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Bitcoin => Mining support => Topic started by: garbor on July 13, 2014, 09:51:33 PM



Title: Problem.
Post by: garbor on July 13, 2014, 09:51:33 PM
Hello.


I just joined today and get started, but faced with the problem of poor performance, what can you do?

To verify the card Saphirre Radeon 7870GHz Edition 2Gb

http://smages.com/images/miner.png


Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: thejewelrytech on July 13, 2014, 10:27:23 PM
Your stats look right for your GPU .Why would you want to mine with a GPU? mining with a GPU is a lost cause this is the age of ASIC MINERS  your about 2 years too late to mine with a GPU.Mining with a GPU is pretty much worthless.The cost of Electricity will cost probably four or five times or more then any coin you can make?You might make a 1$ worth a week if you mine 24 hours a day with the cost of 2$ or so a day in electricity depending on your rates where you live?.
  Mining in general has become a lost cause unless you can build a farm and solomine blocks? If you want Bitcoin best advice is too BUY it straight out. You will most likely never ever ROI on any mining equipment that's out today either  as not many companies actually deliver on their promise for delivery and the majority have turned scam and by the time you get it if your so lucky too ? Your mining machine will be close to worthless and already used second hand most likely and with the current rise of Difficulty is a waste of time pretty much. This goes for buying shares of Cloud Mining also unless you have Money to throw away?and making your money back doesn't matter? Then by all means go for it.................


Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: ALToids on July 14, 2014, 03:26:10 AM
As noted above you're doing it correctly, but you're about 2 years behind.

Your 7870 goes for about $150-$180.  It hashes about 400MH/s or about 0.4GH/s.

For the same $150-$180 you can buy 2 used Antminer S1 that do 400GH/s - about 1000 times faster than your video card.

There is no point mining Bitcoin with video cards other than to make heat.


Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: fr333n3rgy on July 14, 2014, 04:47:19 AM
Problem solved !


Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: garbor on July 14, 2014, 09:22:29 AM
Hello.


And this device is worth buying?

http://www.avito.ru/moskva/oborudovanie_dlya_biznesa/butterfly_labs_bitcoin_asic_miner_jalapeno_7_gha_366513560
40$ in Moscow using.

https://products.butterflylabs.com/4-5gh-bitcoin-miner.html



Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: thejewelrytech on July 14, 2014, 02:43:10 PM
Hello.


And this device is worth buying?

http://www.avito.ru/moskva/oborudovanie_dlya_biznesa/butterfly_labs_bitcoin_asic_miner_jalapeno_7_gha_366513560
40$ in Moscow using.

https://products.butterflylabs.com/4-5gh-bitcoin-miner.html


Do not buy ANYTHING from Butterfly labs or associated with it!! with that 40$ you probably won't even make 5$ worth of bitcoin! Then add electricity?= COMPLETE LOSS I have block eruptors @ 10.7 GHS and they are pretty much shut down because its not WORTH IT! and anything less than a antminer S1 200 ghs just expect to never make any kind of real  money on it even the S1 isn't really profitable but its at least halfway decent but it will be just about worthlless and outdated in a month or 2 or so just like the GPU with the rising Difficulty. For mining to be profitable you need at least a ANTMINER S3 1 Terahertz these days and will cost you a couple thousand and its really not worth it your better off just buying  Bitcoin it will be cheaper! The only company I would trust to buy anything off of is pretty much ANTMINER Bitmain they are the only ones who have lived up too their delivery dates.But even with them you most likely will never make enough coin to repay the investment especially when you  add a power supply and cost of electricity you will make less bitcoin mining then if you took that same cash and just straight out bought it!!
 What is your intentions? Do you just want to mine for a side hobby? or the fun of it and be part of the network? Or are you looking to make money? if your looking too make money? Then like I said seriously just use a solid exchange like Bitstamp or Coinbase and Buy some Bitcoin and hold and you will be ahead of the game.ALSo never use a ONLINE WALLET to store Bitcoin EDUCATE YOURSELF on how too store and Protect your BITCOIN and use something like ARMORY to store it!!!
  Save yourself the time and money and headache of avoiding scams in the mining industry because you obviously don't know too much?You don't want to learn the hard way!!. If you Buy any mining equipment today?Chances are you will never make a profit and you will LOSE money with cost of machine and power supply and Electricity.Pools are struggling too find blocks also  so there is no GUARANTEE on how much coin you can make even if a calculator tells you  you supposedly can!and it's only going to get worse........
 If you want to do it for fun and don't care about the money just want to be part of it? buy a S1 antminer from Bitmain or some USB sticks on Ebay is your best bet just make sure you Buy from a reputable vendor but understand you will never ever make a ROI RETURN OF INVESTMENT or any kind of real amount of coin for a profit and be making pennies and lucky if you break even!You will just be  essentially GAMBLING and doing it for fun.


Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: byt411 on July 14, 2014, 04:11:09 PM
Hello.


And this device is worth buying?

http://www.avito.ru/moskva/oborudovanie_dlya_biznesa/butterfly_labs_bitcoin_asic_miner_jalapeno_7_gha_366513560
40$ in Moscow using.

https://products.butterflylabs.com/4-5gh-bitcoin-miner.html



You got one less problem if you don't buy it.


Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: Bitsaurus on July 15, 2014, 09:33:48 AM
Pretty much the only miner that looks like it has any chance of making a profit at this time is the Antminer S3.  First three batches sold out.  Try to get in on the fourth batch if you want one really bad (you need to buy 2 which is about $1000 and you need a PSU).  Otherwise it's not worth mining or than for fun.


Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: garbor on July 15, 2014, 01:20:03 PM
http://www.avito.ru/moskva/oborudovanie_dlya_biznesa/asic_antminer_s1_190_ghs_bp_340282622

used ~270 $


Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: philipma1957 on July 15, 2014, 01:25:05 PM
http://www.avito.ru/moskva/oborudovanie_dlya_biznesa/asic_antminer_s1_190_ghs_bp_340282622

used ~270 $

overpriced  by 2x    should be 135.  below on usa ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antminer-S1-23-Available-Ships-from-United-States-/261532236061?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item3ce489391d




http://www.ebay.com/itm/1X-bitcoin-miners-180-200-ghs-antminer-s1-/151356033026?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item233d85c802


Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: garbor on July 22, 2014, 05:00:44 PM
What you say to this device for newbie... http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bitcoin-Antminer-U1-USB-BTC-Ant-miner-1-6GH-s-Overclock-2-2GH-s-2-Watts-/121391267732?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item1c437bbf94

And i buying new VGA Gigabyte gtx770oc-4gb

http://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125462&cm_re=gigabyte_gtx_770-_-14-125-462-_-Product

What can squeeze out of it?

I just temporarily unemployed and on my expensive devices have no money ...
The only thing I bought this graphics card, as it was necessary ...


Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: byt411 on July 23, 2014, 12:16:40 AM
What you say to this device for newbie... http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Bitcoin-Antminer-U1-USB-BTC-Ant-miner-1-6GH-s-Overclock-2-2GH-s-2-Watts-/121391267732?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item1c437bbf94

And i buying new VGA Gigabyte gtx770oc-4gb

http://www.newegg.com/global/uk/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125462&cm_re=gigabyte_gtx_770-_-14-125-462-_-Product

What can squeeze out of it?

I just temporarily unemployed and on my expensive devices have no money ...
The only thing I bought this graphics card, as it was necessary ...

You can squeeze nothing out of them. Especially nvidia cards, they do nothing.
Just don't get into mining, Bitcoin isn't a get-rich-quick scheme, OK?
That U1 will get you a max of $1 per month, and the GTX 770 even less, so don't even bother.


Title: Re: Problem.
Post by: garbor on August 23, 2014, 08:51:01 PM
Hi.

I booked myself a device (http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6207479202.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/6207479202.html)) for extraction, in the realities of the pool as it is important.