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Title: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: EmilioMann on July 20, 2014, 04:56:57 PM You know why
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: youknowwhy on July 20, 2014, 04:57:50 PM yes ,i am You know why
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: bathrobehero on July 20, 2014, 04:58:00 PM Define scammer.
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: baby222 on July 20, 2014, 05:01:09 PM any reasons you say they are scam ? ;D
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: EmilioMann on July 20, 2014, 05:06:30 PM Concealcoin and others
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: Amph on July 20, 2014, 05:08:12 PM what if they are behind those coins? some of them maybe
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: jorneyflair on July 20, 2014, 05:11:48 PM too many fuckin scammer here recently >:(
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: brainape on July 20, 2014, 05:12:45 PM what if they are behind those coins? some of them maybe Hit that one square on the head... Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: krixzaok on July 20, 2014, 05:15:41 PM I would not say scammer itself, but I think they somehow manage to manipulate the entire system in their favor :-X
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: djm34 on July 20, 2014, 05:17:56 PM what if they are behind those coins? some of them maybe actually, this is what I am starting to think at least for icebergcoin, architectcoin. (same goes for millionnaire coin on poloniex) There are clearly better coin to add to bittrex than those... Or bittrex has been promised some %age over the IPO... If you facilitate the work of a scammer by harboring his scam... that make you a scammer too... Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: Amph on July 20, 2014, 05:25:44 PM what if they are behind those coins? some of them maybe actually, this is what I am starting to think at least for icebergcoin, architectcoin. (same goes for millionnaire coin on poloniex) There are clearly better coin to add to bittrex than those... Or bittrex has been promised some %age over the IPO... If you facilitate the work of a scammer by harboring his scam... that make you a scammer too... was always really suspicious to me, how certain coins, went on some exchanges so fast where others require weeks or more there is a pool-exchange mafia for sure out there, Minerals revealed it Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: tokyoghetto on July 20, 2014, 05:26:02 PM Concealcoin is 100% scam.
How does Cryptsy add a coin so quick, when other coins have paid votes plus regular votes and haven't been added on. My guess is that one of their cronies created the coin, with a short PoW to create panic and hype and a rush on the exchanges to trade the coin. Then Bittrex/Polo hop on the scam train and list this giant turd. 24HR PoW + Whitepaper scam = hype and huge exchange trading volume. Plain and simple. These exchanges need to be careful. I know Bittrex and Cryptsy are US Based so if they are complicit to this scam then they can be shut down. People are asking why the dev would scam if they didn't premine. Well, they don't need to premine if the scammer owns an exchange and makes money from the fees. Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: binkshurts on July 20, 2014, 05:26:15 PM criminal investigations please !
start with the exchanges -- due to negligence. Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: seedtrue on July 20, 2014, 05:30:35 PM Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: appbox on July 20, 2014, 05:34:42 PM Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: kryptologist on July 20, 2014, 06:08:08 PM duh
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: poornamelessme on July 20, 2014, 06:34:21 PM Concealcoin is 100% scam. How does Cryptsy add a coin so quick, when other coins have paid votes plus regular votes and haven't been added on. My guess is that one of their cronies created the coin, with a short PoW to create panic and hype and a rush on the exchanges to trade the coin. Possible. Then again, they added Via + Apex really quick too. I am guessing they simply are seeing Bittrex eat up their profits and plan to add coins faster now. Hence why MP probably got rid of that paid voting thing too. So I think it more likely they simply want to get that initial hype money off of new coins, rather than that crony hypothesis. It also wouldn't be in their best interest to add shady coins, but who knows... I mean, Bittrex sort of killed the golden goose with so many ICOs run close to one another. I think Polo came to their senses after Mil, with their newer ICD rules. Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: BrewCrewFan on July 20, 2014, 06:36:56 PM what if they are behind those coins? some of them maybe actually, this is what I am starting to think at least for icebergcoin, architectcoin. (same goes for millionnaire coin on poloniex) There are clearly better coin to add to bittrex than those... Or bittrex has been promised some %age over the IPO... If you facilitate the work of a scammer by harboring his scam... that make you a scammer too... was always really suspicious to me, how certain coins, went on some exchanges so fast where others require weeks or more there is a pool-exchange mafia for sure out there, Minerals revealed it My rule of thumb is always, the coin needs to be mined for a while before it even sniffs an exchange. If the coin is THAT GOOD its worth the wait. Sure I might miss out on some money, but I go away knowing I dont personally support them directly. Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: BrewCrewFan on July 20, 2014, 06:39:24 PM Concealcoin is 100% scam. How does Cryptsy add a coin so quick, when other coins have paid votes plus regular votes and haven't been added on. My guess is that one of their cronies created the coin, with a short PoW to create panic and hype and a rush on the exchanges to trade the coin. Then Bittrex/Polo hop on the scam train and list this giant turd. 24HR PoW + Whitepaper scam = hype and huge exchange trading volume. Plain and simple. These exchanges need to be careful. I know Bittrex and Cryptsy are US Based so if they are complicit to this scam then they can be shut down. People are asking why the dev would scam if they didn't premine. Well, they don't need to premine if the scammer owns an exchange and makes money from the fees. Just rent a bunch of rigs before hand when your going to launch a coin. Have them all set to go > release coin > point your rented rigs at said coin to mine the shit out of it > cash out right away on exchange > your up 10BTC if not more. Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: CryptoJohn on July 20, 2014, 07:48:55 PM criminal investigations please ! start with the exchanges -- due to negligence. careful what u wish for :/ Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: jolie on July 20, 2014, 10:18:04 PM Concealcoin is 100% scam. How does Cryptsy add a coin so quick, when other coins have paid votes plus regular votes and haven't been added on. My guess is that one of their cronies created the coin, with a short PoW to create panic and hype and a rush on the exchanges to trade the coin. Then Bittrex/Polo hop on the scam train and list this giant turd. 24HR PoW + Whitepaper scam = hype and huge exchange trading volume. Plain and simple. These exchanges need to be careful. I know Bittrex and Cryptsy are US Based so if they are complicit to this scam then they can be shut down. People are asking why the dev would scam if they didn't premine. Well, they don't need to premine if the scammer owns an exchange and makes money from the fees. Quoted for truthiness Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: jeffersonairplane on July 20, 2014, 10:21:51 PM Nothing much we can do about it as far as altcoins go, exchanges like Bittrex and Poloniex dominate the market. Just ride the waves and hopefully it doesn't crash while you're still on the boat :)
Just one reason not to keep too much of your BTC on any exchange. When C-Cex went down a few weeks ago I was so sure i was gonna get gox'd out of my Minerals. Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: bounst on July 21, 2014, 06:55:46 AM chinese is coming!
