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There's currently heated discussion when it comes to the new logo for the New Economy Movement.

I decided to call us the community to perform a vote.  Which logo do YOU like the most?


1. Tomoe

https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/52fad1d4f9dae58171699f3f/5329c5d96bdbc59765165d89/500x500/0c0c2268c172682905e48dccecd709d6/nemLogoV8.png

https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/52fad1d4f9dae58171699f3f/5329c5d96bdbc59765165d89/500x211/42e437b07f039eba96d70acd2053e16b/logoV8_text_rounded.png


2. Cube

https://i.imgur.com/i30q55h.png
https://i.imgur.com/J3tyuKq.png
https://i.imgur.com/jxZeS4j.png


3. Abstract NEM
https://i.imgur.com/NyX370H.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18301977/gvans%20nem%20colourschemes.png

4. Abstract NEM  2
https://i.imgur.com/cxGLdbh.png

5. Coin
https://i.imgur.com/R3ZPHek.png

#2 cube

Those designs are all very different from each other. That being said the cube is most appealing to me aesthetically.

I like Tomoe best but on Coinmarketcap the Abstract NEM that is there right now looks awesome! 8)

Please someone with photoshop, make these comparable next to each other in the size they use in coinmarketcap!! Then we only see the reality how these compare! How big is cmc logo anyway? Not too many pixcels. Most logos look DULL in that size

Ive voted for the third one. :)

Okay I need to say something here. I think there is a couple more good proposals in trello-board which are missing here. And all in all this might be little rushed before gathering all promising logos and show them in the exact same comparable size. Why not in coinmarketcap-size too as someone proposed, which is 16x16 pixels.

As I happen to be the designer of the #3 I cannot but notice that I have previously made public also these modifications of that very logo:

My original "green" proposal  here  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.msg5045181#msg5045181)

boring.. logo works. It will take some time to get used to, but next month you will be saying: damn, it works.

The Tomome is conceptually good but something is off in the execution.

The thin slivers around the edge or something about the program used to make the curve looks off.

the way apple does IOS is super flat design is a good indicator. The Tomome tries to be super flat but its not some how, and ends up looking like a 12 year olds ms paint.

The way the cube combines the letters is quite smart and probably subconscious, it also makes you look at it to see how it fits together, because humans are puzzle solvers

Further the CUBE logo has three different but coherent presentations which builds a sigil effect. None of the others integrate with the words or suggest type face of NEM.

The Cube offers a complete package and design language with which the rest of the nem effort can use as a guide.

Also I don't need and explanation about the Cube, it tells me what it is even in the logo N + E + M. The tomone requires a blurb of text to justify it.

For this reason the cube is currently better on multiple fronts, and the more I look the better the cube is.

Can you make the lines where the colors meet less rounded?

I don't think we should be voting yet. Obviously none of thee Stand out strongly enough for a large amount of support. I don't like any of these and I have seen better in hold forum. We need one last thread where we can have a "surge" of brainstorms where any and all ideas can be posted. Then set a date where we must set up a final vote, say around the launch of beta or so. This group of designs is NOT strong enough to warrant a vote at this point! Give it a little more time and we will have a very competitive group. :-\

Thank you. These are fairly representatives from what I have seen. We will see what the results are.

I would consider it an interim vote. These are the best in the pool and the logo submission has been open for a long time.  And don't do "design by committee", rarely anything good can come out. If you have something nice to propose, put it here.

I think the green one looks best and the 3d is better than the flat design.

I don't think a cube represents the non-hierarchical ideals of NEM.

I agree with you about the balance of the original tomoe logo, so I made some changes:

https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/52fad1d4f9dae58171699f3f/5329c5d96bdbc59765165d89/500x500/0c0c2268c172682905e48dccecd709d6/nemLogoV8.png

https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/52fad1d4f9dae58171699f3f/5329c5d96bdbc59765165d89/500x211/42e437b07f039eba96d70acd2053e16b/logoV8_text_rounded.png

I would encourage people interested in the logo design to join the logo committee. It is up to the logo committee to try to provide some guidance for the design of NEM. The tomoe logo is still a work in progress and we don't have any new design from Loi, so I don't think holding a vote now is the best time.

