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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: falllling on July 21, 2014, 10:48:04 AM



Title: Why good news didn't push price up? Capital flight it is !
Post by: falllling on July 21, 2014, 10:48:04 AM
No matter how many good news about bitcoin pop out everyday, bitcoin's price is still going down

confused? disappointed? sad? why bitcoin price drops easily when bad news come out ?
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Because
After all those bubbles & pools easily > %50 hash & crackers and governments and shit having 1200k coins(mtgox 200k, Ross Ulbricht 140k, crackers: 850k) people has lost faith in bitcoin!

The Bitcoin fundamentals has broken, people found out that bitcoin can not be saved after all! We all know Bitcoin is in fact centralized / controlled by few groups but most of you are still trying to escape the reality and bury your heads in the sand, are you afraid of the pain of money losing or trying to scam more people to join so you can sell higher like a ponzi scheme?

Then why Dell/Expedia/Newegg/.. accepting bitcoin?
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Because
Large companies see the crash is coming, speculators and investors is going to sell off soon or later, huge money is leaving bitcoin and those companies are building more exit routes so they can earn some $$$ from the capital flight, once bitcoin market hasn't enough fund, they can just remove the "pay with bitcoin" button, what an easy job for them

the money is leaving that's why the market volume is very low, the "get rich quick" dream has broken, the bubble is gone, now what?

Never listen again to those people who told you about: "compare to 201x year, the price was $xxx and now the price has raised up, bitcoin still has potential"
They are just fooling you! one day when bitcoin hit $0.01, they will still try to convince you: "compare to few years ago, bitcoin only worthed $0.00000001 or totally free, that's 1000000 times profit! so come on you should buy more"

A big crash is coming, You are going to lose all of your money if you do not sell asap!



Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: 00null on July 21, 2014, 10:51:01 AM
How much do you get paid for constantly prophesying an imminent apocalypse?


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: Rub3n on July 21, 2014, 11:07:10 AM
Good news never secured the BTC price (exept when china was still in), bad news did. However, bad news is running out on idea's ;)


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: blatchcorn on July 21, 2014, 11:24:57 AM
This is your worst attempt at trolling yet.

You said we would never see $600 bitcoin again in the June bear trap.  Why should we listen to you?


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: falllling on July 21, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
This is your worst attempt at trolling yet.

You said we would never see $600 bitcoin again in the June bear trap.  Why should we listen to you?

Yes, i did say that, somehow there were few small speculaters pushed the price a little bit to around $620, however this will not last long (most like in few days the price will break down back to $5xx)


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: bitleif on July 21, 2014, 11:32:45 AM
Because despite popular opinion on this board, "news" isn't what drives bitcoin prices, and it never has been.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: maker88 on July 21, 2014, 11:39:03 AM
This is your worst attempt at trolling yet.

You said we would never see $600 bitcoin again in the June bear trap.  Why should we listen to you?

Yes, i did say that, somehow there were few small speculaters pushed the price a little bit to around $620, however this will not last long (most like in few days the price will break down back to $5xx)

probably not since last time you said it was going to 500 it didn't go near it, you said 400-300 last month and it didn't go close. still not going to happen.
No matter how many good news about bitcoin pop out everyday, bitcoin's price is still going down

confused? disappointed? sad? why?



bitcoins price didn't go down. its still 620s, same as last week. you always claim its going down when it obviously isn't. confused as to why you're always wrong? disappointed that none of your claims ever come true? sad that you're likely the dumbest person to ever grace these forums?? we don't care you're a clown. honestly what the hell is wrong with you?


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: falllling on July 21, 2014, 11:41:03 AM
Because despite popular opinion on this board, "news" isn't what drives bitcoin prices, and it never has been.

no, it happened all the time before, bitcoin price history chart shows about it

bitcoin's price used to link with the Media news, now too but only links with "bad news", bad news still bring huge impacts on bitcoin


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: roslinpl on July 21, 2014, 11:51:15 AM
No matter how many good news about bitcoin pop out everyday, bitcoin's price is still going down

Maybe we are looking at not the same charts my friend....

Bitcoin price is going down ??? WHAT A NONSENSE.

http://btc-embassy.com.fqdns.net/charts/price.jpg


:) please study price charts better and then spread meaningless FUD.

Regards.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: kryptopojken on July 21, 2014, 12:10:54 PM
I'm not sure what the most positive effect of the next bubble is, the fact that my coins rise in value or the fact that idiot trolls like fallllling disappear from the forums or at least stop posting for a while


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: zetaray on July 21, 2014, 12:14:55 PM
If have larger and larger retailers accepting bitcoin, it is difficult for bitcoin prices to crash. Stop spreading FUD! Sell all you want, I am holding mine.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: Soccruo on July 21, 2014, 12:16:51 PM
No matter how many good news about bitcoin pop out everyday, bitcoin's price is still going down

confused? disappointed? sad? why bitcoin price drops easily when bad news come out ?

