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After Silkroad and MtGox and all the negative things being associated with crypto currency, we need to have more people from the community supporting causes like,

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-helps-anti-poaching-teams-new-charity-campaign/

Enough of the bad Press, let's get behind projects like these, and show the world, what BTC is really about.

If you have any other projects, like this, please post them, there are people who care, about the world we leave behind. 

Bitcoin isn't really about charity though...sort that sounds harsh, but you say "show what Bitcoin is really about" as if it were made to support charities like this.

what bitcoin should be doing is support renewable energy by setting up and funding a R & D team on it.

No. The market should support renewable energy... And who exactly is this bitcoin?

anti-poaching charities do have costs to do what is needed, but these costs are in african FIAT

kinda strange that the worlds FIAT of yen, pounds, canadian/american dollars, euro's yuan, rubles kronas are not being requested.. lol

my opinion, another money earner for a australian middle man...

id rather pay the safari wardens direct.

oh and one last thing.. rhinos are native to africa.. kangaroos are native to australia.. so the australian guy is not showing any direct local partnership with the cause. more like he just google searched charities and poked his finger at a random link.. all inspired by the african exchange iceCUBED

.. moving on to the title of this topic rather than the story.

title: clean up reputation. yea, stop handing funds to unknown people that have no direct ties to a cause and where those cause does not actually need bitcoins..

No matter, what the cause, as long as it a legitimate cause, we might get behind it. Dropping a few satoshi here and there, will not break your bank.  >:(

Have you even seen, what are being done to these African rhino's? Imagine someone cuts off your nose, while you still alive?

Have you touched a rhino? Have you seen a dead carcass, where the horn has been cut off?

Well I have, and it's not something I ever want to experience again.

Look at my message, ...I am saying, lets do something good, and try to undo some of the harm that was done. It does not just mean, that you have to support the
rhino cause, you can list any other cause, for which you feel, some BTC might make a difference.

I would one day, have my kids touch a rhino or animals like these, who are being wiped out, at an alarming rate.  :'( :'(

Franky1 - What would a African ranger do with your Yen / Pounds etc? Convert it to Rand and pay exchange fees? They convert it to Rand, because it's the currency of that country and it practical, to pay people for their services, in the fiat currency they use.

 

show me a bitcoin QR code on a proper african rhino salvation service... and ill donate. until then i wont donate to middle men on a different continent

and im not talking about an "international foundation" im talking about the actual wardens/rangers directly

the international foundation linked in the article, is not the 'foot soldiers' but a fund manager, that hands out 'sponsorship' to schools to train managers of campaigns and lobbyists to to get fair labour, and regulatory laws in place.

i prefer that my donations go to foot soldiers doing actual patrols(knowing they are getting a nice slice of the donation pie) and not have 99% of my donations split between paper pushers.

Well here are some contact details on this page, if you need more info.

http://www.iapf.org/en/

I doubt if, park rangers, have bitcoin addresses, but you can ask.  ;D

The money also goes into other equipment being used, by the rangers. I know, because I watched a documentary on TV about this.

They use drones in the air to look for poachers, because the areas that need to be covered are huge.

But it's a choice, nobody needs to be forced to donate something, but it would be a kind thing to do.
 

yup. this is what i meant.  the bitcoin millionaires specifically. 

Bitcoin is like a kind of money. The way you are using it depends on who holds the amount of BTC, just like the other currency Dollar, Euro etc. No need to clean up! The people who think BTC is not good really don't know BTC is what.

True, bitcoin isnt about charity, but that doesnt mean one portion of users cant use it for that.
Its insane today with charity organisations, as most of the money goes sideways; using bitcoin would realy show every movement of funds, thus making charity scamers unable to cheat anyone.
This just show how nice and diverse bitcoin realy is.

cheers

bitcoin for the win!

so lets drop the rhino international foundation of fund managers off the table.

i personally loved the seans outpost charity, as it was clearly seen that bitcoins were used to actually feed alot of homeless, there were not hundreds of middle men, no paper pushers sitting on their ass for a salary..

so lets see some idea's of actual good causes where funds go right to the "frontline" avoiding middle men and fund syphoners

anyone got any good proper causes?