Please join the logo committee on trello if interested (PM me with your trello username if you need to be added to the board or something):
https://trello.com/c/JhDuvPYf/66-logo-contest-2-phase-of-narrowing-down

hello for CUBE thank yoube!

100% agree about the "design by committee" comment!

The voting results here will help provide some guidance as to what kind of things the community likes. We are still working on modifications of the tomoe design and I think Loi is working on a design too. I think what would be the most helpful here would be to explain why people like certain aspects of a logo they chose and what are some cons about it. Everything has pros and cons, so please try to list them up and provide helpful feedback.

TOME，It indicates nem spread powerfully.

Thanks for being receptive. The new modifications to Tome logo are good because it eliminates the odd shape of the outer ring.
To me there is a strong contrast between the tome and the cube logo. One is of traditional, old-fashioned style versus one of a modern, futuristic style. Can't be more different. If it might work if  Loi can infuse a strong dose of modernity to yours but as it is the cube is much better to my eyes.

We are a community and nothing is set in stone yet, so I want everyone to try to contribute and help build our brand.

You are right about the contrast between old and new. To be honest, I like that contrast. It is non-diegetic and I think it helps to stand out from other coin logos (well, that was the objective in the design).

Loi's design is good, but the problem is I think the cube doesn't represent what NEM is, and a lot of the logo committee agreed. It is well balanced and designed (he is a pro, after all), but the concept needs a little work I think. I don't think a cube represents NEM and I think simply incorporating the letters N E M is not enough (you can't see that anyway, without being taught). Loi is really busy right now it seems, but I hope he can try to come up with some new ideas.

Rather than just going to 99 designs, as many have suggested, I would prefer to have the community or someone like Loi who works with us to build the logo. I think that will be more meaningful than a pretty logo created by a hired hand, who isn't interested in our movement. The most ideal situation would be to have a team of several designers who are pros and work to build our brand because they are passionate about what we are doing.

We'll continue to make improvements and see what will happen. For the final design, a professional like Loi or someone else will definitely be used to create something and the community will be given an opportunity to comment on it. Something like that should work well I think, though maybe someone has other suggestions?

Anyway, if you have ideas, PLEASE come on trello and help out.

I think you are too fixated on your own ideas. The cube has the style and fun factor and that saying it does not represents NEM ideas is unfair.

Simple, precise, easy to draw, does not need tons of text to be explained and has a fun factor: Pls count my vote for the nice NEM CUBE  :)

I think the same.

That is some what better, but if I could say this ,the tomome is used in quite a lot of places in some cultures as you have pointed out and is no unique to nem.

You have now slapped the tomome on to the last letter of the nem and ended up with a rounded curve not a the same as the other lettering so broken the visual language, its sort of shoe horned in.

further the N + E + M concept is not there or something equivalent.

I'm not trying to put your design down in anyway, rather it just does not seem to offer the unified visual language or the be su de novo / sui generis , to nem, and thus differentiated from everything else.

You might have a better design in you, but the tomome as it is does not appear to tick all the boxes the cube does

Also I like the way the cube sort of looks like it is floating, and popped out of the page, I saw this first some where else and it caught my eye.

Anyone notice how cube is winning the votes and alot of newbie accounts are posting they like the cube?

Anyways I like number 3 of the bunch, the nemstake logo from coinmarketcap

I like abstract NEM. Cube would have been good too but for the colour combo.

tbh, I don't particularly like any of them. Aren't there any better out there?

Rofl, come on dude

~CfA~

P.S. I VOTE CUBE

Heres what happens when you mix tomoe with cube

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.q2c.cc%2Fflogo.png

You get the quibit logo  :-X

1, 2, 3 and 5 are great...I'm not a fan of 4
I personally think 2 (cube) will be the winner and will take home the logo prize, very professional

I like Tomoe

i like tomoe and cube :D

tomoe on my view looking good, I like it!

