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Title: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: bitsmichel on July 10, 2014, 09:39:47 PM
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The price of one bitcoin will reach $2000 by the end of 2014, a venture capitalist has predicted - a 226pc increase from the virtual currency's present value.

"I actually think $2000 is a pretty conservative estimate," he told The Telegraph. "We don't know for sure if it's going to happen in this year, but there's no doubt in my mind that Bitcoin's price is going to be thousands of dollars and, almost for sure, tens of thousands of dollars for one."

Source : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10960012/Bitcoin-price-to-hit-2000-by-end-of-the-year.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10960012/Bitcoin-price-to-hit-2000-by-end-of-the-year.html)

I think it's an interesting prediction. What do you think? will we hit $2000 by the end of 2014 ?
Personally I think we'll see $4000 per bitcoin one day


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Chef Ramsay on July 10, 2014, 10:35:18 PM
If you think of the current adoption rate and where that would land on the S curve then there's plenty of room for pricing to expand. The USD is living on borrowed time so even when you have a BTC that is X thousand of dollars, it could literally buy you what it does today. However, if and when the USD experiences that kind of hyper inflation the sky is the limit for USD pricing. I'd imagine there will eventually be a North American currency at some point and that will be driven into the ground to force global fiat on the scene. This could be happening in the next 5 to 20 years unless the likes of Rand Paul gets elected President and the debt is radically reduced and we have an austerity period w/ economic growth that can bail us out. Either way, I expect BTC to do what is what made for and that is allowing someone to have as much control over their own finances as they're willing to have. The more people that want more of this control will mean a stronger mankind.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Minecache on July 10, 2014, 10:51:03 PM
While our unsavoury friends in the Islamic State rage a holy war against the righteous and fund it entirely through the bit coin system I dont see it happening.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: bitsmichel on July 11, 2014, 12:02:59 AM
If you think of the current adoption rate and where that would land on the S curve then there's plenty of room for pricing to expand. The USD is living on borrowed time so even when you have a BTC that is X thousand of dollars, it could literally buy you what it does today. However, if and when the USD experiences that kind of hyper inflation the sky is the limit for USD pricing. I'd imagine there will eventually be a North American currency at some point and that will be driven into the ground to force global fiat on the scene. This could be happening in the next 5 to 20 years unless the likes of Rand Paul gets elected President and the debt is radically reduced and we have an austerity period w/ economic growth that can bail us out. Either way, I expect BTC to do what is what made for and that is allowing someone to have as much control over their own finances as they're willing to have. The more people that want more of this control will mean a stronger mankind.

How would Rand Paul solve the problem? Of course one could print a banknote that says '9 trillion dollar', but I'm not sure how the Chinese would react to that; 5 to 20 years is a very short time, do you think the US will be in a critical situation then?  Perhaps one day we'll see a crypto-currency accepted anywhere as world currency. 


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: colinistheman on July 11, 2014, 02:51:42 AM
Perhaps one day we'll see a crypto-currency accepted anywhere as world currency.  

It's not a matter of "perhaps" or "if". It's how soon. Digital currency is definitely replacing fiat.

Just look at Star Trek. Have you ever seen them carry about a bunch of dollar bills? Gold Pressed latinum is about it, but the rest is digital :p  Heck, they're probably using Bitcoin


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Ron~Popeil on July 11, 2014, 06:21:58 AM
If you think of the current adoption rate and where that would land on the S curve then there's plenty of room for pricing to expand. The USD is living on borrowed time so even when you have a BTC that is X thousand of dollars, it could literally buy you what it does today. However, if and when the USD experiences that kind of hyper inflation the sky is the limit for USD pricing. I'd imagine there will eventually be a North American currency at some point and that will be driven into the ground to force global fiat on the scene. This could be happening in the next 5 to 20 years unless the likes of Rand Paul gets elected President and the debt is radically reduced and we have an austerity period w/ economic growth that can bail us out. Either way, I expect BTC to do what is what made for and that is allowing someone to have as much control over their own finances as they're willing to have. The more people that want more of this control will mean a stronger mankind.

How would Rand Paul solve the problem? Of course one could print a banknote that says '9 trillion dollar', but I'm not sure how the Chinese would react to that; 5 to 20 years is a very short time, do you think the US will be in a critical situation then?  Perhaps one day we'll see a crypto-currency accepted anywhere as world currency. 

You would have to call it 9 trillion dorra to get a response.  ;D

Seriously though I have a feeling that America is finally ready for the liberty movement. The last 16 years of bad leadership paved the way. Ron Paul shook up the establishment last time around. His son might be a little more palatable for the GOP establishment desperate for a winner.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Kprawn on July 11, 2014, 06:38:19 AM
There are simply not enough Bitcoins to go mainstream or to take over the fiat currencies of the world.