Would it be worth knowing that Mars One accepts Bitcoin donations directly on their official Website? It's a way for them to cut out the middleman and the risks of somebody claiming they're fundraising for Mars one when really they're not. Click on the one-time donations tab and you'll see that option: http://www.mars-one.com/donate

But, seriously, if I want to donate to a charity, I try to do it directly and do my research about that particular charity so I know the money's going where it's supposed to go. Donate your old unwanted stuff to the Salvation Army rather than Goodwill, for instance, because the Salvation Army CEO is basically a volunteer as opposed to Goodwill's CEO making a large salary while the clerk at the checkout counter makes minimum wage.

Do you really believe that? You really believe that using BTC would eliminate scammers and cheaters? Really?

Why would the PRESS want to cover Bitcoin being "good"?

That's not what they're there to do! There supposed to wreck the image of cryptos in the face of the population so that people will remain in the fiat side of things.

Even if we fund the next big thing that everyone wants and that's good for the environment and gluten free and organic and all that other stuff, it turns into "Cryptos backed by large amounts of fiat", or something along those lines. Rarley will it actually be the entire truth.

In order to make Bitcoin more "positive" we have to talk to the masses directly, instead of having to use the news outlets of a medium. We have to spread it by word-of-mouth. Stuff isn't simply made positive just by doing good things.

Don't get me wrong, this is a good idea, and it might very well be some good publicity, but we can't rely on the media.

I'll consider dropping some BTC into the charity, but I'll have to see.

it would definetly be helpfull, unlike bank accounts that are "for owners eyes only"

dont know will it stop scammers indefinetly, sure as hell it would make things much harder for them.

cheers

What I would ask is this. Once the donation in BTC was received and then immediately converted, exchanged into FIAT would not we be at the same place as if the donation was made in FIAT and the scam is in the works?

Regards,

Bitcoin has no image problem (http://themisescircle.org/blog/2014/02/25/bitcoin-has-no-image-problem/).

Thank you for linking this great article!

I also don't think we need to do an image campaign for bitcoin. We just need to build the technologically best Bitcoin possible through constant developmental evolution. That's it. Bitcoin is just technology with no behavioral implications attached. You can't sentence a piece of technological innovation.

All in all Bitcoin can be used for a lot of good things and can change the world for the better.

We get 1 link to 1 persons blog, and we deny, what is there in front of us?

I watched a lot of interviews, with people who are new to Bitcoin, and the first thing, they mention is MtGox and Silkroad. We cannot deny, that the nay sayers and the Press will jump on  those type of events, to push crypto currency down.

We need to look for some positves, and I highlighted only one, which can be used as a example of what good are done with BTC

We do not even speak about the unemployment reduction and entrepreneurial genius at work, in the BTC community.

Well, if you believe, BTC has a great image, remember my post, when you are confronted with the Silkroad and MtGox comments coming from potential new adopters or
negative press.

I just commented, on what I experienced from listening to Podcasts and watching videos and reading blogs. 

Why push someone down, if he wants to do something good?

I think it's a good thing that you posted this. I don't think there is anything negative about donating with bitcoin and it being converted to fiat as opposed to donating with fiat directly. Bitcoin as a wide reach and people who would have otherwise known about the cause might find out solely because they've been informed they can donate in bitcoin.

The quickest way to clean up bit coin is for people to be smarter with their funds. Bad actors will always exist, but if we are smarter about how we manage our currency they will be less successful and less frequent.

Quickest way is to have people stfu about 'huuuurrr government' and get their heads out of their collective 'educated' and 'enlightened' asses.

although donating is a 'puff piece' of PR/media attention. just throwing funds at a greedy charity is just as bad as throwing funds at mtgox.

i would by-far love to see more positive media around true charity such as seans outpost, which has clear start to end display of funds movement and usage, no greed, and actual display of end user benefit.

i however do not like to see a puff piece advertising how bitcoins are thrown into blackhole charities.... no matter how positive the articl would be wrote.

bitcoin meant to be different, and setting new trends. where we control the true value and we control who gets it. so why waste oppertunities like this to just throw it at greedy FIAT loving office workers.

so again apart from "corporate charities" anyone care to mention some proper charities with less middlemen and more end users?

