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Title: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on July 13, 2014, 09:20:37 AM
was he left or right or center or was he apolitical?


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on July 13, 2014, 09:26:00 AM
Presume a Libertarian and a Cryptoanarchist but at the least a Cypherpunk which is any activist advocating widespread use of strong cryptography as a route to social and political change. Originally communicating through the Cypherpunks electronic mailing list, informal groups aimed to achieve privacy and security through proactive use of cryptography. Cypherpunks have been engaged in an active movement since the late 1980s.

I wouldn't know for certain but he did develop a system that can be traced to Timothy C. May's 1988 publication The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto

The basic ideas are in this quote from A Cypherpunk's Manifesto (Eric Hughes, 1993):

    Privacy is necessary for an open society in the electronic age. ...

    We cannot expect governments, corporations, or other large, faceless organizations to grant us privacy ...

    We must defend our own privacy if we expect to have any. ...

    Cypherpunks write code. We know that someone has to write software to defend privacy, and ... we're going to write it. ...


Wiki for more info on those streams of thought
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-anarchism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: Gimmelfarb on July 13, 2014, 10:08:36 AM
i heard he left bitcoin development and bitcointalk because he was so jaded that ancaps and right libertarians took over his project. it's really a damn shame. (just kidding ;D)


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: Catmoonglow on July 13, 2014, 11:25:01 AM
I think he stands on privacy and freedom of financial speech


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on July 14, 2014, 08:57:56 AM
i heard he left bitcoin development and bitcointalk because he was so jaded that ancaps and right libertarians took over his project. it's really a damn shame. (just kidding ;D)

Na that was because Gavin went to the Feds and the FBI so if anything its because he was too anarchist to have government around sniffing up his identity.
From
https://www.sq1.tv/bitcoin


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: 1986 on July 14, 2014, 09:05:37 AM
He was hardly right wing was he? I'm not sure he ever stated his stance, but I think we can safely say he believes in freedom and fairness.


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on July 15, 2014, 12:03:12 AM
He was hardly right wing was he? I'm not sure he ever stated his stance, but I think we can safely say he believes in freedom and fairness.

That's probably right for all we know about Satoshi, we still don't know that much other than his interest in crytography, his education based on how he wrote his whitepaper, and that he ran away around the time of Gavin going to the FBI and the rise of the Silk Road/Wikileaks incident.
Kind of tricky to base an ideology out of that.


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: Skele on July 15, 2014, 12:10:28 AM
Whatever the political view was, he/they planned it so well. I'm sure he/they wasted a lot of neurons, energy, time and effort to make the

brilliand Bitcoin as currently is, and such things that demand endurance and effort worth it...


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: giveBTCpls on July 15, 2014, 12:18:50 AM
My question would have been: If he was a legit hardcore, anarko anti regularization guy, why he didn't make BTC at the level of privacy that CryptoNote based coins deliver?


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: bitsmichel on July 15, 2014, 12:36:50 AM
My question would have been: If he was a legit hardcore, anarko anti regularization guy, why he didn't make BTC at the level of privacy that CryptoNote based coins deliver?

The important thing is the technology, as the technology made us more free. I think that's what has been important for Satoshi.
You can read back on the mailinglist, but basically he told something along the lines of "this will give us some years of freedom"
At the time, it seemed convenient to use BTC trough TOR, if you wanted privacy.



Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: joshraban76 on July 15, 2014, 01:19:58 AM
I don't think I have ever read anything that would swag my opinion one way or the other but If I was to take a guess, I would say a left leaning libertarian. I really don't have any specific reason for this guess other then that is my gut feeling from what I have read.


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: BittBurger on July 15, 2014, 06:22:06 AM
If the legendary first-ever comment from Satoshi on the Genesis block is any indication...

"The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks."


https://blockchain.info/tx/4a5e1e4baab89f3a32518a88c31bc87f618f76673e2cc77ab2127b7afdeda33b?show_adv=true

-B-


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: notbatman on July 15, 2014, 10:31:11 AM
I think it's fairly obvious that he's a right-wing authoritarian.


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: AT101ET on July 15, 2014, 10:32:14 AM
He was more of a Satoshian.
His view follows the more bit orientated view of Satoshi.
Interpret that however you want to ;)


Title: Re: What was the political view of Satoshi nakamoto?
Post by: Gianluca95 on July 15, 2014, 10:39:02 AM
Surely he is a revolutionary, with Bitcoin he finding a way to revolution the money system of this world.

Consequently, he is a libertine  8)