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Title: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: wobber on July 10, 2014, 10:26:48 AM
Check this graph on Tradeview, made by levi.grant

https://www.tradingview.com/v/TaXhiCbu/

He basically sais:

We are running into strong support at about 610, and possibly a double bottom on BTC-E and Bitfinex. If it makes it past these levels, watch out because that would indicate to me that the bull run has turned bear and would threaten the sanctity of the long-term log trend line.

There's a short-term bear trend developing, which comes to a point at the long-term log trendline. If it breaks that trend line, I'm expecting all hell to break lose. If it breaks up, then I believe that is an indication it is ready to break resistance at 680.
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610 on Bitstamp as we speak.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on July 10, 2014, 10:40:43 AM
What if it breaks sideways and nothing happens? Does that count as breaking downwards even if price just stays flat? Because pretty sure that's happened a couple times already.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: Ibian on July 10, 2014, 11:19:31 AM
Sanctity? Blah. I can only wish for sub-600 coins again. In fact it would be better for me if we stay down here for several more months.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on July 10, 2014, 11:45:51 AM
Not the long term trend line (Red). Just the acceleration channel trend line (Blue).

http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1404992526279.png

Sorry for the count! That was for something else.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: Dalmar on July 10, 2014, 12:47:05 PM
What if it breaks sideways and nothing happens? Does that count as breaking downwards even if price just stays flat? Because pretty sure that's happened a couple times already.

It can go sideways until it meets the next major log trend line below it (the one from 2011), which imo is more sustainable. The silk road trend line is surely going to break, it has been tested far too often on low volume already.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: segeln on July 10, 2014, 12:49:02 PM
Not the long term trend line (Red). Just the acceleration channel trend line (Blue).

http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1404992526279.png
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it is only the Rallyacceleration since 2013

before OP can call it a break:

an intraday or even up to 2 days-Violation is insignificant.

even a longer break could be a  "false breakout"

as for now I do not think it is a really market-driven break. It is just going sideways and the trendline goes up a bit day by day No momentum there


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: segeln on July 10, 2014, 12:54:12 PM
What if it breaks sideways and nothing happens? Does that count as breaking downwards even if price just stays flat? Because pretty sure that's happened a couple times already.

It can go sideways until it meets the next major log trend line below it (the one from 2011), which imo is more sustainable. The silk road trend line is surely going to break, it has been tested far too often on low volume already.
OMG,the trendline since 2011 ist about 130 $ right now.Hope ,we do not get that low.
The rallyacceleration (not SR-Trendline but China Trendline) ist strengthened by multiple tests not weakened.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: Dalmar on July 10, 2014, 12:57:09 PM
OMG,the trendline since 2011 ist about 130 $ right now.Hope ,we do not get that low.
The rallyacceleration (not SR-Trendline but China Trendline) ist strengthened by multiple tests not weakened.

It can hover above it sideways for a long time and meet it at a higher point.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: peeveepee on July 10, 2014, 01:05:32 PM
Still going sideways, not bullish or bearish.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: IIOII on July 10, 2014, 04:31:47 PM
People tend to think that even with high market capitalization growth trend will continue like before. That is not reasonable, because with growing valuations more and more capital is needed to move the price.

You will see multiple trendlines broken in the course of bitcoins continued rise, because valuation growth will slow down gradually. However there's nothing to fear, because it will still be a stellar rise compared to any traditional investment.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: CryptInvest on July 10, 2014, 04:54:20 PM
Nonsense. I recommend a look at the schedule for 3 years and everything will be clear. The trend is up.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: theonewhowaskazu on July 10, 2014, 04:58:47 PM
i think the kower trend line will hold at an absolute minimum.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: painlord2k on July 10, 2014, 10:42:38 PM
In my opinion, the 2011 trendline is improbable to be reached any time soon.
The 2013 trendline touching the SR minimum and tested recently was caused by the halving (reducing inflation from ~25%/years to ~12%/year).
The effect of the halving, couple with continuous new adoption by users and merchants, caused the exchange rate to soar as we know.
Silk Road, Cyprus, China were just catalyzers accelerating the increase of the exchange rate.

But, in these 18 months, inflation differential between BTC and USD is decreased substantially, from 5-6% difference to near zero yearly.
If the inflation of M1 continue to stay around 12%/year bitcoin inflation will trend down slowly from there for sure (because of the reduced increase of hashing power).
The current trend imply BTC inflation will be lower than M1 inflation by year end (maybe earlier).

Current inflation (this week) is the default value of design.
This imply it is 2% lower, if the price do not rise and mining start increasing again, than M1 inflation.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jjhd_nnfRJ9EyYuOM1ACPMwRod3hhPqRk4YQp7FIZE/pubhtml# (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Jjhd_nnfRJ9EyYuOM1ACPMwRod3hhPqRk4YQp7FIZE/pubhtml#)


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: Benjig on July 10, 2014, 10:43:51 PM
Not the long term trend line (Red). Just the acceleration channel trend line (Blue).

http://www.sierrachart.com/image.php?l=1404992526279.png

Sorry for the count! That was for something else.

So it seems that we are at the border of a new rally going on, hope that trend continues  :D


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: BitChick on July 10, 2014, 10:52:46 PM
I think it is a good time to buy.  :)

Husband and I have told a few people that very think the past couple of weeks and they actually listened and have thrown several thousand in.  It should get interesting from here I believe.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: cinder on July 11, 2014, 03:05:06 PM
I think it is a good time to buy.  :)

Husband and I have told a few people that very think the past couple of weeks and they actually listened and have thrown several thousand in.  It should get interesting from here I believe.

What is the reason for getting in at this point?


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: BitChick on July 11, 2014, 03:18:49 PM
I think it is a good time to buy.  :)

Husband and I have told a few people that very think the past couple of weeks and they actually listened and have thrown several thousand in.  It should get interesting from here I believe.

What is the reason for getting in at this point?

One friend I told about BTC last year and she just decided to buy now.

My husband was visiting his aunt in Vegas and mentioned Bitcoin and she wanted to know more and then decided quickly to invest several thousand. 

I think we are on the brink of another run so it is a good time to buy.  It is always more enjoyable to buy before the price rises. ;)


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: log2exp on July 11, 2014, 03:29:59 PM
Once the World Cup is settled, people will pay more attention on their investments, hence I see a bull period coming soon.


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: Bit_Happy on July 11, 2014, 05:04:50 PM
I think it is a good time to buy.  :)

Husband and I have told a few people that very think the past couple of weeks and they actually listened and have thrown several thousand in.  It should get interesting from here I believe.

What is the reason for getting in at this point?

One friend I told about BTC last year and she just decided to buy now.

My husband was visiting his aunt in Vegas and mentioned Bitcoin and she wanted to know more and then decided quickly to invest several thousand.  

I think we are on the brink of another run so it is a good time to buy.  It is always more enjoyable to buy before the price rises. ;)

Yes a Huge Rally is brewing and one reason will be a flood of mainstream interest.
Bitcoin is booming!  :)


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: alexeft on July 11, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
Well!!! It got off the trend line a little bit!!!  8)


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: wachtwoord on July 11, 2014, 05:43:01 PM
Once the World Cup is settled, people will pay more attention on their investments, hence I see a bull period coming soon.

The tour de France just started ...


Title: Re: Are be breaking long-term trendline?
Post by: AdamSmith on July 11, 2014, 05:45:06 PM
Trend is still intact for moon phase.