For normal people, Silk Road represents huge civilization advancement.

You could always donate to the Red Cross. (http://www.kfbk.com/articles/national-news-104668/red-cross-calls-sandy-spending-trade-12510279/)

pfffp greedy F**kers,, no thanks

Haiti disaster raised over $200mill, less then $30mil moved into Haiti, but no one knows how much was spent on actual food, water, clothing etc..

so i thank you for posting that link as it was actually the Haiti crap in regards to red cross a few years back, that woke me up to these corporate greedy mo-fo's

Bitcoin is not 'about' anything, any more than gold is 'about' something.

Bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency, period.  Bitcoin is 'about' drugs if you buy and sell Yayo on Silk Road.   Bitcoin is 'about' charity if you donate some of your BTC to help starving kids in Africa.  Bitcoin is 'about' whatever you want it to be about ...

If you want charity, there are some others that have charity in mind like Dogecoin.

Bitcoin, among other stuff,  supports and gives value to those cryptos so it is entirely made for other causes, one of them, innovate

economy and start a new age...

Enough with the joke coins already. No Doge is not a different animal. You do not support Wikileaks, EFF, or anything serious for that matter. Where was Doge during the Typhoon in the Philippines? How many homeless people did dogecoins feed in the last few years?  Where is the Doge 100 list of charities?

Sadly, if dogecoin was actually takes seriously, it would also be used by criminals because that would mean it has actual value. Dogecoins are today's Garbage Pail Kids of the cryptocurrency toyland. Enjoy the laughs while you can.

Ending the war on drugs, with compassion. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlD6OdbuDK4)

Down, boy! Sit.

The criminal thing is actually an interesting point. You don't hear about a lot of doge scammers either.

You don't hear about scammers in litecoin, namecoin, ppcoin, or any other altcoin either. There is nothing special about dogecoin there.

yes .. for those who are too busy working in the office, selling in the market, and those who do not like computers or networks bitcoin be a foreign thing. especially if they do not follow forums that talk about bitcoin., and because they do not understand, they finally refused bitcoin. when they are not aware that bitcoin is simple :)

Exactly.
Sad but true.
Everyone is just in it to try make as much $$ as possible.
That includes 'the foundation' and any websites, faucts etc etc.
Maybe 2-3 years the vision was all hippyish, now its just selfish make as much money as possible.

again, sad but true :(

The one where news media reports Bitcoin crimes only. Outside of forums and Reddit, nobody reports altcoin scams. Like I said, nobody hears about them.

I think the USD should clean up it's reputation. No other currency has been used for so many crimes and scams. Mexican drug cartels use to do business and institutionalized fraud runs rampant in the USD economy.

Negative things are connected with BTC not because of Silkroad or MtGox but beacause of lots of people still think it's  something to pay for drugs or cp.

I have no idea what you are talking about. *plonk*

that is because not enough people know about altcoins to make it worthy for the MSM to report on.

People don't know enough about Bitcoin to make it worth covering other than bad stuff. And the occasional rise to $1,100. But since this poses such a threat to the traditional system (And everyone thinks it's already too late to cash in on it and make some serious cash), everyone wants to wreck the popularity and bash it because they never got in on it.

But it is true, I'd draw the line at Bitcoin. In the altcoin universe, there is NO WAY you are going to get your coin on the news, since it's hard enough for people to understand what Bitcoin is. Diving past Bitcoin would lose about 58% of the viewers instantly. They'd have no idea what you're saying.

And knowing the media, they'd probably bullcrap and spin it around too, and say everything is a clone of Bitcoin with nothing special, and equait is as "value extensions of Bitcoin", to convince people that altcoins are extensions of Bitcoin with different names, leeching off of the value, and that "Bitcoin has no value because anyone can make a coin that adds more to the total coin count."

This isn't even entertaining anymore. It's just downright stupid.

Reputation has nothing to do with it. They see it as a threat and nothing that anyone says or does will change that because it's true. It is a threat.

bitcoin received a fairly good amount of press when it was rallying due to issues in Cypress.