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So...I had couple of BTC on Just-Dice, couple of BTC in PRCdice (yeah what the hell there), and still some in a couple other casinos...however, I don't trust them more then their currently already invested with.

I want to know where to invest now? What are you guys using your BTC to invest in now? If you tell me the next Marijuana growing business or porn Kyle run site investment BTC stock, shoot yourself now. Please.

If you've been a business here for less then 6 months, don't you dare advertisement your investment here either. You're still most likely going to run with our coins at some point.

EDIT: I see that Bitcoinvideopoker or whatever its called is for sale. I wish I could buy it, it really looks nice and has lot of long-standing customers. Be nice if they sold stock of that site in full so they're out of the water so to speak.

I think what you are looking for does not exist at the moment. Just Dice was the best investment but now is down too.

There is always going to be a high risk factor, even with sites that have been around longer than 6 months. Being a good investor means you will be able to spot the great sites before they become popular and expensive to gain shares in.

Is Bitcoinvideopoker still up for sale? I am looking into buying a site as long as it is in functioning order. Do you know of any?

Taking an advice here , might turn into nightmare . But when you ask " Where to invest now ?" what is the exact amount of investment you are talking about [I know it would be hard to answer here] ...? as you mentioned you have your btc in different dice sites but not the approx amount of btc you got on these sites , any suggestion without knowing the capital sounds absurd to me.
 But anyway I'll suggest to put it into some real business out there to support and improve bitcoin ecosystem :) if you have that much capital with you. or team up with someone else.

PRCDice / Pocketrocketcasino

Dicenow

Satoshicarnaval

Maybe not at this moment.
PRCDice had a flawed coding, and is now fixing the issue and reverting the bets...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=663326.100

Check there:
https://cryptostocks.com/securities

That's a lot of projects.

Regards.

Generally those are only good for throwing away coin.

Here:  :)

http://www.bitcointrust.co/

Regards.

You could convert it over to dogecoin, and then invest at bitzillions...

http://bitzillions.com/satoshibones/doge/stake

But then your payout would be in dogecoin...lol

I invested in the bitcoin stake awhile back, haven't hit ROI yet, but it pays monthly.  :)

The thing that made Just-Dice (and Doge-Dice) such locks was Dooglus' rock solid reputation.  Until another member of the community comes through in similar style (or dooglus starts a new venture) I think you are just going to have to be patient.  Maybe you could approach Stunna about backing his dice site, though he has repeatedly said he does not want investors, though he does seem to be building dooglus level credibility.

Good Luck!

So when are you expecting it to ROI? Also how long have you been in?

I have been in since October with 0.15 btc, giving me 0.006% stake in the bitcoin part of the site.

My returns so far 0.03210633 btc... so I might be looking at 4 years before ROI.

Yikes...:o never actually added it all up before...

Not a huge amount of invested bitcoin though, I've gambled away far more...lol

We've added yesterday invest option to https://www.dogedice.me/ and I invite everyone to join the biggest Dogecoin dice site (After DD of course).

We are first comparing to everyone else on wagered amount. (according to http://cryptobettingindex.com/)

Almost 5 Million bets, 3.5 Billion wagered coins, 32 Million house profit.

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> this is the insulting robot

> invest in robots

> alternatively invest in namecoin-domains

Currently the best bitcoin investment site>

http://www.coinminters.club/p/deposit-now.html (http://www.coinminters.club/p/deposit-now.html)

this sounds cool looking for a place to play with my dogecoins, how does the investment works?

Investing in Satoshicarnaval blows dick. Everyone bets so small and the mostly just use the faucet to gamble with. Plus they got fucking hacked, how much money have you made back since the hack? Cuase im talking Ive made back like 0.000001

  http://www.bitsweeps.com

  Launching in a few days but dice is working fine now.  Wait for the launch to enter the lottery however.

Bitcoin itself is a very strong investment. If you're investing with anyone other than doog it is probably a -EV move. There are too many ways for operators to swindle investors and nobody has a solid enough reputation or provable scheme to hold investments currently.

I'd just put your coins in coldstorage and check the price every month or so and watch your investment grow (at least in terms of $).

Here are my picks

Dicenow.com (Dice site that could do leverage, so i have less counterparty risk)
Snowball.io (far better price than CEX.IO, can even redeem miner)
BitVC (Collateral lending to HuoBI Chinese exchange)
Going LONG on Bitcoin (Bitcoin to the moon and I will be on Pluto)
My lovely cold wallet

Cex.io buying GHs

Enter IPOs like Crypti, SYSCOIN and get in coins like SIMCOIN, QORA, EMUNIE, FIMKRYPTO.

No idea about altcoin IPOs, but it is not a good idea to buy hashrate on cex IMHO due to the high price and terrible maintenance cost.

Only in bitcoins or other coins as well?

Put all in dice sites, that is the best investment you can find ATM, sorry to say, but best site for investment is down, so till it's back you can do alternatives.

But as you said JD is gone now, and I can't find any invest-able dice sites as trustworthy as JD... :(

CEX.IO GH is the most ridiculous price of hasing power you can ever get. And even better, now they charge friggin management fee

Play for BTC is not an investment.  ;DBut open your BTC casino quite good investment

Sad but true. Will always be Bitcoins strongest and weakest point. At least this will encourage companies to find innovative ways to show loyalty and credibility. At the moment, the community helping each other out by testing new sites and posting on here seem to work rather well. However it is not very efficient. :-\

Yeah the only way to profit there is by buying low and selling high the ghs but so the price is continuously going down is hard. triying to mine with the ghs is a waste of time, you never roi.