5 is way too much like silicon valley coin.

Deserved to be added in the front page next to option 3

has there even been a call for logo submissions?

I like Tomoe on Cube as well, currently liking Tomoe the most.

Also agree the abstract NEM looks neat on Coinmarketcap at small size: https://i.imgur.com/oQnRXSI.png

Here's a 16x16 version of tomoe: https://i.imgur.com/lIhkwpF.png  

-- nice!

Hi all, i just want to ask how to vote? On the logo list, nothing can be clicked? >:(

Hi JavaCoder, I think "Newbie"-status accounts (activity <30) can't vote on Bitcointalk, is it?

Hmmm....thank you for your response.

IMHO Abstract NEM  2, the dark one with green, is the most suitable to generate interest from mainstream, as it on the one hand looks serious and like a currency symbol (the M) and on the other has something mysterious, something what is coming but no one knows...

The mystery effect plays in well here. This logo doesn't need come in green a light version would work as well.

+1 for 4. Abstract NEM  2

CUBE

After some thought,  I'm going to put my vote towards abstract Nem.

I don't have any of this coin (and probably won't be getting any).  However, the "cube" logos look the nicest IMHO.  Logo #1 looks too much like a Japanese family crest symbol, and #3-5 look too abstract, it's hard to tell what they are.

My vote goes for no.2,cube.

No 1 is also great but there is no direct connection with NEM

Cube.

Abstract NEM, I really like that.

If I were on your place must chose that design.

michael8888,  sorry but that is not a logo.  and this is not a submission thread.

Oh,I think it's open fair and free logo community vote.

Your logo could be added in if it has a strong support. I don't think it has.

You've got a iot of confidence.Everyone likes a confident guy. ;D

vote vote vote get your support group here :D :D :D

I could not vote either.
I pick the CUBE. I don't like the TOMOE.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/US-DeptOfTransportation-Seal1980.svg/500px-US-DeptOfTransportation-Seal1980.svg.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/US-DeptOfTransportation-Seal.svg/500px-US-DeptOfTransportation-Seal.svg.png

For those who want to see how these top 3 logos looks like in CCM in comparison http://s23.postimg.org/dpqn6f863/Untitled_2_100_RGB_8_2014_06_29_16_00_01.jpg
P/S: Sample text only

Ive voted for the third one.

Voted for nr. 3 but i like nr. 1 and nr. 2 also.

THIS! Thank you so much for doing this!

Now everyone, pick a pen and paper, look at the logos, close your eyes and draw them on the paper.
Got my point? You can draw Zorro-nem as easy as $ or €, how's that for memorable :)

edit: no offence for loi.tranquang as you seem to be the designer of the cube, this is just my point of view

The currency symbol and logo/symbol don't have to be the same. :)

A symbol is a symbol without text. It should embody the ideals of the movement. The logo should have text at first, so we can build our brand. It should incorporate the symbol somehow.

For a symbol, I think tomoe is good, but I am playing around with some other ideas, like describing the POI algorithm graphically in the symbol. Here is one idea (just a sketch at this point; this shows that different accounts have different importances):

https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/52fad1d4f9dae58171699f3f/5329c5d96bdbc59765165d89/250x250/c0fe51fe0e9af2307473f92520bde894/nemLogoV9.png

I personally think tomoe looks pretty cool at a small size :D

Now that is unique. It looks like a crop circle!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Crop_circles_Swirl.jpg/300px-Crop_circles_Swirl.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_circle
http://www.cropcirclelogos.com/

But... it is too complex and at a distance it is too similar to the logos of Ripple and Quark.

Agree

Cube, but we should wait for more logos. I expect something better. serious bounty should be promised.

Wasn't there already a bounty?  We never resolved the contest, and I can't even remember the link to the full collection of submissions.  I thought whoever designed the final logo was to be given 1 stake for it?  That was long ago though, but there should be some bounty.