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Because after all those bubbles & pools easily > %50 hash & crackers and governments and shit having 1200k coins(mtgox 200k, Ross Ulbricht 140k, crackers: 850k) people has lost faith in bitcoin!
The Bitcoin fundamentals has broken, people found out that bitcoin can not be saved after all!

the "get rich quick" dream has broken, the bubble is gone, now what?

Never listen again to those people who told you about: "compare to 201x year, the price was $xxx and now the price has raised up, bitcoin still has potential"
They are just fooling you! one day when bitcoin hit $0.01, they will still try to convince you: "compare to few years ago, bitcoin only worthed $0.00000001 or totally free, that's 1000000 times profit! so come on you should buy more"

A big crash is coming, You are going to lose all of your money if you do not sell asap!



I'm not an expert but it's normal to have a calm period after a bubble burst, the price will rally again but it will take its time.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: esse83 on July 21, 2014, 12:18:21 PM
Because despite popular opinion on this board, "news" isn't what drives bitcoin prices, and it never has been.

Well sorta true, there is usually an exception to this, however. If the good news coincides with an on-going bullmarket it will add fuel to the fire. But, as it is now, there is no fire.  


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: spazzdla on July 21, 2014, 01:55:02 PM
How much do you get paid for constantly prophesying an imminent apocalypse?

I think OP sold his  BTC at $360 and now cries himself to sleep everynight.  One night he decided if he spreads enough FUD the price will drop.  Not even China FUD can drive the price down but the OP thinks he can..


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: BurtW on July 21, 2014, 02:18:07 PM
falllling:  is that you igorr?

If not you two should really get together, you have so much in common and so much to talk about.  I see a bromance in your futures.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=467191.0;topicseen


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: WhatTheGox on July 21, 2014, 02:21:25 PM

Never worrying about bitcoin price going down if people are saying its going to go down ;)


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: tinof on July 21, 2014, 02:44:08 PM
The poster probably trying to talk down bitcoin price so he can scoop up some.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: NamelessOne on July 21, 2014, 02:46:44 PM
I've read this thread about 700 times over the last three.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: Paashaas on July 21, 2014, 02:52:57 PM
No matter how many good news about bitcoin pop out everyday, bitcoin's price is still going down

confused? disappointed? sad? why bitcoin price drops easily when bad news come out ?

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Because after all those bubbles & pools easily > %50 hash & crackers and governments and shit having 1200k coins(mtgox 200k, Ross Ulbricht 140k, crackers: 850k) people has lost faith in bitcoin!
The Bitcoin fundamentals has broken, people found out that bitcoin can not be saved after all!
the "get rich quick" dream has broken, the bubble is gone, now what?

Never listen again to those people who told you about: "compare to 201x year, the price was $xxx and now the price has raised up, bitcoin still has potential"
They are just fooling you! one day when bitcoin hit $0.01, they will still try to convince you: "compare to few years ago, bitcoin only worthed $0.00000001 or totally free, that's 1000000 times profit! so come on you should buy more"

A big crash is coming, You are going to lose all of your money if you do not sell asap!

After all those FUD posts, there is still not even 1 guy who agrees with you  ::)

I think OP sold his  BTC at $360 and now cries himself to sleep everynight.  One night he decided if he spreads enough FUD the price will drop.  Not even China FUD can drive the price down but the OP thinks he can..

Pretty much this.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: Ron~Popeil on July 21, 2014, 03:42:05 PM
The side ways movement is a good thing. The crazy ups and downs tend to scare people and businesses away from bit coin. Slow and steady growth is exactly what we need.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: byronbb on July 21, 2014, 04:13:48 PM
Because despite popular opinion on this board, "news" isn't what drives bitcoin prices, and it never has been.

News most certainly affected this market in the past.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: Bitobsessed on July 21, 2014, 04:31:21 PM
Because despite popular opinion on this board, "news" isn't what drives bitcoin prices, and it never has been.

News most certainly affected this market in the past.
It absolutely did.  The "news" still has to have an affect, it is just not as obvious as is was before. 

I think big investors have already looked past general news that some people think is big news like Dell. 

There is a lot bigger stuff happening to bitcoin behind closed doors.





Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: azguard on July 21, 2014, 07:47:54 PM
Dell is sure big company that will be in big way pleased that if happens with price goes up.

Sure it will pop up but loth of forum members thinks its August on poll and others speculate that it will be like last November or even first quarter of 2015.



Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: WillyBTC on July 21, 2014, 07:53:01 PM
Is falllling the new Fonzie? ;D


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: EricTyle on July 21, 2014, 08:16:39 PM
The part that floors me is the part where the 1.2m bitcoins is a big deal. That's roughly 9% of the current supply, and shrinks every day?



Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: galbros on July 21, 2014, 10:15:39 PM
I'm pretty sure the news of the US Marshall auction results moved the market back up.  While I'm a little disappointed that the Dell announcement didn't have a bigger impact I think the reason is that it is essentially a Coinbase deal.  Adding Dell doesn't mean Coinbase has to hold more coins, so there is no net buying on account of the news.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: maker88 on July 21, 2014, 10:25:25 PM
No matter how many good news about bitcoin pop out everyday, bitcoin's price is still going down

confused? disappointed? sad? why bitcoin price drops easily when bad news come out ?