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king bud glad to see you are still around and doing well!!!

Have any one think about luna mining ?

Now the most alt-coin are premined isn't ?

I think Everydice destroyed any chances of new dice sites having an invest feature. Unless doog comes back, another site will have to prove its credibility and worth. Any ideas on how this can be done? ??? I think that is the million dollar question.

Hi everyone!

I'm announcing a new Dice site soon. I first started a 50/50 card guess game back in May 2013 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=218651.0). I then upgraded a few things, including adding an Invest option in November 2013 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=341438.msg3657339#msg3657339).

You can check those threads to see I've never scammed anyone. My sites got positive feedback, but I didn't realize people really wanted Dice games. Now that Just-Dice has closed (my inspiration for adding an Invest option) I've decided to try once again, this time with a Dice site.

The best feature will be the investment structure. In a nutshell it's possible for someone investing .1 BTC to earn the same as someone investing 1 BTC, and profits are assessed daily, so people don't have to leave long-term investment funds on site if they don't want to.

Should be announcing soon :)


I expect my new site to start off slowly, but as mentioned I do have a gaming history here which should provide some trust. My goal is to become as large as JD. Right now the biggest Dice site is PrimeDice, but they won't offer an invest option.

you can find all invest sites here




http://cryptobettingindex.com/dice-invest/



im working on the table tonight. it will be fully updated by sunrise

If you mean Gambling Site Invest, i think it's very hard. Even more than 6 months

I think this invest is very safe :
1. Cloud mining : PBMining.com / cex.io / lunamine.com
2. Enter IPO at altcoin
3. Sell your BTC at high prices

IPO on altcoin how do you get the coin they wont be on exchange site aren't they ?

It is very risky IMO to enter altcoin IPOs. Some altcoin IPOs are scams, some coins drop dead soon after IPO. :)

Sounds like a very good idea! The market is wide open for that now that JD is down as long as you have the needed trust. When do you expect to launch?

I'm pushing for this coming week :)

One of the key aspects of the site is investment range. Dooglus had a great idea creating the Invest in site's bankroll concept, but the problem I found was once Just-Dice became successful it was hard to make money. Larger investors arriving meant smaller amounts were no significant part of the bankroll percentage.

My innovative addition is letting investors tolerate higher potential losses in exchange for greater profit share. This means the site can achieve a large max bet with a smaller total bankroll, because some investors may be willing to risk more of their share of the bankroll to variance.

Unfortunately trust is very difficult to gain in this community. I doubt you will see many people excited about investing in a startup. Too many people have been scammed.

Also your investment option makes no sense. Logic dictates that the higher the investment the higher the return. Why would anyone invest 1 btc when they can get the same returns for less risk?

I'm hoping some trust can be built over time. Also, my investment structure makes it possible to invest less and still earn more.


I'm sorry I didn't explain it properly. A person investing .1 BTC can't get the same returns as someone investing 1 BTC unless they risk more. Below are more details:

Imagine Bob invests 10 BTC and Dave invests 1 BTC, and the casino makes 1 BTC profit. It's possible for Bob and Dave to share a 50/50 split
at .5 BTC each. This would be if Bob's "risk percent" was 1% and Dave's was 10%, meaning they have the same .1 player maximum bet per game.

Although Bob and Dave invest different amounts they share the same potential profit over a short period of time. However, Dave can
lose more faster. If the casino instead lost 1 BTC Dave would lose .5 BTC, or 50% his investment, while Bob loses .5 BTC which is only
5% of his 10 BTC investment.

Think about investing with leverage.

The more you leverage the bigger your risk, but the biggest your potential returns.

It sounds like he's saying you can invest 10 BTC with very little chance of losing it all, or invest 1 BTC with a relatively high change of losing it all, and get comparable returns on average.

Hey dooglus :)

As mentioned your pioneering investment model was my inspiration! I wouldn't say leverage is a good comparison. Leverage has a place in markets, but I don't particularly like it because people can become over-levered before realizing it. I guess similar to credit and debt. When margin calls come disaster strikes. It's easy to confuse other money (leverage) with one's own. In other words people buy what they really can't afford.

In my model you can't invest (or lose) over your balance. There is no leverage. However, you can risk anywhere from 1 to 10% of your balance toward max bet of the house. Everything investors risk, at various ranges, goes toward raising the house maximum profit per bet. So, for example, the scenario with Bob and Dave could be reversed, where Bob still invests 10 BTC and Dave invests 1 BTC, and the house wins (or loses) 1 BTC, but this time Bob's risk percent is 10% and Dave's is 1% meaning Bob would profit (or lose) .99 BTC and Dave profits (or loses) .0099 BTC. In this situation Bob controlled 99% of the house max bet which would be 1.01 BTC (the sum of Bob and Dave's risk stakes). He experiences profit/loss basically as if Dave isn't there.

In my model no matter what amount is invested, investors get a second variable to set, which is risk percent, allowing them to fine tune share of the site's profit/loss to their comfort level.

upbit.io

you can find all bitcoin investments program

If you are talking about investing in Gambling sites that are older than 6 months old, no one has mentioned Casino Bitcoin on this thread yet. They are traded on Havelock Investments, you can read their financials, business plans, and they post regular updates (financial profit and loss every second week and a monthly report) .

Might be worth checking out (also some other relatively interesting companies listed on Havelock outside of the gambling space) - https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=CBTC

This one sounds painful:


You don't have any of the dice sites listed, do you?

It looks like all the programs listed could be HYIP/Ponzi type schemes.