There are less than 13 000 000 bitcoins availlable but not all are in circulations. Currently with the price of bitcoin circling at $600 US it's total value is about $7.8 Billion US. {If my calculations are correct}

As Bitcoin Jesus said in that article, there are not enough bitcoins to give each person in the UK even 1. {If you consider, that the monthly salary of the average UK worker is way above the current value of bitcoins, you would need to push the price per bitcoin up by 10 times, just to cover wage benefits, and that would amount to a bitcoin price of $ 6000 US per bitcoin.}

Then multiply that with 1000 if other countries also adopt bitcoin as a alternative and you get to a bitcoin price of $ 60 000 per bitcoin. {Now salaries are covered, what about the rest}

These are gross over exageration of figures, just to make a point, as to what has to happen, if bitcoin are accepted as a fiat substitute.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Carlton Banks on July 11, 2014, 10:08:45 AM
There are simply not enough Bitcoins to go mainstream or to take over the fiat currencies of the world.

There are less than 13 000 000 bitcoins availlable but not all are in circulations. Currently with the price of bitcoin circling at $600 US it's total value is about $7.8 Billion US. {If my calculations are correct}

As Bitcoin Jesus said in that article, there are not enough bitcoins to give each person in the UK even 1. {If you consider, that the monthly salary of the average UK worker is way above the current value of bitcoins, you would need to push the price per bitcoin up by 10 times, just to cover wage benefits, and that would amount to a bitcoin price of $ 6000 US per bitcoin.}

Then multiply that with 1000 if other countries also adopt bitcoin as a alternative and you get to a bitcoin price of $ 60 000 per bitcoin. {Now salaries are covered, what about the rest}

These are gross over exageration of figures, just to make a point, as to what has to happen, if bitcoin are accepted as a fiat substitute.

Think of it as 1.3 quadrillion. I paid 0.034 BTC for take-out the other day, Bitpay seem to be happy with the bit pennies I gave them


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Gianluca95 on July 11, 2014, 10:14:27 AM
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The price of one bitcoin will reach $2000 by the end of 2014, a venture capitalist has predicted - a 226pc increase from the virtual currency's present value.

"I actually think $2000 is a pretty conservative estimate," he told The Telegraph. "We don't know for sure if it's going to happen in this year, but there's no doubt in my mind that Bitcoin's price is going to be thousands of dollars and, almost for sure, tens of thousands of dollars for one."

Source : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10960012/Bitcoin-price-to-hit-2000-by-end-of-the-year.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10960012/Bitcoin-price-to-hit-2000-by-end-of-the-year.html)

I think it's an interesting prediction. What do you think? will we hit $2000 by the end of 2014 ?
Personally I think we'll see $4000 per bitcoin one day



Absolutely good news ! :)

Probably, I think that in the next future, people, exchange ecc. will move and act in mBTC, not BTC, because value of 1 BTC will be too much high. :)



Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Mowcore on July 11, 2014, 10:17:05 AM
We have some good support in the comment section of that article. Makes a change!


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on July 11, 2014, 10:26:49 AM
2000 sounds legit because of the VC money and the ETFs etc etc


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: roslinpl on July 11, 2014, 10:30:45 AM
I like bullish articles :)  as I though on my own that we will hit >$2000 very soon (very soon = a year).

I am not sure what will be at the end of 2014 as we have already 2014-07-11 and we haven't seen any good rally this year ...
What we saw was a drop.

I am sure that with a good wind we can get higher than $2000 this year but for now price is ~$620, so it might be hard ... :)

Time will show.



Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Whitehouse on July 11, 2014, 10:33:42 AM
This is just pure speculation based off nothing. Any guess on the price is literally just I hope it's this much by then. Don't get me wrong, I'd love 2k, but there's not sceience behind this statement and this article is uterlly redundnt.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: cr1776 on July 11, 2014, 11:14:58 AM
There are simply not enough Bitcoins to go mainstream or to take over the fiat currencies of the world.

...

They are divisible.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Honeybooboo on July 11, 2014, 11:35:59 AM
There are simply not enough Bitcoins to go mainstream or to take over the fiat currencies of the world.

...

They are divisible.

Jeeze, kprawn you don't seem very clued up about bitcoin. This is one of the great benefits of bitcoin. If demand was that great more decimal places could be added and the coins we owned would grown in value, but the eight decimal places we currently have are more than enough.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Kprawn on July 11, 2014, 12:18:01 PM
I am clued up enough to know, you cannot buy a $80 Billion item with BTC as it stands now. {Couple of jets or a Aircraft carrier.. you know, the things governments buy}

Let's be realistic about these things.

Do the math, with the availlable {liquid} bitcoins at it's current price. {13 000 000 minus 1 000 000 of satoshis coins not in circulation and the estimated 80% to 90% of the rest of the coins being hoarded}

Imo it's not doable. {With a increase in the price per bitcoin to +/- $ 50 000 USD these type of transactions would become more viable}


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: colinistheman on July 11, 2014, 02:20:21 PM
Let's be realistic about these things.

Do the math, with the availlable {liquid} bitcoins at it's current price. {13 000 000 minus 1 000 000 of satoshis coins not in circulation and the estimated 80% to 90% of the rest of the coins being hoarded}

It's just a matter of divisibility like the others have said. There are MORE than enough bitcoins for every man, woman and child on earth. You wouldn't be dealing in whole bitcoins thats all. You just have to get over the psychological barrier of a "whole" coin. The denominations would be named different things. That's all. It's very, very simple to grasp.


