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Title: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: adamstgBit on March 08, 2012, 10:26:55 PM


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: waveaddict on March 08, 2012, 10:29:02 PM
what about libertarianism

...that or Ron Paul-ism  ;)


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: teflone on March 08, 2012, 10:29:06 PM
Coronal mass ejection.... its THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!!


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: kronosvl on March 08, 2012, 10:32:05 PM
As far as I know socialism and capitalism are economic systems/models while communism, democracy are political.
Is there any country with democracy and socialism implemented?


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: adamstgBit on March 08, 2012, 10:36:35 PM
As far as I know socialism and capitalism are economic systems/models while communism, democracy are political.
Is there any country with democracy and socialism implemented?

Canada?

we are socialist, and we like to think our votes count for something


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: waveaddict on March 08, 2012, 10:37:24 PM
yeah, the choices really didn't match the question all that well

As far as I know socialism and capitalism are economic systems/models while communism, democracy are political.
Is there any country with democracy and socialism implemented?


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: adamstgBit on March 08, 2012, 10:41:42 PM
yeah, the choices really didn't match the question all that well

As far as I know socialism and capitalism are economic systems/models while communism, democracy are political.
Is there any country with democracy and socialism implemented?

right, thanks



Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: teflone on March 08, 2012, 10:42:18 PM
We are just humble Canadians, we live in igloos and light our houses with whale oil.....

Oh, and we all have a serious addiction to the internet...


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: ineededausername on March 08, 2012, 10:43:37 PM
we have two socialists?  That's odd.


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: copumpkin on March 08, 2012, 11:01:07 PM
we have two socialists?  That's odd.

Sorry, I thought it said socalist, and I was like, "like, I am so totally a socalist" so I picked that one.


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: Qoheleth on March 08, 2012, 11:36:04 PM
My political views are complicated, and currently lean towards sortition-based democracy.

My economic views see markets as a tool - an approach which, while cool and useful in the general, has certain shortcomings which make it inapplicable to many of the big problems.


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: adamstgBit on March 08, 2012, 11:44:09 PM
Don't let the Anarchists win

Vote Socialist  :D

i guess its not surprising how many people dont care for politics.. in today's world its complete BS. we are given a vote, to make us feel in control, but we all know who what controls the world.... money

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Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: Vandroiy on March 09, 2012, 01:44:31 PM
My political views are complicated, and currently lean towards sortition-based democracy.

My economic views see markets as a tool - an approach which, while cool and useful in the general, has certain shortcomings which make it inapplicable to many of the big problems.

That. Though I would use slightly different wording: the market is a tool that needs to be set up correctly, otherwise it will develop undesired behavior.

Since anyone understanding that should hate the broken dynamics that appear in both centralization of the economy and problem-solving (socialists) and insufficient rule-sets (anarchy). So there are only two correct answers:

"other" or "libertarian," depending on how flexible one defines libertarianism.

Sadly, the world doesn't give a shit about correct answers. Very especially if the relevant time-scale exceeds a few years.


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: ElectricMucus on March 09, 2012, 07:56:15 PM
I didn't expect that result.

Interestingly if Anarchists were to educate everybody who doesn't care and they would join it would have the majority :o (Not any more at the time of writing it was  ::) )
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Since anyone understanding that should hate the broken dynamics that appear in both centralization of the economy and problem-solving (socialists) and insufficient rule-sets (anarchy). So there are only two correct answers:

"other" or "libertarian," depending on how flexible one defines libertarianism.
From my world view those terms are as appropriate as it gets.

But I can't be objective as a primitivist anarchist rooted in futurism.  ;)


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: qo on March 10, 2012, 03:00:41 AM
What?  No option for Monarchy?  You know, for completeness...not that I'd pick it, unless I got to be the king.

http://www.quantumonion.com/images/GoodToBeTheKing.png


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: kangasbros on March 10, 2012, 01:37:36 PM
i guess its not surprising how many people dont care for politics.. in today's world its complete BS. we are given a vote, to make us feel in control, but we all know who what controls the world.... money

Well, I don't care about politics because I think it is a very inefficient way to change the world. Much better way to change the worls is through developing & promoting new technologies. Such as bitcoin.


