Title: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: poncom on July 03, 2014, 07:29:55 PM What happens to the silk road bitcoins after the trial?
If a defendant is found guilty, don't they get a chance to appeal? It there is an appeal, then is the US government legally allowed to auction the bitcoins they still have before the verdict? How many appeals is someone likely to be allowed? There must be a legal expert among us who knows the answers. Title: Re: What happens to the silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: RiverBoatBTC on July 03, 2014, 07:30:29 PM Returned or sold only two options.
Title: Re: What happens to the silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: poncom on July 03, 2014, 07:31:47 PM Returned or sold only two options. What happens during an appeal against the verdict? Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: RiverBoatBTC on July 03, 2014, 07:34:17 PM They will just be held till final deposition.
Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: Mrrr on July 03, 2014, 07:36:11 PM Does the FBI have access to the remaining wallets in the first place? (sorry if I missed the news)
Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: poncom on July 03, 2014, 07:37:03 PM They will just be held till final deposition. What's the maximum amount of time that could take? Sometimes appeals drag on forever, and keep getting moved to a higher court for another appeal after each verdict. Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: RiverBoatBTC on July 03, 2014, 07:46:04 PM They will just be held till final deposition. What's the maximum amount of time that could take? Sometimes appeals drag on forever, and keep getting moved to a higher court for another appeal after each verdict. Only time can tell, but the chances of the coins being sold is high. They have a group of nerds right now tracking the coins I am sure and if they were ever moved out of SR I am sure they will be sold. Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: poncom on July 03, 2014, 07:48:17 PM Does the FBI have access to the remaining wallets in the first place? (sorry if I missed the news) The dailydot.com website says they have access to the remaining wallets and put all the coins in the address linked to below. https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH The Bitcoin address now known as DPR Seized Coins finished receiving the mass of cryptocurrency early this morning, an FBI official told Greenberg. http://www.dailydot.com/crime/fbi-bitcoin-seized-28-million-silk-road-ulbricht/ Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: poncom on July 03, 2014, 07:50:09 PM They will just be held till final deposition. What's the maximum amount of time that could take? Sometimes appeals drag on forever, and keep getting moved to a higher court for another appeal after each verdict. Only time can tell, but the chances of the coins being sold is high. They have a group of nerds right now tracking the coins I am sure and if they were ever moved out of SR I am sure they will be sold. I'm just wondering if there is a possibility the appeals process could result in the remaining coins being held in limbo for years. Title: Re: What happens to the silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: Beliathon on July 03, 2014, 08:52:04 PM I'm just wondering if there is a possibility the appeals process could result in the remaining coins being held in limbo for years. That is sort of the best case scenario for Ulbricht, sadly.Returned or sold only two options. What happens during an appeal against the verdict? What, did you think there would be justice for anyone going up against the state? Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: LiteCoinGuy on July 03, 2014, 09:00:52 PM i guess satoshi will collect them via his magic key
Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: RDMINER on July 03, 2014, 09:15:25 PM Does the FBI have access to the remaining wallets in the first place? (sorry if I missed the news) The dailydot.com website says they have access to the remaining wallets and put all the coins in the address linked to below. https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH The Bitcoin address now known as DPR Seized Coins finished receiving the mass of cryptocurrency early this morning, an FBI official told Greenberg. http://www.dailydot.com/crime/fbi-bitcoin-seized-28-million-silk-road-ulbricht/ Title: Re: What happens to the silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: InwardContour on July 03, 2014, 10:08:21 PM I'm just wondering if there is a possibility the appeals process could result in the remaining coins being held in limbo for years. That is sort of the best case scenario for Ulbricht, sadly.It should be very interesting to see just how much evidence is actually against him and how the evidence was found. Once the verdict in his criminal trial is finalized (appeals have been exhausted) the civil case regarding his personal coins should be pretty straightforward. Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: poncom on July 03, 2014, 10:12:54 PM Can you give an rough estimate of the maximum amount of time that appealing a guilty verdict could take?
