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Title: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on July 01, 2014, 01:56:43 PM
Now with newegg accepting bitcoins, and every news channel reporting bitcoin, all the action happening around, can we officially claim bitcoin has entered mainstream?

If not, then what is the critical point above which we can officially declare bitcoin has gone mainstream?


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on July 01, 2014, 02:05:50 PM
When you are blowing cocaine up a hooker's ass. On a beach. Every day.

you mean both the coke and hooker purchased with bitcoin?


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Dogtanian on July 01, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
I think we'll know when it's hit mainstream. It hasn't currently but has started to break through. I think when you can spend it in a few shops in the mall or on the street and many major retailers such as Amazon and ebay accept it then we'll be at mainstream adoption.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: sevenz on July 01, 2014, 02:09:55 PM
what was the critical point above which the internet was officially mainstream?

The answer is only known in retrospect.

In terms of the internet, I would say the web became more mainstream when browsing services like AOL dumbed down the concept of being online to people making it a "no think, just point and click" zone.

I think systems such as CoinBase have been trying to do just that, but it's not quite there yet.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: lihuajkl on July 01, 2014, 02:11:04 PM
Nearly every merchants accept BTC payment essentially  along with existing card payment. Employees are happy to take BTC salary.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: kokojie on July 01, 2014, 02:12:40 PM
When both amazon and walmart accept it, all the previous merchants are big for us, but tiny compared to amazon/walmart, they do like 1% of their sales volume.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: commandrix on July 01, 2014, 02:56:08 PM
Possibly when you get as much lending and borrowing with Bitcoin as you do at the banks and credit unions, when you can buy a cupcake for a little bit of Bitcoin at most bakeries, and when you can start buying stocks and bonds with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Dogtanian on July 01, 2014, 03:05:10 PM
what was the critical point above which the internet was officially mainstream?

The answer is only known in retrospect.

In terms of the internet, I would say the web became more mainstream when browsing services like AOL dumbed down the concept of being online to people making it a "no think, just point and click" zone.

I think systems such as CoinBase have been trying to do just that, but it's not quite there yet.

The internet took quite a while to become mainstream but technology moves 10 times as fast nowadays, not to mention obviously bitcoin is built around the internet. There will be services or payment processors that make it easier for people to use that's for sure. I don't think it's as complicated as many people make out though.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Guido on July 01, 2014, 03:23:15 PM
when a large dinosaur payment processor like western union or paypal feels like it has to incorporate or get totally left behind
and/or ebay adding

think that will fuel a rush of normal people buying and multiple merchants accepting on a daily basis

I personally don't think that far off. later in year

I also still think we'll be in $1500 range inside 2 months


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Nautica on July 01, 2014, 03:24:28 PM
when a large dinosaur payment processor like western union or paypal feels like it has to incorporate or get totally left behind
and/or ebay adding

think that will fuel a rush of normal people buying and multiple merchants accepting on a daily basis

I personally don't think that far off. later in year

I also still think we'll be in $1500 range inside 2 months

Alright, MEGACOIN.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: waldox on July 01, 2014, 03:38:17 PM
mainstream is when bitcoin replaces usd as world reserve currency


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: franky1 on July 01, 2014, 06:14:37 PM
main stream when these questions all answer yes
1) find a stranger and ask them, do they know what bitcoins is? (stranger because you probably told people you know, so unfair)
2) ask the stranger if they know someone that has used bitcoin?
3) can you use it as part of your daily life?
4) can you reach a merchant without having to drive 50 miles+


some area's of the world will be mainstream far before others. EG facebook and mcdonalds is not mainstream in parts of Africa, but certainly is in america.

bitcoin is getting there in parts of the US, but not every city..

but world mainstream is when those 4 questions aply to everyone. (which i do not expect for a few more years).

so just concentrate on mainstreaming your own area, and let the rest of the bitcoiners/world concentrate on their area's to then combine and become world wide main stream.

i think someone smart once said, dont worry about the rest of the world, just concentrate on your own little area, if everyone just concentrated on their own area,.. the whole world will be a better place


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: justusranvier on July 01, 2014, 06:15:27 PM
Bitcoin will be mainstream when the last central bank closes its doors.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: franky1 on July 01, 2014, 06:19:50 PM
Bitcoin will be mainstream when the last central bank closes its doors.

Euro is mainstream, but dollar still exists.. eurozone didnt need to kill american banks for euros to go mainstream...
it just means that euros are mainstream in europe.

going mainstram does not mean nothing else can live. mainstream means anyone can access and use it. and it can co-habitate.

killing off the banks is AFTER mainstreaming. we first need to mainstream to offer average joe the alternative. then the banks can get shut down



Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Ron~Popeil on July 01, 2014, 06:23:01 PM
When you can use it just about anywhere it is main stream. Credit card acceptance is nearly universal. I would consider that a decent benchmark. 


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Skele on July 01, 2014, 06:52:36 PM
Bitcoin will be mainstream when the last central bank closes its doors.

That will never happen, or still a long way to replace fiat completely.

I believe Bitcoin will be used worldwide, as a better, faster and safe way to move money, selling, buying and making transactions; but classical paper bartering will still a little longer, at least in places or countries with poverty problems.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: jbrnt on July 01, 2014, 07:27:19 PM
I would summarise mainstream for bitcoin is "when shops expect a drop in sales if they do not accept bitcoin as payment". It is like going into a shop today and they do not accept credit cards.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: maxl on July 01, 2014, 07:28:23 PM
I think Bitcoin gets mainstream when everybody can use it for their daily business like paying at the supermarket with bitcoin. Or on the gas station and so on.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Beliathon on July 01, 2014, 08:25:57 PM
When you are blowing cocaine up a hooker's ass. On a beach. Every day.

you mean both the coke and hooker purchased with bitcoin?
No, he means cocaine, hooker, and private island were purchased with bitcoin.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Robert Paulson on July 01, 2014, 08:34:40 PM
when bitcoin does at least 50 transactions per sec (that's what paypal does).
we are at 0.8...


