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Title: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: Disturbed on March 02, 2012, 07:05:02 AM
Hello, i am completely new to BTC and thought the easiest way to buy some would be exchanging from UKASH but now i see it isn't as easy as i thought. Now i have some Ukash and need to exchange it to BTC or at least to LR and then to BTC but where???
THere are so many scammers in the internet....
Now i tried with 20 Euro at realgg.nl and will keep you up to date but if someone knows a well known and trustworthy exchanger please let me know.

Thanks


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: Stephen Gornick on March 02, 2012, 07:24:21 AM
You might be able to use OKPay.
 - https://www.okpay.com/en/company/news/okpay-ukash.html

Once funds are in OKPay, Mt. Gox is one exchange that lists OKPay as a deposit method.


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: Disturbed on March 02, 2012, 07:51:16 AM
You might be able to use OKPay.
 - https://www.okpay.com/en/company/news/okpay-ukash.html

Once funds are in OKPay, Mt. Gox is one exchange that lists OKPay as a deposit method.
They do not accept UKASH, there is no way to set UKASH as paypament option, when you try to add money there is no Ukash available.


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: Disturbed on March 02, 2012, 01:12:44 PM
Ok now i got 4,81 BTC for my 20 Euro, the first transaction with realgg.nl went good. I will try another smaller one with 80 before i exchange big amounts.
Will keep you up to date.


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: muyuu on March 02, 2012, 01:19:26 PM
Intersango and MtGox work just fine.

Not sure why are you limited to UKASH though.


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: EuSouBitcoin on March 02, 2012, 01:42:07 PM
OP, which country are you in?


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 02, 2012, 02:44:48 PM
UKash users are limited to UKash because UKash is the most often used amongst scammers because it can be stolen and unloaded easily.


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: Nefario on March 02, 2012, 02:55:48 PM
OP's best choice is to use Intersango or CryptoExchange. MtGox is biggest for USD but you have to do an international wire transfer which is quite expensive, as the amount isn't large I would recommend someone with an account based in the US.

With Intersango you can also trade bitcoin for GBP, EUR and PLN if you want to play the markets after getting bitcoin.

I'm the community manager for Intersango.

I AM Nefario!!!!!! SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa..........


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: Disturbed on March 02, 2012, 04:41:46 PM
Well now i changed 100 EUro at realgg.nl and got 24.40 Bitcoin.
I think that is fair for an Ukash Exchange.
I used Ukash because i thought it would be the easiest to change but from now on i will use LR or something else.
At least the exchanger www.realgg.nl is trustworthy and not a scammer.


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: gensen on March 02, 2012, 05:20:38 PM
Well now i changed 100 EUro at realgg.nl and got 24.40 Bitcoin.
I think that is fair for an Ukash Exchange.
I used Ukash because i thought it would be the easiest to change but from now on i will use LR or something else.
At least the exchanger www.realgg.nl is trustworthy and not a scammer.

Thanks for the nice words about me and my service! I hope to see you again maybe i can help you whit the LR Exchange!?

Thanks for business


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: sonba on March 03, 2012, 10:43:23 PM
if you want to avoid the whole work of buying UKash in the first place and interested in paying via wire you might want to try bitcoinmarket24.com. If you use instant SEPA you will receive the BTC in less than a minute :)


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: Disturbed on March 07, 2012, 07:06:41 AM
if you want to avoid the whole work of buying UKash in the first place and interested in paying via wire you might want to try bitcoinmarket24.com. If you use instant SEPA you will receive the BTC in less than a minute :)
Maybe but it is not anonymous. Buying Ukash an any gas station or supermarket and exchange it via a trustworthy exchanger is absolutely anonymous and that is what i want.


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: Disturbed on April 06, 2012, 06:36:56 AM
Well now i changed 100 EUro at realgg.nl and got 24.40 Bitcoin.
I think that is fair for an Ukash Exchange.
I used Ukash because i thought it would be the easiest to change but from now on i will use LR or something else.
At least the exchanger www.realgg.nl is trustworthy and not a scammer.
Things changed. In the past he may be ok but he scammed me this week and i am not the only one.
NO MONEY TO THE SCAMMER


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: gensen on May 20, 2012, 11:27:16 PM
Well now i changed 100 EUro at realgg.nl and got 24.40 Bitcoin.
I think that is fair for an Ukash Exchange.
I used Ukash because i thought it would be the easiest to change but from now on i will use LR or something else.
At least the exchanger www.realgg.nl is trustworthy and not a scammer.
Things changed. In the past he may be ok but he scammed me this week and i am not the only one.
NO MONEY TO THE SCAMMER


What's  happend? the last time you told me this:




Hello Genni, i really thank you for beeing trustworthy. There are so many
scammers in internet....nobody to trust so i was very happy to see you are
correct. There is no need to pay me anything, just keep this good service
running Smiley
My nick is Disturbed in that board and this is my Topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67004

THX


A few days later you place a order:


Details:

Ukash voucher number
63371801179*******
63371801124*******


Ukash value
50 EUR
50 EUR


BitCoin deposit address
16JNuCxWocNz5CpsB9zc8BTZxtGLukbFBV



I handled your order see the MTGOX History Details:


2012/04/06 12:14:43   withdraw      22.10660000 BTC   
Bitcoin withdraw to 16JNuCxWocNz5CpsB9zc8BTZxtGLukbFBV



Whats Happend, Did you give me a wrong Btc Address or something ?