Originally stated by utopianfuture there was logo/ currency symbol dev stake list with 6 stakes to be shared for logo-designs. I don't know if the plan has been changed.

The results of the contest went to the logo committee, here: https://trello.com/c/JhDuvPYf/66-logo-contest-2-phase-of-narrowing-down

Overall, there was no great consensus on what to do, so after UP left, we decided to start with finding/creating a symbol for NEM and then use that to help our branding to be consistent, and we came up with tomoe. This is still a work in progress, though.

I am not the one to decide, but I personally think that everyone who submitted a logo that made it to the final stage should get a stake. Some people worked hard and that is really great that they were motivated to help NEM.

I think rather than having many different threads discussing this, we should try to discuss things on the nem forums: http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2228.msg2833;boardseen#new

I don't know why you think tomoe is such a great idea. I wonder why the committee missed obvious shortcomings of the tomoe symbol such as: too provincial, non unique, old-fashion. I like the N-E-M box better.

The way I see it if you really stand by the "NEM three principles" idea, you need to infuse a lot modernity into the tome symbol and it can't be a hack job neither. So a competition for ideas may be needed. 

I thought the same about ripple and quark, so I am still playing around with this idea: http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2228.msg2936#msg2936

More votes Go Go  ;D ;D ;D

I cant vote??  ??? Only see results

try to design logo for NEM.

The looks is descent but it says "non" at first glance for me.

TOMOE. I choose TOMOE's.

same thought

just take it to professionals please. I dont see reason for not having professional logo with launch.

The cube

I don't like cube because it bears the name of New Economy Movement, which means, it has a shelf life. It is no more new in 5 years from now.

In my opinion, a cube represents more of engineering than the "fluidity" of economics. Circular in shape represents mobility.

Circular in shape is also suitable for animation. It can be represented as a ball of fire, a rolling ball, a planet in an orbit and can be easily integrated into an icon of an ecosystem.

It can be abstractly represented as an "economic sphere" and a "movement" in the world in which we live in. Most of all, it can abstractly represent our earth.

Agree with above, my vote was cast for Tomoe, don't get the box at all.  It's cute, but how does a box/cube translate into anything NEM related? IMO it's a bad choice for a long-term logo design.

Don't worry, we will get professional branding before launch.

The cube is N+E+M. Do you mean that NEM is going to have a shelf life? NEM = New Economy Movement and I think it is a nice contrast with the old-current monetary system and will has a historical importance far in the future.

I support TOMOE and I vote the first one. It's  beautiful and moving.

Another thing about the Tomoe logo along with the "NEM" text.  On it's own it's better than inserted into the cube design's font.  The font is all wrong for it.  The curved corner of the "M" conflicts with the corresponding straight line of the "N".  It might be able to be redesigned so that the font is different, but that can't be kept.

Totally agree that the font needs to be redesigned if we go with something like tomoe as a symbol.

more votes needed.

 Abstract NEM   3              best      :)

2.  CUBE    ;)

I also vote for #2 CUBE!

1. Tomoe!

Is Voting still continue or it's decided which Logo will be use.

New logo: http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2306.0

Vote coming soon.

LOGO voting http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2311.0 . Let's show support for the CUBE !!!

https://i.imgur.com/yTm2zZi.jpg

All NEM members, please register and vote!

Inactive members, take this simple step and do something for NEM.

Voting closes: August 01, 2014, 06:38:44 AM
Official NEM Logo Vote
http://forum.nemcoin.com/index.php?topic=2311.15

My campaign for the Cube logo.
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Reasons for Selecting the Cube as the Symbol of NEM.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7729767#msg7729767
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7993975#msg7993975
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654845.msg7995429#msg7995429
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The new logo is "flat" compared to the 3d appearance of the cube, especially at the size of a 16x16 pixel icon.
https://i.imgur.com/JuLjwcM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/yTm2zZi.jpg