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Roy Badami on July 01, 2014, 08:46:36 PM
For it to be officially mainstream, presumably some official needs to declare it such.  Perhaps a civil servant in the Department of Mainstream Affairs might issue a press briefing?

roy


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: pening on July 01, 2014, 09:39:20 PM
Now with newegg accepting bitcoins, and every news channel reporting bitcoin, all the action happening around, can we officially claim bitcoin has entered mainstream?

When it isn't a news story anymore.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: toknormal on July 01, 2014, 11:41:31 PM
1-800 Flowers, worlds leading florist now announced they're going to be accepting Bitcoin.

Major WSJ article - today:

http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140701-906106.html


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Alley on July 02, 2014, 12:24:17 AM
When over 50% of brick and motar stores accept it.  Hell there's still places I can't use my amex card.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: 5w00p on July 02, 2014, 12:47:03 AM
When you are blowing cocaine up a hooker's ass. On a beach. Every day.

I'm just trying to understand why one would give a prostitute a cocaine enema.  :-X

Whatever floats yer boat, Skipper.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: sevenz on July 02, 2014, 12:16:36 PM
what was the critical point above which the internet was officially mainstream?

The answer is only known in retrospect.

In terms of the internet, I would say the web became more mainstream when browsing services like AOL dumbed down the concept of being online to people making it a "no think, just point and click" zone.

I think systems such as CoinBase have been trying to do just that, but it's not quite there yet.

The internet took quite a while to become mainstream but technology moves 10 times as fast nowadays, not to mention obviously bitcoin is built around the internet. There will be services or payment processors that make it easier for people to use that's for sure. I don't think it's as complicated as many people make out though.

I agree, it's not as complicated as people make it out to be. But, neither was/is the internet.
The internet went mainstream in two phases as I see it, phase one took place in the 90's. Phase two took place with social networking which brought everyone who was late to the table and it nailed that door shut. Everyone is here now. Unless you are poor. But zuckerberg and his drones are taking care of that. LOL

Either way, it was AOL making "retard proof" GUI's that really stuck the internet into the mainstream. Technology is much faster these days, because people are using it....but look at what majority of people are using...easy simple apps that a 3 year old can operate - so much so that some even predict apps could become the death of the web browser and traditional internet.

Ease of access with make bitcoin go mainstream, as I said, coinbase as already kickstarted this ease of access. It's the long wallet keys that intimidate people who are not "in the know" with coins.

This is the pivotal point of bitcoin going mainstream...When AOL made retard proof GUI's and people hopped on, they were not really using the authentic internet - it was watered down and kind of disguised. This will happen with bitcoin, there will be a retard proof way, people will log on to use it - and at that point, people who were already using bitcoin will slightly judge them - the same way computer geeks turned their noses up to AOL.

Just my two satoshis. LOL


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: ChuckOne on July 02, 2014, 05:05:17 PM
I would summarise mainstream for bitcoin is "when shops expect a drop in sales if they do not accept bitcoin as payment". It is like going into a shop today and they do not accept credit cards.

US only. ;)


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Beliathon on July 02, 2014, 05:22:06 PM
when bitcoin does at least 50 transactions per sec (that's what paypal does).
we are at 0.8...
When bitcoin does at least 1000 transaction per second.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: BitchicksHusband on July 02, 2014, 05:54:36 PM
When both amazon and walmart accept it, all the previous merchants are big for us, but tiny compared to amazon/walmart, they do like 1% of their sales volume.

Amazon $75 billion per year.
NewEgg $3 billion per year.

So, more than 1%.  Closer to 3%-4%.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: silversmith on July 04, 2014, 05:21:10 PM
According to bitcoinrichlist.com there are only 1.1 million wallets with more than 0.01 BTC in them($6.35 USD at time of writing.) I would think there would need to be 100+ million wallets with more than 0.01 BTC before it is "mainstream."


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: JypsiCreme on July 07, 2014, 08:13:57 AM
when you'll be able pay taxes in BTC


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on July 08, 2014, 04:45:20 AM
when you'll be able pay taxes in BTC

Tax again?
I thought bitcoin helps get rid of tax


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: Light on July 08, 2014, 04:56:49 AM
Tax again?
I thought bitcoin helps get rid of tax

Actually in all likelihood Bitcoin will not get rid of tax. It's simply far too necessary for the government and if it faces a threat it will legislate to find a means to keep the taxation system. While the idea of no tax sounds nice, how would you like a broke government that cannot afford education spending, road spending, infrastructure or any form of social security. Sadly taxes are the fundamental source of revenue for any and all governments.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: QuestionAuthority on July 08, 2014, 05:04:02 AM
When there are more people spending them than there are hoarding them.


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: maurya78 on July 08, 2014, 05:05:40 AM
I think 100m downloaded wallets or thereabouts

Where are we now on that metric, does anybody know?


Title: Re: What is the critical point above which bitcoin is officially mainstream?
Post by: beetcoin on July 08, 2014, 05:27:39 AM
when wallstreet comes in and the ETF.. you'll have solid options for your portfolio, and a lot of money will start pouring in.