How long do you think the maximum time will be before the government can auction the bitcoins? Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: LouReed on July 03, 2014, 10:13:33 PM The rest of the Bitcoin are the ones that they took from Ross himself, not Silk Road. He has filed a motion to have them returned to him, claiming that they were his personal Bitcoin, and had nothing to do with Silk Road.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/12/25/ross-ulbricht-im-not-the-dread-pirate-roberts-but-the-bitcoins-are-still-mine/ Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: QuestionAuthority on July 03, 2014, 10:16:08 PM Does the FBI have access to the remaining wallets in the first place? (sorry if I missed the news) The dailydot.com website says they have access to the remaining wallets and put all the coins in the address linked to below. https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH The Bitcoin address now known as DPR Seized Coins finished receiving the mass of cryptocurrency early this morning, an FBI official told Greenberg. http://www.dailydot.com/crime/fbi-bitcoin-seized-28-million-silk-road-ulbricht/ If they sent you a suitcase of cash you could spend it but bitcoin is traceable. Shortly after you set up an account somewhere to spend it you would get a knock on the door. I doubt you could even move very much of them on localbitcoins before you're sitting across a coffee shop table from a fed trying to buy them from you. One of the great features of Bitcoin is the permanent record. Title: Re: What happens to the silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: Swordsoffreedom on July 03, 2014, 10:45:38 PM Returned or sold only two options. Pretty much or the very small chance the government chooses to confiscate them and keep them for themselves instead of selling them off Treating them as a reserve of sorts 8) Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: Nerazzura on July 04, 2014, 05:57:42 AM What happens to the silk road bitcoins after the trial? If a defendant is found guilty, don't they get a chance to appeal? It there is an appeal, then is the US government legally allowed to auction the bitcoins they still have before the verdict? How many appeals is someone likely to be allowed? There must be a legal expert among us who knows the answers. appeal arise because one or both parties are not willing to accept what was decided by the district court judge / court religion. the process: those who do not accept the contents of the decision within 14 days shall state appealed to the clerk of the district court / religion. after the parties that the appeal must be filed nai "memory appeal" contains things that makes anything she does not want to accept the decision. delivered to the clerk of the district court / religion to be forwarded to the High Court in order to be processed. The process of examination of the case in the High Court only examine the docket that in devolved to the high court by the district court / religion. long time until there is a decision of the high court is relative, depending on the density of matter that in check. -More technical details can ask the court clerk. : P. Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: Harley997 on July 04, 2014, 04:54:49 PM Does the FBI have access to the remaining wallets in the first place? (sorry if I missed the news) The dailydot.com website says they have access to the remaining wallets and put all the coins in the address linked to below. https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH The Bitcoin address now known as DPR Seized Coins finished receiving the mass of cryptocurrency early this morning, an FBI official told Greenberg. http://www.dailydot.com/crime/fbi-bitcoin-seized-28-million-silk-road-ulbricht/ If they sent you a suitcase of cash you could spend it but bitcoin is traceable. Shortly after you set up an account somewhere to spend it you would get a knock on the door. I doubt you could even move very much of them on localbitcoins before you're sitting across a coffee shop table from a fed trying to buy them from you. One of the great features of Bitcoin is the permanent record. Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: QuestionAuthority on July 04, 2014, 05:59:54 PM Does the FBI have access to the remaining wallets in the first place? (sorry if I missed the news) The dailydot.com website says they have access to the remaining wallets and put all the coins in the address linked to below. https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH The Bitcoin address now known as DPR Seized Coins finished receiving the mass of cryptocurrency early this morning, an FBI official told Greenberg. http://www.dailydot.com/crime/fbi-bitcoin-seized-28-million-silk-road-ulbricht/ If they sent you a suitcase of cash you could spend it but bitcoin is traceable. Shortly after you set up an account somewhere to spend it you would get a knock on the door. I doubt you could even move very much of them on localbitcoins before you're sitting across a coffee shop table from a fed trying to buy them from you. One of the great features of Bitcoin is the permanent record. Lucy you got a lot a If you receive stolen coins can you spend them? Can you keep and spend money that fell out of a Brinks truck or an armored US mint truck? Hum, I'm not sure. Receiving stolen property is a crime but are Bitcoins property? Spending marked $100 bills that were stolen in a bank robbery even if you aren't the robber will get you some jail time but are Bitcoins currency? I don't think I'd like to be the guinea pig. You go first. I'll send cigarettes to you at Guantanamo if they decide not to prosecute you at all. Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: Ron~Popeil on July 04, 2014, 06:22:26 PM Does the FBI have access to the remaining wallets in the first place? (sorry if I missed the news) The dailydot.com website says they have access to the remaining wallets and put all the coins in the address linked to below. https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH The Bitcoin address now known as DPR Seized Coins finished receiving the mass of cryptocurrency early this morning, an FBI official told Greenberg. http://www.dailydot.com/crime/fbi-bitcoin-seized-28-million-silk-road-ulbricht/ If they sent you a suitcase of cash you could spend it but bitcoin is traceable. Shortly after you set up an account somewhere to spend it you would get a knock on the door. I doubt you could even move very much of them on localbitcoins before you're sitting across a coffee shop table from a fed trying to buy them from you. One of the great features of Bitcoin is the permanent record. They can always find a case against you. Federal laws and regulations are so vast and unreadable that most average people commit crimes everyday in their everyday life. The key is to avoid their radar and not become a target. Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: aBITfedUP on July 04, 2014, 07:16:27 PM Quote They can always find a case against you. Federal laws and regulations are so vast and unreadable that most average people commit crimes everyday in their everyday life. The key is to avoid their radar and not become a target. There is even a book about it http://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229/ (http://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229/) Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: Harley997 on July 04, 2014, 10:43:05 PM Does the FBI have access to the remaining wallets in the first place? (sorry if I missed the news) The dailydot.com website says they have access to the remaining wallets and put all the coins in the address linked to below. https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH The Bitcoin address now known as DPR Seized Coins finished receiving the mass of cryptocurrency early this morning, an FBI official told Greenberg. http://www.dailydot.com/crime/fbi-bitcoin-seized-28-million-silk-road-ulbricht/ If they sent you a suitcase of cash you could spend it but bitcoin is traceable. Shortly after you set up an account somewhere to spend it you would get a knock on the door. I doubt you could even move very much of them on localbitcoins before you're sitting across a coffee shop table from a fed trying to buy them from you. One of the great features of Bitcoin is the permanent record. They can always find a case against you. Federal laws and regulations are so vast and unreadable that most average people commit crimes everyday in their everyday life. The key is to avoid their radar and not become a target. Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: InwardContour on July 05, 2014, 03:00:56 AM Does the FBI have access to the remaining wallets in the first place? (sorry if I missed the news) The dailydot.com website says they have access to the remaining wallets and put all the coins in the address linked to below. https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH The Bitcoin address now known as DPR Seized Coins finished receiving the mass of cryptocurrency early this morning, an FBI official told Greenberg. http://www.dailydot.com/crime/fbi-bitcoin-seized-28-million-silk-road-ulbricht/ Ha! I checked out the Blockchain.info link to the DPR address 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH. It appears a few random people have sent small amounts of btc to that address for the hell of it. Most appear to be transfers of 0.001 btc. Think I am going to send 0.001337 btc over just for the hell of it ^.^ Title: Re: What happens to the remaining silk road bitcoins after the trial? Post by: Swordsoffreedom on July 07, 2014, 08:02:28 AM Does the FBI have access to the remaining wallets in the first place? (sorry if I missed the news) The dailydot.com website says they have access to the remaining wallets and put all the coins in the address linked to below. https://blockchain.info/de/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH The Bitcoin address now known as DPR Seized Coins finished receiving the mass of cryptocurrency early this morning, an FBI official told Greenberg. http://www.dailydot.com/crime/fbi-bitcoin-seized-28-million-silk-road-ulbricht/ Ha! I checked out the Blockchain.info link to the DPR address 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH. It appears a few random people have sent small amounts of btc to that address for the hell of it. Most appear to be transfers of 0.001 btc. Think I am going to send 0.001337 btc over just for the hell of it ^.^ It's also kind of funny that one can consider them as donations to the government They have a nice little balance growing although it does make for a nice place to put a dedicated advertisement that targets Bitcoin users |