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Title: Obama The Dictator: I don't need congressional approval to wage war.
Post by: Jon on March 08, 2012, 11:04:27 PM
http://www.libertariannews.org/2012/03/08/obama-admin-says-it-doesnt-need-congressional-approval-to-wage-war/

Instead, his crony says he gets his approval from international bodies such as the UN. New World Order anyone?

I expect calls for impeachment soon.


Title: Re: Obama The Dictator: I don't need congressional approval to wage war.
Post by: Fizzgig on March 09, 2012, 04:51:54 AM
If he doesn't get approval, blame shit on foreigners, approval granted. Law is facade.


Title: Re: Obama The Dictator: I don't need congressional approval to wage war.
Post by: ctoon6 on March 09, 2012, 07:23:47 AM
When was the last time congress voted for war? Was it WWII?


Title: Re: Obama The Dictator: I don't need congressional approval to wage war.
Post by: BadBear on March 09, 2012, 01:02:05 PM
I expect calls for impeachment soon.

You're so naive, it's precious.


Title: Re: Obama The Dictator: I don't need congressional approval to wage war.
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on March 09, 2012, 01:08:45 PM
I expect calls for impeachment soon.

You're so naive, it's precious.

The most naive part being that he thinks the President has -anything- to do with the government. It's run by the military. Everything else is a charade.


Title: Re: Obama The Dictator: I don't need congressional approval to wage war.
Post by: cbeast on March 09, 2012, 01:30:45 PM
When was the last time congress voted for war? Was it WWII?
This. When people tried to protest Bush's illegal wars he installed "Free Speech Zones." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone)


Title: Re: Obama The Dictator: I don't need congressional approval to wage war.
Post by: RodeoX on March 09, 2012, 02:36:18 PM
A "new world order"? Oh, I would love that! In fact any sort of order in the world would be great.


Title: Re: Obama The Dictator: I don't need congressional approval to wage war.
Post by: Jon on March 09, 2012, 05:42:53 PM
I expect calls for impeachment soon.

You're so naive, it's precious.

The most naive part being that he thinks the President has -anything- to do with the government. It's run by the military. Everything else is a charade.

The President is the commander-in-chief of the military, Matthew. I had to recite the chain-of-command more times than you can count. I was in JROTC. This isn't Asia. No he isn't just a figure-head. He has more influence than you can imagine considering his main benefactor is Goldman Sachs.



Title: Re: Obama The Dictator: I don't need congressional approval to wage war.
Post by: benjamindees on March 10, 2012, 08:32:04 AM
For those of you too young to know any recent history...

Clinton bombed Serbia in an undeclared "NATO action" during the Kosovo War, citing the typical liberal talking points of international cooperation and peacekeeping.  Republicans feigned outrage at this, warned of international bodies giving orders to the US military, and used it to drum up support for his impeachment.  In '99, candidate George Bush seized the opportunity to campaign on the notion that the US should not be involved in "nation building" and criticized using the military for purposes that did not warrant our strategic interest.  When his father's buddies did 9/11, Bush, poor stooge that he was, apparently felt the best way to uphold this campaign promise was to waste a trillion dollars destroying Iraq, and then simply not re-build it.  To his credit, he did get Congressional approval at least first though.

So, the moral of this story is:  don't vote.


Title: Re: Obama The Dictator: I don't need congressional approval to wage war.
Post by: Rassah on March 11, 2012, 08:04:18 PM
This is just Republicans reaping what they sowed (and allowed to exist) back when Bush was in power, back when they thought only "good patriotic republicans" will ever hold the presidency :/