor have the same hypnotic power as television do?
Yes, potentially a flat screen monitor can have the same effect, but since using a computer tends to be a more active conscious task, unless you are passively watching video the effect is not the same. The flash rate refers to the common standard of 24 frames per second. Recently the latest hobbit movie came out and was released with an increased flash rate and made many of the viewers feel nauseous or have headaches. More evidence of the power of brain entrainment over the body's physiological functions.  



Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: wenben on June 26, 2014, 03:00:19 AM
Marketing is mass hypnotic.

The signal flickering from tv is not.



Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on June 26, 2014, 04:52:09 AM
The theme of television controlling your mind has been used in various mediums
Their is some truth to it in that if you control the media outlets you control the message
And what doesn't make the news can't be news now can it :)

Of course with two monitors one TV and one called a computer we got two hypnotic choices and one might be able to cancel the other out or amplify the signal XD.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: TECSHARE on June 26, 2014, 05:02:45 AM
Marketing is mass hypnotic.

The signal flickering from tv is not.


Yes, I am sure science is wrong and you are right. Hypnosis does not exist. Go back to sleep.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: ttram on June 26, 2014, 12:52:55 PM
Just because you don't have the mental capacity to understand something doesn't make it bullshit

ahahahahahahahaha that's funny :)) christians say the same shit when I tell them I don't believe in god......

once again, WTF?!?! let me see if I understood: you're either saying that the TV's framerate per second is somehow hypnotizing our brains and it's TV's fault or you're saying that watching something at 24 or 30 fps without doing something active with your brain hypnotizes your brain, but in both cases you're wrong because the PC monitors and almost any other modern device with a display will give you the same effect when you watch a movie or netflix or a simple youtube video....


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: KonstantinosM on June 26, 2014, 01:09:26 PM
Marketing is mass hypnotic.

The signal flickering from tv is not.


Yes, I am sure science is wrong and you are right. Hypnosis does not exist. Go back to sleep.


Hypnosis only works with certain people in certain mental states.

Cite a couple of peer reviewed studies proving that TVs can hypnotize a high percentage of the population.

If you make extraordinary claims be ready to provide extraordinary evidence rather than a non-sense YouTube video and a couple of vague articles.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: TECSHARE on June 26, 2014, 04:13:20 PM
Brain entrainment has been known to exist as far back as the 1800's. This is by far not an extraordinary claim. There is a plethora of documentation on the matter if you actually care to know, you are perfectly capable of looking for yourself. I have no desire to try to educate people such as yourself who are too fucking lazy to put a few words into a search engine to look for themselves. You aren't interested in learning, you are here to jerk off your egos and argue like petulant children.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=brain+entrainment
 


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: protokol on June 27, 2014, 06:26:32 PM
Wow, Never know this before. I would never watch television again. Does flat led computer monitor have the same hypnotic power as television do?
Yes, potentially a flat screen monitor can have the same effect, but since using a computer tends to be a more active conscious task, unless you are passively watching video the effect is not the same. The flash rate refers to the common standard of 24 frames per second. Recently the latest hobbit movie came out and was released with an increased flash rate and made many of the viewers feel nauseous or have headaches. More evidence of the power of brain entrainment over the body's physiological functions.  



You are confusing strobe-like flashing with frame rate. TVs typically display a frame rate of 24fps, but actually flash at a much higher frequency (anything from 50Hz, to 960Hz on newer plasma TVs). Some TVs/monitors actually flash each line one at a time (interlaced scanning), some flash the entire image at once (progressive scanning).

The Hobbit was filmed at 48fps instead of 24, but this has nothing to do with flashing - this is simply the frame rate (ie the still image changes 48 times per second). The actual refresh rate would depend on the projector used. It does look different, many newer TVs have a "100Hz" refresh rate which basically gives the same effect - The picture looks a lot smoother when there is fast movement on the screen. Personally I don't like the effect, I prefer the standard 24fps (it can look flickery when there is movement, but I think it just looks better).

As someone said upthread, the "hypnosis" is all to do with the CONTENT, and nothing to do with any brain entrainment or hypnotic flashing.

Don't get me wrong, I think TV these days is fucking mind numbing, it's all made to cater for our ever decreasing attention span. I think this is partly to do with there being so many competing channels/media portals, all vying for our attention. Attention = viewers = advertising revenue. It's all as simple as that, we seem to be stupid enough to fall for it without any hypnotic technology being involved.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: dank on June 27, 2014, 07:12:27 PM
Just because you don't have the mental capacity to understand something doesn't make it bullshit

ahahahahahahahaha that's funny :)) christians say the same shit when I tell them I don't believe in god......

once again, WTF?!?! let me see if I understood: you're either saying that the TV's framerate per second is somehow hypnotizing our brains and it's TV's fault or you're saying that watching something at 24 or 30 fps without doing something active with your brain hypnotizes your brain, but in both cases you're wrong because the PC monitors and almost any other modern device with a display will give you the same effect when you watch a movie or netflix or a simple youtube video....

God is the universe.  God = all, love positivity.  Universe = totality of existence.  God.


Title: Re: Television - Mass Hypnotic Indoctrination
Post by: TECSHARE on June 28, 2014, 05:47:36 AM
Wow, Never know this before. I would never watch television again. Does flat led computer monitor have the same hypnotic power as television do?
Yes, potentially a flat screen monitor can have the same effect, but since using a computer tends to be a more active conscious task, unless you are passively watching video the effect is not the same. The flash rate refers to the common standard of 24 frames per second. Recently the latest hobbit movie came out and was released with an increased flash rate and made many of the viewers feel nauseous or have headaches. More evidence of the power of brain entrainment over the body's physiological functions.  



You are confusing strobe-like flashing with frame rate. TVs typically display a frame rate of 24fps, but actually flash at a much higher frequency (anything from 50Hz, to 960Hz on newer plasma TVs). Some TVs/monitors actually flash each line one at a time (interlaced scanning), some flash the entire image at once (progressive scanning).

The Hobbit was filmed at 48fps instead of 24, but this has nothing to do with flashing - this is simply the frame rate (ie the still image changes 48 times per second). The actual refresh rate would depend on the projector used. It does look different, many newer TVs have a "100Hz" refresh rate which basically gives the same effect - The picture looks a lot smoother when there is fast movement on the screen. Personally I don't like the effect, I prefer the standard 24fps (it can look flickery when there is movement, but I think it just looks better).

As someone said upthread, the "hypnosis" is all to do with the CONTENT, and nothing to do with any brain entrainment or hypnotic flashing.

Don't get me wrong, I think TV these days is fucking mind numbing, it's all made to cater for our ever decreasing attention span. I think this is partly to do with there being so many competing channels/media portals, all vying for our attention. Attention = viewers = advertising revenue. It's all as simple as that, we seem to be stupid enough to fall for it without any hypnotic technology being involved.


I am not confusing anything. Frame rate = flashing still pictures at XXhz. The overall flashing varies depending on, as you mentioned, film frame rate as well as the actual viewing device used and its refresh rate. Regardless of the hz rate of a monitor you look at, the predominant visually perceived rate of the frame/flashing is dependent upon the video format settings. In short, even if your refresh rate is 70hz, the visually predominant effect will still be the frame rate, because the screen is often refreshed as you said one pixel line at a time. Additionally the higher the frequency, the less able the human eye is able to perceive it as an independent "frame" or flash if you will. At a certain point the human eye simply can not perceive them as independent frames any longer, physiologically reducing the perceptive effect of entrainment.