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Title: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 12:29:05 PM http://savepic.net/5900995.jpg
Quote Ukrainian government forces manoeuvre anti-aircraft missile launchers as they are transported northwest from Slavyansk, eastern Ukraine Friday. Photograph by: Dmitry Lovetsky, The Associated Press , The Associated Press http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/Ukraine%2Btruce%2Bprospects%2Bappear/10003759/story.html Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: BitcoinMillionaire on July 19, 2014, 12:47:30 PM Does the rebel also have this missile system?
Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 01:19:36 PM Does the rebel also have this missile system? For launch are needed 16 prepared people. Kiev forces says, that all BUK in hands of Donetsk republic is intentionally broken by Ukrainian military. And they declared too, that no systems with capacity to shoot on 10 km is in hands of Donetsk republic. Quote Пo инфopмaции yкpaинcкoгo вoeннoгo экcпepтa Aлeкceя Apecтoвичa, из чacти A-1402 былa вывeзeнa вcя тexникa, включaя "Бyки", oкoлo двyx мecяцeв нaзaд, и oпoлчeнцы cмoгли зaxвaтить тoлькo oднy пycкo-зapяжaющyю мaшинy (oнa лишь внeшнe пoxoжa нa ycтaнoвкy "Бyк"). Texникa пoлкa нaxoдитcя ближe к линии Cлaвянcк-Кpaмaтopcк, кoнтpoлиpyeмoй yкpaинcкими вoйcкaми, гoвopит Apecтoвич. Читaть пoлнocтью: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/18/07/2014/937572.shtml http://top.rbc.ru/politics/18/07/2014/937572.shtml Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: Nemo1024 on July 19, 2014, 01:28:39 PM Besides, Ukrainian Prosecutor General made a statement yesterday, saying that no Buks had fallen into freedom fighters' hands.
Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: Paya on July 19, 2014, 01:52:41 PM It's fine, but 247crypto... you do remember a week ago whan I asked how did the rebels manage to shoot down Ukrainian AN-26 at 6000+ meters? You've posted this same picture of Buk on truck, obviously implying that it was the rebels who were transporting it. Besides, you linked some pro-rebel site telling about the successful action of Donetsk specnaz unit in late June, when they captured Ukrainian AA unit equpped with complete Buk systems. Assuming that this sudden change in your storyline is true, may I ask - why have you been lying before?
Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: hologram on July 19, 2014, 01:56:40 PM It's fine, but 247crypto... you do remember a week ago whan I asked how did the rebels manage to shoot down Ukrainian AN-26 at 6000+ meters? You've posted this same picture of Buk on truck, obviously implying that it was the rebels who were transporting it. Besides, you linked some pro-rebel site telling about the successful action of Donetsk specnaz unit in late June, when they captured Ukrainian AA unit equpped with complete Buk systems. Assuming that this sudden change in your storyline is true, may I ask - why have you been lying before? Stop talking dirty conspirator ;D Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: bryant.coleman on July 19, 2014, 02:49:18 PM Does the rebel also have this missile system? Even if the rebels have this system, they don't have the technical expertise to operate it. To operate this missile system, you need multiple launch codes, plus more than a dozen well trained personnel. Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: hologram on July 19, 2014, 03:01:14 PM Even if the rebels have this system, they don't have the technical expertise to operate it. To operate this missile system, you need multiple launch codes, plus more than a dozen well trained personnel. Don't some part of Russian speaking Ukrainian army became rebel ? Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 04:13:37 PM This is a picture of the BUK that fired. They transported it back to Russia. I'm Dutch and I can only blame one P. http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.fr/2014/07/russian-transport-of-buk-that-shot-down.html LOL winter clothes in summer... a fake http://image.112.ua/original/Mar2014/23755.jpg "ukrainian units" http://censor.net.ua/v274823 Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 04:16:43 PM they captured Ukrainian AA That is captured, but no one published the real number of present weapons there. Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 04:42:29 PM First picture and transport is not fake. I see no "Russian boarder" on video, totally no fonts about autor, and for working only missiles are not enough. If they have so strong weapons, why Kiev use military aviation over Snezhnoe? Why this zone is OK for civil jets and Crimea is not (for Kiev)? Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: hologram on July 19, 2014, 04:46:52 PM In the past you glorified rebel attack on Kiev plane... Why they can't attack a civilian plane ?
Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 04:56:40 PM In the past you glorified rebel attack on Kiev plane... Why they can't attack a civilian plane ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-portable_air-defense_systems http://cs7002.vk.me/c540103/v540103159/1c026/U3e0MrqrPnc.jpg PZRK Igla is unable to hit something over 5 km, jet was on 10 km. And the place where jet must be hit by missile is deep on Kiev controlled territory. Some fonts are talking about 2 air-air missiles. And some day before AN-26 was hit on 6 km of altitude, in that moment Kiev declare, that Donetsk Republic have no such weapons to hit aircraft on 6 km of altitude. http://s52.radikal.ru/i137/1407/7b/a1d2f7aaa5e5.jpg Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 05:18:28 PM Declaration "We have no weapons for altitude over 3 KM" Dmitriy Gau
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulwIa_psdzI Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: Paya on July 19, 2014, 05:28:23 PM *sigh*
Let's try again. Crypto, what happened with this Buk missile regiment rebels claimed they've captured in June? Did they lie then, or are they lying now? https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Frusvesna.su%2Fnews%2F1404041521&edit-text= (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Frusvesna.su%2Fnews%2F1404041521&edit-text=) Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 05:44:09 PM *sigh* Let's try again. Crypto, what happened with this Buk missile regiment rebels claimed they've captured in June? Did they lie then, or are they lying now? The best informed are Ukrainian military forces, that continue to use aviation in this area. All pictures of BUK on "news" for sure are not from that data. Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 06:36:15 PM You're terrible at this 247, gtfo Watch Kurginyan on Youtube, that saying about intentionaly damaged BUK in Donetsk.https://www.youtube.com/user/eotsuVideo/videos Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: Paya on July 19, 2014, 07:20:15 PM Rebels say they have Buk. Rebels say they don't have Buk. Rebels say they *might* have Buk, but it's not working. Rotten corpses secretly loaded into MH17. Putin's presidential plane accidentaly mixed up with MH17. Strelkov and/or his men use FB/twitter. Strelkov and/or his men do not and haven't ever been using FB/twitter. Bullshit list goes on.
Look crypto, you know that lot of people here (including me) are not against people of Donbass and their legitimate wish for independence, but the way you are commenting this latest tragedy is, to say at least, confusing and somewhat crazy. If I were you, I'd take a break and get my shit together because right now you are making your case pretty bad. Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 07:44:54 PM I wonder, why there is no CNN/FOX NEWS/Euronews?
If You will, i can give, the only one place, where Strelkov publish news and give some comment (http://forum-antikvariat.ru/topic/204348-%d0%b2%d0%be%d0%b5%d0%bd%d0%bd%d1%8b%d0%b5-%d1%81%d0%b2%d0%be%d0%b4%d0%ba%d0%b8-%d1%81-%d1%8e%d0%b3%d0%be-%d0%b2%d0%be%d1%81%d1%82%d0%be%d1%87%d0%bd%d0%be%d0%b3%d0%be-%d1%84%d1%80%d0%be%d0%bd%d1%82%d0%b0/page__st__3250#entry2188469). Is there in English something, that explain, how many time and how many KM need body to fall from 10 KM of altitude with 800 KM/H of speed? Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 07:48:31 PM Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: Benjig on July 19, 2014, 08:09:20 PM This is a picture of the BUK that fired. They transported it back to Russia. I'm Dutch and I can only blame one P. http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.fr/2014/07/russian-transport-of-buk-that-shot-down.html So this looks like the government shot down the plane, not rebels, at least this is the most likely scenario until someone confirms the opposite. Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: BitcoinMillionaire on July 19, 2014, 08:15:51 PM Can you explained what the rebel use to down this plane? Can you explain more about this picture? Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 08:35:33 PM Can you explained what the rebel use to down this plane? Can you explain more about this picture? No idea about real altitude of that flight, and about who make this screenshot. How they shoot this AN-26 is not reported, only "some number of anti aircraft systems": http://ria.ru/world/20140717/1016409306.html Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 08:47:27 PM Here is about Ukrainians to accuse Russian Federation to shoot on AN-26 ... http://www.president.gov.ua/ru/news/30746.html
From where is this picture, and where is this BUK and in what conditions i have no idea too. http://novosti.lugansk.ua/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/pgtRr0KDaV.jpg Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 10:51:38 PM New fake video of "smoking gun"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iujRSlZ-GTc City of Stary Oskol - road advertising Cтapый Ocкoл http://stalsnab.ru/contatcs/ Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: Benjig on July 19, 2014, 11:13:20 PM Can you explained what the rebel use to down this plane? Can you explain more about this picture? Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: 247crypto on July 19, 2014, 11:37:30 PM No idea, if there is something like that for 6500 meter of altitude:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/130-mm_air_defense_gun_KS-30_in_Perm.jpg Title: Re: Picture of BUK is from Kiev forces. Post by: Paya on July 19, 2014, 11:55:19 PM So that hole in the plane seems to be made with an AA gun. maybe the plane was taken down by an anti air batery gun not a missile. Shrapnel holes. Frag-HE warhead leave such marks when missile detonates in the aircraft's proximity. |
