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Title: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: notbatman on July 07, 2014, 04:42:51 AM
Somebody has mentioned that ASICs emit dangerous levels of radiation. Can anybody confirm or deny this?

I hope he was talking about non-ionizing radiation.

EDIT:

Have they started adding WiFi to the chips? 


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: bitmarket.io on July 07, 2014, 05:03:41 AM
probably blackarrow's stuff. everything is toxic about them and their sellers.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: CoinsCoinsEverywhere on July 07, 2014, 07:04:56 AM
Somebody has mentioned that ASICs emit dangerous levels of radiation. Can anybody confirm or deny this?

I hope he was talking about non-ionizing radiation.

EDIT:

Have they started adding WiFi to the chips? 

I would certainly hope not considering ASICs are everywhere--computer processors, GPU cards, cell phones...most electronic devices have at least one.  ASICs are just integrated circuit chips.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: notbatman on July 07, 2014, 07:29:31 AM
He provided a link.

http://thecoinfront.com/chinese-bitcoin-miner-catches-leukemia-was-his-miner-to-blame/


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: notbatman on July 07, 2014, 07:40:55 AM
Somebody has mentioned that ASICs emit dangerous levels of radiation. Can anybody confirm or deny this?

I hope he was talking about non-ionizing radiation.

EDIT:

Have they started adding WiFi to the chips? 

I would certainly hope not considering ASICs are everywhere--computer processors, GPU cards, cell phones...most electronic devices have at least one.  ASICs are just integrated circuit chips.

Current Bitcoin miners can draw as much as 2500W. Perhaps with the extra power the normally insignificant amount of radiation they emit is boosted to got nukes levels.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: notbatman on July 07, 2014, 07:47:28 AM
On a somewhat related topic I wonder how cost effective a small nuclear power source would be in powering ASICs.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on July 07, 2014, 07:53:05 AM
On a somewhat related topic I wonder how cost effective a small nuclear power source would be in powering ASICs.
If you are dead from radiation poisoning before the miner sends a share, not much.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: notbatman on July 07, 2014, 08:09:53 AM
On a somewhat related topic I wonder how cost effective a small nuclear power source would be in powering ASICs.
If you are dead from radiation poisoning before the miner sends a share, not much.

You're exaggerating the dangers here. Over the course of a year say 100kW for a modestly sized ASIC farm really costs a lot of money. I'm sure there's a power useage level where nuclear is a viable option.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: notbatman on July 07, 2014, 08:27:41 AM
Looks like the power can be built right into the ASIC.

http://www.citylabs.net/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=20

"power for twenty years or more"

EDIT:

If ASICSs are already cranking out the radiation why not go for broke?

Also, if these guys are selling them on pre-order don't do it!

http://venturebeat.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/nanotritium-battery.jpg?w=300&h=148


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: HashFarmer on July 07, 2014, 08:45:30 AM
Somebody has mentioned that ASICs emit dangerous levels of radiation. Can anybody confirm or deny this?

I hope he was talking about non-ionizing radiation.

EDIT:

Have they started adding WiFi to the chips? 

Yes, asic does emit radiation but not high enough for it to be dangerous. You can buy a radiation detector if you are really concern.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: Balthazar on July 07, 2014, 08:50:25 AM
Somebody has mentioned that ASICs emit dangerous levels of radiation. Can anybody confirm or deny this?
Nope, if your ASIC device isn't called like VVER-1000.

http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/ris-stat/4203/picture.jpg


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: ALToids on July 07, 2014, 11:29:36 AM
The radiation isn't as dangerous and the fumes that are emitted by the heated electronics.  You can smell the chemicals in the air if you walk into a room full of hot GPUs.  Those chemicals are known carcinogens.  One card mining probably won't kill you, 35 mining next to your bed 24/7 might be enough to trigger cancer.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: grue on July 07, 2014, 03:56:55 PM
He provided a link.

http://thecoinfront.com/chinese-bitcoin-miner-catches-leukemia-was-his-miner-to-blame/
im not even going to read it because it's obviously sensationalist click bait


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: cookmac on July 07, 2014, 04:05:26 PM
Somebody has mentioned that ASICs emit dangerous levels of radiation. Can anybody confirm or deny this?
Nope, if your ASIC device isn't called like VVER-1000.

http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/ris-stat/4203/picture.jpg

That blue core reminds me of how iron man made his energy source lol.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: bittawm on July 08, 2014, 02:25:33 AM
I am worried about my family's safety

are the KnC asics dangerous?

how is the testing process?



Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: Bitcoin Magazine on July 08, 2014, 03:39:53 AM
Is S3 safer than S1 due to shield?


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: bittawm on July 08, 2014, 05:03:26 AM
people we need to get onto this!


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: ALToids on July 08, 2014, 07:57:08 AM
Just wrap everything in tin foil and duct tape, that will stop the Gaussian field from generating.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: shogdite on July 08, 2014, 09:49:31 AM
Hmm think this is just scaremongering, really cant see them emitting that much radiation. If you are that worried you could just stick the asic out in your garage.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: notbatman on July 08, 2014, 09:55:13 AM
http://seattleareahomeinspector.com/image_store/uploads/5/8/6/7/4/ar137407108647685.jpg


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: Bitcoin Magazine on July 08, 2014, 10:10:04 AM
so BBTCitcoin mining is supposed to make one immune and immortal?  sign me up


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: notbatman on July 08, 2014, 10:58:50 AM
I think Tritium is the prophesied hydrogen economy of the future. It glows (indirectly) and it produces power for 20 years. $30,000 a gram it's worth today.

EDIT:
I was pleasantly surprised to find that I can buy nuclear powered lights for under $50 on ebay.

http://www.dudeiwantthat.com/style/design/tritium-keychains-6058.jpg


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: Acidyo on July 08, 2014, 11:15:29 AM
so BBTCitcoin mining is supposed to make one immune and immortal?  sign me up

Block-chain, making transactions and humans stay forever.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: Kluge on July 08, 2014, 11:38:06 AM
Check for FCC sticker if in US. You're probably "reasonably safe." If no FCC sticker and they sold to you in the US, try to accumulate and run as many as you can -- the lawsuit from your death will feed your family for generations even if the bitcoins won't. Think of it as hedging.


Title: Re: ASICs and Radiation
Post by: CoinsCoinsEverywhere on July 09, 2014, 07:58:47 AM
He provided a link.

http://thecoinfront.com/chinese-bitcoin-miner-catches-leukemia-was-his-miner-to-blame/

That article is worthless sensationalism.  The basic logic there is that a guy got leukemia and he owns a miner, therefore the miner must have caused his leukemia.  By that logic, I got a cold and I own a miner, so my miner must have given me a cold.  There's no substance whatsoever there.  How many rig owners haven't gotten leukemia?

Aside from that, ASICs certainly do give off some electromagnetic (EM) radiation because any electric current flow generates an EM field.  But it's low-power, localized, and non-ionizing.  Not to mention that most if not all of it is likely blocked by the metal casing the chips are likely in.  The radiation from your cell phone is much more dangerous than anything emitted by an ASIC.