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Title: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: commandrix on June 29, 2014, 07:41:47 PM
Essentially, California previously had a law on the books that you could only buy and sell with U.S. dollars in California although it hasn't really been enforced. And now you can pay with cryptocurrencies. http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/29/california-law-clears-bitcoin-payment/?ncid=rss_truncated


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: Chef Ramsay on June 29, 2014, 07:49:07 PM
On one hand this can be seen as Cali being on the cutting edge of things but on the other, it could be statist Cali doing what they do best: legislating.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: Riniaiokl on June 29, 2014, 07:56:18 PM
Legalize bitcoin? Why do they need to do anything. Isn't something legal by default unless it's made illegal?


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: jbreher on June 30, 2014, 06:16:43 AM
Legalize bitcoin? Why do they need to do anything. Isn't something legal by default unless it's made illegal?

Yes. But Cali's law is funny that way. Long before Bitcoin was invented, they passed a law barring many types of payments. The definition they used in this law just happened to include Bitcoin. This new law exempts Bitcoin from this class of illegal payment mechanisms.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: CoolBliss on June 30, 2014, 10:32:16 AM
This is great news. Other states tend to follow Cali's lead on a number of issues.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: haploid23 on June 30, 2014, 05:21:46 PM
Seeing how the US government auctioned off a shit ton of bitcoins, I don't see how California or other soon-to-follow states wouldn't call it legal, otherwise they'll just contradict each other. Written law that legalize bitcoin is actually a pretty big step forward for crypto currency's legitimacy.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: skyisblue on June 30, 2014, 05:29:02 PM
 :)  It is a good news, because more people know bitcoin.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: jbreher on June 30, 2014, 08:36:24 PM
This is great news. Other states tend to follow Cali's lead on a number of issues.

I am unaware of any other states that have such insane laws that required the exemption.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: allthingsluxury on June 30, 2014, 08:38:31 PM
Good news.  :D


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: gondel on June 30, 2014, 08:44:52 PM
California love!
California is the best state of USA!
You make everything which is good and iligal LEGAL :D
I have o say it again everything which is good!
Hope when BTC goes high enough I can visit you and spend little on bars, hotels and souvenirs in your state!
Wish you all LUCK!
br


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: Eotnak on June 30, 2014, 08:53:52 PM
Sounds like someone in Silicon Valley wanted a bitcoin startup, their lawyers found this law, they threw some money at their lobbyist, and here we are today with this news.  Another day in politics.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: jabo38 on July 01, 2014, 12:49:58 AM
however or why ever, it is good news


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: Malin Keshar on July 01, 2014, 12:57:02 AM
Legalize bitcoin? Why do they need to do anything. Isn't something legal by default unless it's made illegal?


Think he meant regulated? Or at least with a warranty of btc not being banned in the near future, so there is more safety when accepting it for payment.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: Lauda on July 01, 2014, 01:22:31 AM
Finally something good for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: montreal on July 01, 2014, 01:29:17 AM
Sounds like someone in Silicon Valley wanted a bitcoin startup, their lawyers found this law, they threw some money at their lobbyist, and here we are today with this news.  Another day in politics.

Agreed, at first Dickinson seemed to cloak this bill in amazon coins, starbucks stars, coupons, and reward points. He spoke modestly about bitcoin and played neutral but that quickly changed. A little "positive" media couldn't hurt either  



Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: Skele on July 01, 2014, 01:37:27 AM
Finally something good for Bitcoin.

Everything, even bad news are good for Bitcoin and it's holders, in fact bad news increases more Bitcoin's popularity...


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: Malin Keshar on July 01, 2014, 01:48:07 AM
Finally something good for Bitcoin.


This is far from being the first good new for bitcoin. That law was in no way inforced, so its almost the same as usual, but everyday there are shops accepting bitcoins, that MIT stuff, laws and regulations favorable to BTC, etc, etc... , just the FUD and bad news can be too noisy sometimes


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: LostDutchman on July 01, 2014, 01:52:00 AM
Essentially, California previously had a law on the books that you could only buy and sell with U.S. dollars in California although it hasn't really been enforced. And now you can pay with cryptocurrencies. http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/29/california-law-clears-bitcoin-payment/?ncid=rss_truncated

California enacted the currency law in response to the use of the Mexican peso in commerce within the state.

No one paid much attention to it anyway.

Just grandstanding.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: bitbaby on July 01, 2014, 01:59:43 AM
This is great news, it will attract more people in  I am sure and I think it is because of the government bitcoin auction, since the government itself is selling bitcoins, no reason why it shouldn't be legal.

Has Vegas legalized it yet?


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: jbreher on July 01, 2014, 05:46:42 AM
Has Vegas legalized it yet?

It wasn't ever illegal in NV. The Golden Gate and the D have been accepting Bitcoin for food & lodging for quite some time now.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: lihuajkl on July 01, 2014, 06:10:45 AM
Legalize bitcoin? Why do they need to do anything. Isn't something legal by default unless it's made illegal?

Yes. But Cali's law is funny that way. Long before Bitcoin was invented, they passed a law barring many types of payments. The definition they used in this law just happened to include Bitcoin. This new law exempts Bitcoin from this class of illegal payment mechanisms.
Never mind. At least the law making can adapt to the changing situation and are able to service the great interest of the population in Cali.


Title: Re: California makes it legal to pay with Bitcoin and other virtual currencies
Post by: Cicero2.0 on July 01, 2014, 06:10:49 AM
Finally something good for Bitcoin.


This is far from being the first good new for bitcoin. That law was in no way inforced, so its almost the same as usual, but everyday there are shops accepting bitcoins, that MIT stuff, laws and regulations favorable to BTC, etc, etc... , just the FUD and bad news can be too noisy sometimes

Yep. There has been a ton of good news for bitcoin if one is paying attention. I think such a long string of good news has made us a bit ho hum about these stories.