I am clued up enough to know, you cannot buy a $80 Billion item with BTC as it stands now. {Couple of jets or a Aircraft carrier.. you know, the things governments buy}
...
Imo it's not doable. {With a increase in the price per bitcoin to +/- $ 50 000 USD these type of transactions would become more viable}

And that's what will happen.  A single bitcoin will be worth $50,000 some day.  Give this young currency a chance to develop before you dismiss it. Think a little in futures won't ya? How long has the US dollar been around? More than 5 years?


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: nwfella on July 11, 2014, 03:23:56 PM
Perhaps one day we'll see a crypto-currency accepted anywhere as world currency.  

It's not a matter of "perhaps" or "if". It's how soon. Digital currency is definitely replacing fiat.

Just look at Star Trek. Have you ever seen them carry about a bunch of dollar bills? Gold Pressed latinum is about it, but the rest is digital :p  Heck, they're probably using Bitcoin
/facepalm

There is no currency in the Star Trek future.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Kprawn on July 11, 2014, 04:09:57 PM
I am clued up enough to know, you cannot buy a $80 Billion item with BTC as it stands now. {Couple of jets or a Aircraft carrier.. you know, the things governments buy}

So I guess nobody read the "...as it stands now" part in this thread. Not the future...Now. But anyhow, I made my point, you do the math.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Minecache on July 11, 2014, 04:27:55 PM
A lot of wishful thinking in this thread. One day I'd like to see the price rise at a sustain gradual growth. But until then all I can do is try to buy as many bit coins as cheaply as possible before any price escalation.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: ThomasCrowne on July 11, 2014, 05:02:23 PM
Seriously doubt it will hit $2,000 by the end of this year but pretty sure it will by this time next year :)


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: Chef Ramsay on July 11, 2014, 05:55:11 PM
Seriously doubt it will hit $2,000 by the end of this year but pretty sure it will by this time next year :)
It doesn't get much more bullish than that!!...IF you're talking about the YoY low at that point.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: CryptInvest on July 11, 2014, 07:55:26 PM
I believe that the price will be about $ 1,000 by the end of the year. This time constant


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: howardb on July 11, 2014, 08:32:12 PM
Lots of guessing going on, here is what happens when you actually plug some numbers for bitcoin into real world monetary model: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=646186.0


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: kibblesnbits on July 12, 2014, 02:03:36 PM
https://www.betmoose.com/bet/bitcoin-will-pass-1000-by-the-end-of-this-year-247 (https://www.betmoose.com/bet/bitcoin-will-pass-1000-by-the-end-of-this-year-247)


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: KK99 on July 12, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
Personally I think it would be at $1000 sometime soon if new users and companies keep coming in and growth in use improve. Of course it's not a guaranteed guess at all...


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: CoinMode on July 13, 2014, 10:47:38 PM
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The price of one bitcoin will reach $2000 by the end of 2014, a venture capitalist has predicted - a 226pc increase from the virtual currency's present value.

"I actually think $2000 is a pretty conservative estimate," he told The Telegraph. "We don't know for sure if it's going to happen in this year, but there's no doubt in my mind that Bitcoin's price is going to be thousands of dollars and, almost for sure, tens of thousands of dollars for one."

Source : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10960012/Bitcoin-price-to-hit-2000-by-end-of-the-year.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10960012/Bitcoin-price-to-hit-2000-by-end-of-the-year.html)

I think it's an interesting prediction. What do you think? will we hit $2000 by the end of 2014 ?
Personally I think we'll see $4000 per bitcoin one day


Nope. We are going to see $100k coins in a few years from now, but this will be a down year, just like 2012. Time to stabilize and build support. Once the average person can get a bitcoin paycheck, bank account, and a bitcoin debit card that can be used at any VISA location, then it is game over and we won. Just keep fighting the good fight until then, and keep in mind that next year is going to be an explosion of bitcoin companies and services.


Title: Re: [2014-06-10] Bitcoin price 'to hit $2000' by end of the year
Post by: gmx95 on July 15, 2014, 03:24:58 AM
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The price of one bitcoin will reach $2000 by the end of 2014, a venture capitalist has predicted - a 226pc increase from the virtual currency's present value.

"I actually think $2000 is a pretty conservative estimate," he told The Telegraph. "We don't know for sure if it's going to happen in this year, but there's no doubt in my mind that Bitcoin's price is going to be thousands of dollars and, almost for sure, tens of thousands of dollars for one."

Source : http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10960012/Bitcoin-price-to-hit-2000-by-end-of-the-year.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/currency/10960012/Bitcoin-price-to-hit-2000-by-end-of-the-year.html)

I think it's an interesting prediction. What do you think? will we hit $2000 by the end of 2014 ?
Personally I think we'll see $4000 per bitcoin one day


If someone can predict the price correctly, then that person should go and gamble in the casino :-)
On any currency, every day I see directly opposite opinions :-)