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Title: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are
Post by: TheIrishman on July 06, 2014, 05:34:37 AM
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-nsa-intercepted-data-those-not-targeted-far-outnumber-the-foreigners-who-are/2014/07/05/8139adf8-045a-11e4-8572-4b1b969b6322_story.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/in-nsa-intercepted-data-those-not-targeted-far-outnumber-the-foreigners-who-are/2014/07/05/8139adf8-045a-11e4-8572-4b1b969b6322_story.html)

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Title: Re: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are
Post by: TheIrishman on July 06, 2014, 05:37:05 AM
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NSA intercepts: ordinary internet users "far outnumbered" legal targets

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/06/nsa-intercepts-ordinary-internet-users-outnumbered-legal-targets (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/06/nsa-intercepts-ordinary-internet-users-outnumbered-legal-targets)

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Title: Re: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are
Post by: arbitrage001 on July 06, 2014, 07:43:23 AM
There are many level of espionage.  The methods the government using right now is borderline idiocy.

When a person of interest know someone is listening and watching his every move and conversation, do you think he will be honest or will he introduce false information to misdirect the eavesdropper?

Resources going into espionage are better spend fixing underlining problem than provoking your enemy and violating international law.


Title: Re: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are
Post by: Chef Ramsay on July 06, 2014, 06:02:52 PM
The NSA's job is to categorize political dissidents, among others, not necessarily to do their billed job of stopping terrorism. Terrorism is a ruse to clamp down on liberty and at some point, this will manifest itself.


Title: Re: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are
Post by: arbitrage001 on July 08, 2014, 03:53:19 AM
The NSA's job is to categorize political dissidents, among others, not necessarily to do their billed job of stopping terrorism. Terrorism is a ruse to clamp down on liberty and at some point, this will manifest itself.

"v for vendetta" is a good movie depicting this.



Title: Re: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are
Post by: DannyElfman on July 10, 2014, 02:54:47 AM
There are many level of espionage.  The methods the government using right now is borderline idiocy.

When a person of interest know someone is listening and watching his every move and conversation, do you think he will be honest or will he introduce false information to misdirect the eavesdropper?
One goal of many of the programs that the NSA employed were to keep the program somewhat a secret, or at least keep the scope of the programs a secret. If someone does not know an attacker is listening to them (and thinks that an attacker is not listening in) then they would have no reason to provide misinformation.


Title: Re: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are
Post by: Honeypot on July 10, 2014, 09:36:31 AM
No, of course an intelligence organ should never find out intelligence about foreigners! How dare they carry out their primary mission!

Are you fucking high?


Title: Re: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are
Post by: cech4204a on July 10, 2014, 10:56:46 AM
I didn't understand a word in this news, can someone explain me this in simple way? Snowdens files show that there are 90% of people that are under controll by the NSA ?


Title: Re: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are
Post by: TheIrishman on July 11, 2014, 05:56:32 AM
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The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/11/the-ultimate-goal-of-the-nsa-is-total-population-control (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/11/the-ultimate-goal-of-the-nsa-is-total-population-control)

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