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So, what you are trying to say: why are those guys covering their noses if the bodies were fresh? Why is the passport invalidated?

It is the last version of events from  russia-kremlin  TROLLS.
All people in an airplane were dead already 3 days, and and without blood.Version of  Girkin  and FSB....
Presenting greater cynicism ...!!!!!!!!

Some medical experts font on it?

Is there an article about this? Do you have a link?

And not links like this one http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/rebel-leader-malaysia-plane-filled-with-already-dead-bodies

I mean a serious site ... like http://www.reuters.com/ or something

Wait on experts. My link here was removed by moderator.

Poroshenko is accusing the rebels of destroying evidence. He is saying that 38 of the bodies were moved to a local morgue. Has this anything to do with this news? BTW... I don't think anyone would fill half of a Boeing 777 with corpses, while taking off for an international flight.

Modern missiles work so. It doesn't hit the target directly. Explosion occurs near the target, and hitting it with massive amount of shrapnel.

This is not shrapnel.
And for now i see no conclusions and no pictures about type of missile.

What are those punched out holes in the passport or does nobody know at this point? I did find it weird how the bodies were pretty much all in tact and the passports that were being shown around looked pristine. I'm not saying there's a conspiracy there but it was surprising to me.

Wait, is the latest hot topic here that this plane was loaded up w/ corpses and not real live people on board? I can't keep up w/ all the details incoming.

No blooded corps of passengers. Only pilots blooded.
Strange new issued docs with no damages.

That kind of stuff happens with in flight breakups. There were quite a few intact bodies with TWA 800 as well. Depending on angle and speed of descent etc. this kind of thing is not unusual.

Already dead people onboard? Well this is really becoming ridiculous. There is a full passenger list released: http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/malaysia-airlines/mas/PDF/MH17/MH17%20PAX%20AND%20CREW%20MANIFEST.pdf (http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/content/dam/malaysia-airlines/mas/PDF/MH17/MH17%20PAX%20AND%20CREW%20MANIFEST.pdf)

Some would think that relatives should've known about their dead and probably wouldn't let them fly in such unhealthy condition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDI5DUDzOwA

 1:00 - talking about "non fresh dead bodies"

My comment was more toward the corpses than the passports.

I would imagine though that it isn't unusual for boxes of invalidated passports to be part of the cargo on international flights. Passenger jets carry cargo all the time and in certain instances invalid passports are returned to the issuing government.

I still will see the surface of aircraft, that will show type of missile.
Air-air missile and ground-air missile make different holes.

With all the irregularities w/ this flight and the one that went missing makes one wonder if the missing one was reused for this particular situation to stir shit up. I'm not saying one way or another, it just all seems so fishy and I would put nothing past the shot callers when they are hell bent on making something happen. And for crying out loud, they sure are capable of pulling off grandiose psy-ops on such a large scale.

So wait a minute the flight MH370 just reappeared and crashed? Who was so important on the flight that they had to come up with this new story.

Interesting to see that paper is more durable than humans. I would have thought the opposite was true.


This is a different plane by the same airline. This is MH17. You're thinking of MH370. MH370 is still missing and nobody knows exactly where it is or what happened to it. MH17 was hit by a missile and crashed in Ukraine.

Oh, common. This is getting ridiculous. The famous AIDS researcher Joep Lange was among those died in the crash. He was travelling to Australia, to attend a conference there. Do you think some one killed him prior to the crash?

Listen the audio in Russian 1:00.

Are you trying to establish a turing test for him? :)

Do these clowns actually think for a second anybody is going to buy their nonsense. Colorable deniability has to at least be colorable. This spin would make Sean Hannity blush.

I always welcome a good conspiracy theory, but this is extremely far-fetched, and (worse) there is evidence to disprove it.
There were some very well know people on the plane (eg. a member of the Dutch parliament, a very well established AIDS scientist), and some from the very town I live in (I know some of their relatives). Incidentally, to keep this discussion vagely relevant to bitcoin, it is the very same sleepy Dutch town in which the recently arrested Silk Road dealer 'Supertrips' and his 3 M$ worth of bitcoin was living (Woerden).

108 of them were going to an AIDS conference.
Most were provably alive shortly before boarding.

So, why would anyone murder these people first only to put them on a plane which is shot out of the sky shortly afterwards? (assuring their death with essentially 100% certainty).



The plane departed from the country in which these passports were issued (The Netherlands), so this makes little sense.

I will not believe it. What are the reason they will put dead bodies when they can easily do it alive bodies?

That was just some wild rumor. Only 6 of the passengers were AIDS researchers (including Joep Lange). The remaining were mostly tourists, who were travelling to Bali, Thailand and Malaysia.

Yes, absolutely! People please stop talking about theese WILD conspiracy theories its so Dangerous to even think about it!!!11  >:(


And also, when magicians on big Magic shows make 1 rabbit disappear into their hat and then it reappears in another part of the room in just 0.001 Seconds, that is the same rabbit. Just so you all know. Ty.


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So the Ukraine military has sneak to the dutch airport with 300 bodies,  loaded them into he plane and then crashed the plane into the rebels held territory?
Too much vodka tovarishch

How to become hard odor of carrion in 1 Hour with cloudy day?

What are you trying to say?

About the smell and a strange view of bodies said, who came to the crash site within hours.

I'm pretty sure you are an expert on the smell of humans dead in an aircraft crash.

Who said that?
Oh wait , the guys that shot down the plane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDI5DUDzOwA

 1:00 - talking about "non fresh dead bodies"

Take the map and see, where is point of impact, and calculate the place, where jet must be hit, if FOX NEWS reported city Kremenchuk (https://www.google.com/search?&q=the+plane+apparently+went+down,+near+the+city+of+Kremenchuk).

I would doubt that there was anyone that died on the plane prior to the plane being shot down. The stench of dead bodies would likely draw some kind of attention and the pilot would likely have at the very least made some kind of call to Air traffic control.

Less then a month ago a plane made an emergency landing because there was a stench coming from inside the cabin.

The smell from the amount of blood you get from a car accident is often enough to make people feel sick. I can't imagine how it would be when almost 300 people are dead.

On the audio are talking about no blood on passengers, in front of all blooded pilots..
Thank to Kiev everyday bombing of Donetsk and Lugansk republics, rescue squads know good about how already dead people must be present.

So what exactly is the point of the two pics?  :-\

http://earth-chronicles.ru/Publications_8/53/pasport3.jpg
Documents with no blood and no damage.

Report of hard smell of bodies  (http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1809353)in shortest time after impact.

I personally find it very strange that they took down this plane!

Because we had 100+ great people in there that were fighting AIDS and I starting to think they did this because the found the cure to AIDS .... and if we have the cure for AIDS then what the pharmaceutical companies would win? Exactly nothing because they will not sell any more medication!

So I blame pharmaceutical companies for this!

Does anyone know who is the biggest pharmaceutical company that makes medication against AIDS?