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: stochastic on March 10, 2012, 02:43:31 PM
My political views are complicated, and currently lean towards sortition-based democracy.


There is someone else like me!  Our sample size has increased!


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: Spekulatius on March 10, 2012, 05:57:25 PM
I hope nobody expects a half reliable outcome from this vote about bitcoiners general political views (I wont go into detail why this vote is too random). But to make it more "representative" lets add "conservative", "green", "communist" and "national socialistic".

For the record: Socialism is a political AND economical idea, same goes for communism.


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: Crypt_Current on March 12, 2012, 04:04:52 AM
Dear adamamsdflskdfsotoibutiggit,

how about a "technology will render nationalism and therefore politics obsolete" option?


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: adamstgBit on March 12, 2012, 04:21:40 AM
Dear adamamsdflskdfsotoibutiggit,

how about a "technology will render nationalism and therefore politics obsolete" option?

I'd be most specif

the internet will create is creating a new nationalism with strong / accurate political ideologies
current politics will slowly be assimilated into this new political ideology


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: Crypt_Current on March 12, 2012, 04:26:26 AM
Dear adamamsdflskdfsotoibutiggit,

how about a "technology will render nationalism and therefore politics obsolete" option?

I'd be most specif

the internet will create is creating a new nationalism with strong / accurate political ideologies
current politics will slowly be assimilated into this new political ideology

Well then sir you might as well add Catholicism to the list.


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: adamstgBit on March 12, 2012, 04:33:01 AM
Dear adamamsdflskdfsotoibutiggit,

how about a "technology will render nationalism and therefore politics obsolete" option?

I'd be most specif

the internet will create is creating a new nationalism with strong / accurate political ideologies
current politics will slowly be assimilated into this new political ideology

Well then sir you might as well add Catholicism to the list.

Catholicism = Christian Church ???

why is this relevant?


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: Crypt_Current on March 12, 2012, 05:07:37 AM
Dear adamamsdflskdfsotoibutiggit,

how about a "technology will render nationalism and therefore politics obsolete" option?

I'd be most specif

the internet will create is creating a new nationalism with strong / accurate political ideologies
current politics will slowly be assimilated into this new political ideology

Well then sir you might as well add Catholicism to the list.

Catholicism = Christian Church ???

why is this relevant?

It's an -ism.  And I see nationalism ending up something like religion is now:  something people will hold on to for whatever reason, but will be basically impotent.


Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: adamstgBit on March 12, 2012, 06:38:22 AM
Dear adamamsdflskdfsotoibutiggit,

how about a "technology will render nationalism and therefore politics obsolete" option?

I'd be most specif

the internet will create is creating a new nationalism with strong / accurate political ideologies
current politics will slowly be assimilated into this new political ideology

Well then sir you might as well add Catholicism to the list.

Catholicism = Christian Church ???

why is this relevant?

It's an -ism.  And I see nationalism ending up something like religion is now:  something people will hold on to for whatever reason, but will be basically impotent.

this is closely related a though i expressed the other day
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68168.0


I believe the internet is creating a new nationalism

I believe the next few decade will be a moment in history known as an awakening

I believe in god, but my god is a fucking TROLL and is constantly testing me with have baked thoughts for me to sort out

please people of the internet, help my figure it out!  should i buy or sell bitcoins?  :P


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Title: Re: [Daily Speculation Poll] :: A bitcoiners political view
Post by: Crypt_Current on March 12, 2012, 07:14:18 AM

I believe in god, but my god is a fucking TROLL and is constantly testing me with have baked thoughts for me to sort out



It's just the higher dimensional beings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_elves) fucking with you like you are a character in their version of a game of Sims.  Let them know you know -- just don't drive yourself "insane" doing so.