PLease let me know


Regards


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: meagain on June 14, 2012, 06:31:14 PM
Well now i changed 100 EUro at realgg.nl and got 24.40 Bitcoin.
I think that is fair for an Ukash Exchange.
I used Ukash because i thought it would be the easiest to change but from now on i will use LR or something else.
At least the exchanger www.realgg.nl is trustworthy and not a scammer.

Thanks for the nice words about me and my service! I hope to see you again maybe i can help you whit the LR Exchange!?

Thanks for business

well, nice to see that you seeem to make differences in people..
Some get their money and some don't???
I used your service yesterday... and all i received was an emailacknowledging the receipt.
WHERE IS MY MONEY???
SCAMMER!!


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: gensen on June 14, 2012, 11:23:09 PM
Hello,

PLease why are you in PANIC there is no need!!
If you orded something and payed me please give me all the details so i can look what is wrong!!

And give the details here on the forum, If you realy ordered something we treat  your complainment here on the forum sinds you never sent me ONE MESSAGE  OF YOUR COMPPLAINMENT and so every body can see how i handel whit this kind of complainments so give me your order details Please

Regards



Title: HO ARE THE SCAMMERS
Post by: gensen on June 14, 2012, 11:46:26 PM
Well now i changed 100 EUro at realgg.nl and got 24.40 Bitcoin.
I think that is fair for an Ukash Exchange.
I used Ukash because i thought it would be the easiest to change but from now on i will use LR or something else.
At least the exchanger www.realgg.nl is trustworthy and not a scammer.
Things changed. In the past he may be ok but he scammed me this week and i am not the only one.
NO MONEY TO THE SCAMMER


What's  happend? the last time you told me this:




Hello Genni, i really thank you for beeing trustworthy. There are so many
scammers in internet....nobody to trust so i was very happy to see you are
correct. There is no need to pay me anything, just keep this good service
running Smiley
My nick is Disturbed in that board and this is my Topic:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67004

THX


A few days later you place a order:


Details:

Ukash voucher number
63371801179*******
63371801124*******


Ukash value
50 EUR
50 EUR


BitCoin deposit address
16JNuCxWocNz5CpsB9zc8BTZxtGLukbFBV



I handled your order see the MTGOX History Details:


2012/04/06 12:14:43   withdraw      22.10660000 BTC  
Bitcoin withdraw to 16JNuCxWocNz5CpsB9zc8BTZxtGLukbFBV



Whats Happend, Did you give me a wrong Btc Address or something ?


PLease let me know


Regards

Whats wrong whit some people they come whit complainments try to give my businessa bad name, calling me a SCAMMER and making allegations.

When i try to help and ask them where did it go wrong, give some resolution,  they never respond any more!

This gives me some proof and i ask myself WHO ARE ARE THE SCAMMERS?



Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: the joint on June 29, 2012, 10:38:39 PM
gensen,

I think you're the scammer buddy.


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: gensen on June 30, 2012, 01:30:20 AM
PLease read my posts carefully!
Than you notice that the so called customers whit the complaints have some bat intensions to me and my company!


My regular customer want to back me up here on this forum that's why i start this tread, but they can't post here!?

Can i get some help here? Dous somone know where i can open a topic so my customers can post, leave comments etc..


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: John (John K.) on June 30, 2012, 02:12:32 AM
Either post at your thread in the marketplace section or this section will do.


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on June 30, 2012, 02:16:17 AM
PLease read my posts carefully!
Than you notice that the so called customers whit the complaints have some bat intensions to me and my company!


My regular customer want to back me up here on this forum that's why i start this tread, but they can't post here!?

Can i get some help here? Dous somone know where i can open a topic so my customers can post, leave comments etc..

Get a native english speaking person to copy-edit your site to avoid the spelling mistakes making it look like a scammer runs it. Im not saying this to insult you or your site but offer some friendly advice.


Title: Re: Looking for exchanger seems hard
Post by: gensen on June 30, 2012, 09:25:09 AM
PLease read my posts carefully!
Than you notice that the so called customers whit the complaints have some bat intensions to me and my company!


My regular customer want to back me up here on this forum that's why i start this tread, but they can't post here!?

Can i get some help here? Dous somone know where i can open a topic so my customers can post, leave comments etc..

Get a native english speaking person to copy-edit your site to avoid the spelling mistakes making it look like a scammer runs it. Im not saying this to insult you or your site but offer some friendly advice.

Advice well taken,Thanks. I gonne make some changes on the site put the focus more on buying and selling Bitcoins instead of exchanging evry thing and the language will be correctly done by a native english speaking person.