China Exchanges, like LakeBTC, HUOBI etc, will come to global market soon. Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: xandrino on July 21, 2014, 08:49:23 AM yes they are. coz they have the power to do so. and coz nobody holds them accountable to their actions.
for this reason, careful of riding along pumps and dumps Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: EmilioMann on July 22, 2014, 12:52:06 PM Scam Alert. Fake exchange: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702513.0
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: BitJohn on July 22, 2014, 01:16:37 PM My opinion I think some exchanges are behind and work closely with coin developers with money changing hands. I can say that we do not engage in that practice. Most of our dealings with devs are involving Forks updates etc.
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: Kprawn on July 22, 2014, 01:30:09 PM There are a few technologies being developed to keep them honest {Smart contracts} And also making them more transparent. With MtGox and some more failures on exchange levels, a lot of the spotlight was shine on them. ;D
You will also see regulators putting a lot of pressure on them, to be honest one of these days. And this is not only a problem with crypto currencies, it happens with fiat exchanges every year too. >:( MtGox will not be the last, we see of scammers at exchange levels. Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: MisO69 on July 22, 2014, 01:31:33 PM Yes of course they are scamming. They collude with scam coins and are probably responsible for some of them. The coins that get listed immediately on the major exchanges are likely their own creation. If anyone here thinks that the authorities are not watching and collecting data are burying their heads in the sand.
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: AliceWonder on July 22, 2014, 02:19:35 PM This is why it is best to use an exchange in your country that is registered with the appropriate financial institution in your country - like CampBX is with FinCEN.
But those exchanges don't have a lot of altcoins if any. But you don't have to use an exchange to buy altcoins, you can buy them using an escrow : A) You and seller agree on escrow agent with good rep B) You send coins to escrow (or do multisig) C) When confirmed in blockchain, you send address for altcoin to escrow agent and seller D) seller sends coins to address E) when specified coins to that address, escrow releases BTC to seller That way your BTC is never in the hands of an exchange and you won't get gox'd. You can't play day trader that way, but to be honest, all these people playing day trader help the pump and are what makes the altcoin scams profitable. Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: nutildah on August 05, 2015, 01:49:14 AM Mintpal sure was.... For all their haters, you gotta give it up to Cryptsy and Poloniex for staying up there. Sure, they probably run on fractional reserve banking, but unless there is a huge run on multiple coins at the same time, I doubt this will be a problem for them.
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: Zombier0 on August 05, 2015, 01:59:24 AM What about yobit?
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: nutildah on August 07, 2015, 12:58:44 AM How do you guys feel about bter? They've done things to both increase and decrease their credibility. But they're still there, despite the various hacks & so forth.
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: BitcoinEXpress on August 07, 2015, 04:14:55 AM I guess this puts to rest people accusing Cryptsy of taking bribes.
~BCX~ https://i.imgur.com/v5tCFRV.png Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: unusualfacts30 on August 07, 2015, 06:54:30 AM Yes.
2016 will be end of shitcoins and some of these exchanges will become regulated or eliminated and owner will end up behind the bars for being part of ponzi schemes. Also, if you aren't reporting these exchanges eventhough you know they're scam you're part of the problem. Take some responsibility ffs and stop playing victim. Save this post. Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: MR1 on August 07, 2015, 07:40:55 AM LOL Karpeles is undoubtedly one of the most sophisticated scammers of all times. Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: tyz on August 07, 2015, 10:19:26 AM All centralized exchange could be a scamming site. That's why you should trade only on decentralized exchange like the Nxt Asset Exchange or on Counterparty.
Title: Re: The owners of the major exchanges are scammers? Post by: sirslayer on August 07, 2015, 10:48:15 AM No, not any more as scammers and the trend is more towards pioneering that includes providing set of "good" coins to the consumer and at turn creating competition to ignite a market (exchange).. Im kinda looking forward to see other alt coins try to out do bitcoin...
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