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Title: Powered risers cause video problems????? Post by: bronco67 on July 14, 2014, 02:14:32 PM Hi guys, I'm new to the forum. I'm not a bitcoin miner, but I'm extremely fascinated by your inventive hardware setups for crunching as much data as possible with the smallest physical footprint. I'm a 3D animator who is an extremely small group of GPU rendering early adoption. But everyone is focused on sticking everything in a case, while I've always built open air gear.
After seeing all of the great rigs on this forum, I built my own to use some powered GPU risers. My motherboard is the Asus Maximus 5 Extreme, and my build went well until after booting a few times to install various software. Eventually, it would almost boot into Windows 7, then the video signal would drop. I reformatted several times, thinking it was some software problem. But I eventually found out that unplugging the molex connectors to the risers allowed the computer to boot properly every time. It even posted much quicker, because when the issues were happening it would take about 30 seconds for a post. Now it's instant after a restart. Anyway...will I damage anything by running the cards with the risers unconnected? It seems to be operating beautifully now, but could something be slowly degrading because of that lack of extra juice? The only thing I know for sure is that the computer will get to the Windows screen about 10% of the time with the risers connected. Thanks for any wisdom you can give me on this subject. Title: Re: Powered risers cause video problems????? Post by: FlyForFun on July 14, 2014, 02:19:35 PM I dont think so unless your riser are faulty.
Title: Re: Powered risers cause video problems????? Post by: klondike_bar on July 14, 2014, 09:47:40 PM as long as the GPUs have thier own PCIe power, powering the risers shouldn't be a necessity.
keep in mind that the risers often limit the bandwidth of the cards, espescially if you use 1X risers as these will make GPU-intensive operations like games get really screwey with textures and artifacts freaking out all over the place. 16X risers should prevent this issue though (my GPU0 is on a 16x riser for gaming and the other 3 are on 1x risers for mining) Title: Re: Powered risers cause video problems????? Post by: bronco67 on July 15, 2014, 02:59:56 AM as long as the GPUs have thier own PCIe power, powering the risers shouldn't be a necessity. keep in mind that the risers often limit the bandwidth of the cards, espescially if you use 1X risers as these will make GPU-intensive operations like games get really screwey with textures and artifacts freaking out all over the place. 16X risers should prevent this issue though (my GPU0 is on a 16x riser for gaming and the other 3 are on 1x risers for mining) I have 16x risers. I read a post of the ROG forums that said I should try turning the PCI gen to 2 in the Bios...and that worked for a while. I was able to actually have 2 cards visible in the device manager. Now I'm down to one again. Maybe there's a special order the cards need to be added to get them to show up? I don't know...ASUS stuff is always weird and I'm going to try some more things before I RMA this board soon and never buy ASUS again. Title: Re: Powered risers cause video problems????? Post by: Unacceptable on July 15, 2014, 03:20:49 AM as long as the GPUs have thier own PCIe power, powering the risers shouldn't be a necessity. keep in mind that the risers often limit the bandwidth of the cards, espescially if you use 1X risers as these will make GPU-intensive operations like games get really screwey with textures and artifacts freaking out all over the place. 16X risers should prevent this issue though (my GPU0 is on a 16x riser for gaming and the other 3 are on 1x risers for mining) I have 16x risers. I read a post of the ROG forums that said I should try turning the PCI gen to 2 in the Bios...and that worked for a while. I was able to actually have 2 cards visible in the device manager. Now I'm down to one again. Maybe there's a special order the cards need to be added to get them to show up? I don't know...ASUS stuff is always weird and I'm going to try some more things before I RMA this board soon and never buy ASUS again. Did you install the vid driver as many times as you have vid cards ??? Each card usually needs the driver(same driver,just reboot & install driver again) installed for it to be seen by the OS. Title: Re: Powered risers cause video problems????? Post by: bronco67 on July 15, 2014, 05:08:14 AM as long as the GPUs have thier own PCIe power, powering the risers shouldn't be a necessity. keep in mind that the risers often limit the bandwidth of the cards, espescially if you use 1X risers as these will make GPU-intensive operations like games get really screwey with textures and artifacts freaking out all over the place. 16X risers should prevent this issue though (my GPU0 is on a 16x riser for gaming and the other 3 are on 1x risers for mining) I have 16x risers. I read a post of the ROG forums that said I should try turning the PCI gen to 2 in the Bios...and that worked for a while. I was able to actually have 2 cards visible in the device manager. Now I'm down to one again. Maybe there's a special order the cards need to be added to get them to show up? I don't know...ASUS stuff is always weird and I'm going to try some more things before I RMA this board soon and never buy ASUS again. Did you install the vid driver as many times as you have vid cards ??? Each card usually needs the driver(same driver,just reboot & install driver again) installed for it to be seen by the OS. I will definitely try that, although at the moment the system is seeing the gtx 780 and the gtx 760. They both use the same driver. Title: Re: Powered risers cause video problems????? Post by: Unacceptable on July 15, 2014, 08:34:57 AM as long as the GPUs have thier own PCIe power, powering the risers shouldn't be a necessity. keep in mind that the risers often limit the bandwidth of the cards, espescially if you use 1X risers as these will make GPU-intensive operations like games get really screwey with textures and artifacts freaking out all over the place. 16X risers should prevent this issue though (my GPU0 is on a 16x riser for gaming and the other 3 are on 1x risers for mining) I have 16x risers. I read a post of the ROG forums that said I should try turning the PCI gen to 2 in the Bios...and that worked for a while. I was able to actually have 2 cards visible in the device manager. Now I'm down to one again. Maybe there's a special order the cards need to be added to get them to show up? I don't know...ASUS stuff is always weird and I'm going to try some more things before I RMA this board soon and never buy ASUS again. Did you install the vid driver as many times as you have vid cards ??? Each card usually needs the driver(same driver,just reboot & install driver again) installed for it to be seen by the OS. I will definitely try that, although at the moment the system is seeing the gtx 780 and the gtx 760. They both use the same driver. Ah,Nividia...I always do a "clean install" (check the box while installing,under "custom install") of vid drivers too with nothing but the driver & HD audio & Physics. Forget the 3D crap,its useless unless you actually found a use for it :D http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h148/Bigblock462/Cleaninstall_zpsb92001b2.jpg (http://s63.photobucket.com/user/Bigblock462/media/Cleaninstall_zpsb92001b2.jpg.html) Here is the best way to install Nvidia drivers: http://www.overclock.net/t/989327/nvidia-clean-install https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/462278/geforce-drivers/clean-driver-install/ To boot in safe mode,type msconfig in the start button search field & go to boot tab & tick the safe mode box & apply. You'll have to undo this later when you finish with driversweeper in safe mode,before you reboot,otherwise you just reboot into safe mode over & over & over ;) Be careful when running Driversweeper,DO NOT REMOVE CHIPSET DRIVERS,you'll have to do a full OS reinstall to fix that goofup ::) |