Quote
Because after all those bubbles & pools easily > %50 hash & crackers and governments and shit having 1200k coins(mtgox 200k, Ross Ulbricht 140k, crackers: 850k) people has lost faith in bitcoin!
The Bitcoin fundamentals has broken, people found out that bitcoin can not be saved after all!
the "get rich quick" dream has broken, the bubble is gone, now what?

Never listen again to those people who told you about: "compare to 201x year, the price was $xxx and now the price has raised up, bitcoin still has potential"
They are just fooling you! one day when bitcoin hit $0.01, they will still try to convince you: "compare to few years ago, bitcoin only worthed $0.00000001 or totally free, that's 1000000 times profit! so come on you should buy more"

A big crash is coming, You are going to lose all of your money if you do not sell asap!

After all those FUD posts, there is still not even 1 guy who agrees with you  ::)


seriously haha even the most hardcore trolls have at least a few new people who think what they're saying has merit. maybe its because failing doesn't just troll, he goes full retard on every single post. you never go full retard..


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: Undefeatable on July 22, 2014, 12:15:05 PM
Good news would definitely save Bitcoin, "CHINA UNBAN BITCOIN". You would know what happen..


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: ajareselde on July 22, 2014, 04:45:06 PM
Good news would definitely save Bitcoin, "CHINA UNBAN BITCOIN". You would know what happen..

There is nothing to save, bitcoin will do fine with or withouth China.
On the other hand, if you are interested in increasing the price in short time, then bitcoin needs some sort of hype, which can be easily created through decent PR.
Dont know why its not being allready done..


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: blumangroup on July 22, 2014, 07:42:14 PM
Good news would definitely save Bitcoin, "CHINA UNBAN BITCOIN". You would know what happen..

There is nothing to save, bitcoin will do fine with or withouth China.
On the other hand, if you are interested in increasing the price in short time, then bitcoin needs some sort of hype, which can be easily created through decent PR.
Dont know why its not being allready done..
Bitcoin will survive with or without China, however the Chinese government not allowing bitcoin to be used in China is hampering the amount of investment in bitcoin from China.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: giveBTCpls on July 22, 2014, 10:44:07 PM
Another thread that will be looked at in 5 years in shame/amusement. You need to calm down, relax and sit comfortably. People is not going to let Bitcoin drop too low, at least not enough to call it a critical crash, because there is so much people that missed the boat butthurt about it that will jump on it as soon as possible.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: Kipsy89 on July 22, 2014, 10:46:34 PM
Because despite popular opinion on this board, "news" isn't what drives bitcoin prices, and it never has been.

News most certainly affected this market in the past.

This really is some quality thread  ;D
Well if OP believes that price was driven by speculation... Well, what drives speculation? News! The price definitely still reacts to news. But positive news among the lines of "Retailer XYZ accepts BTC" has become almost a common thing now, man. But we'll talk again when Amazon accepts Bitcoin  ;D


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: jongaper on July 23, 2014, 01:01:54 AM
https://warosu.org/data/cgl/img/0074/80/1396830944990.jpg

No matter how many good news about bitcoin pop out everyday, bitcoin's price is still going down

confused? disappointed? sad? why bitcoin price drops easily when bad news come out ?

Quote
Because after all those bubbles & pools easily > %50 hash & crackers and governments and shit having 1200k coins(mtgox 200k, Ross Ulbricht 140k, crackers: 850k) people has lost faith in bitcoin!
The Bitcoin fundamentals has broken, people found out that bitcoin can not be saved after all!

the "get rich quick" dream has broken, the bubble is gone, now what?

Never listen again to those people who told you about: "compare to 201x year, the price was $xxx and now the price has raised up, bitcoin still has potential"
They are just fooling you! one day when bitcoin hit $0.01, they will still try to convince you: "compare to few years ago, bitcoin only worthed $0.00000001 or totally free, that's 1000000 times profit! so come on you should buy more"

A big crash is coming, You are going to lose all of your money if you do not sell asap!




Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: boraf on July 23, 2014, 02:32:29 AM
Fundamental for bitcoin still looking positive. Market adaptation still expanding. Price is stable.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: Benjig on July 23, 2014, 05:27:16 AM
http://i61.tinypic.com/a2doqb.jpg


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: LostDutchman on July 23, 2014, 05:28:33 AM
No matter how many good news about bitcoin pop out everyday, bitcoin's price is still going down

confused? disappointed? sad? why bitcoin price drops easily when bad news come out ?

Quote
Because after all those bubbles & pools easily > %50 hash & crackers and governments and shit having 1200k coins(mtgox 200k, Ross Ulbricht 140k, crackers: 850k) people has lost faith in bitcoin!
The Bitcoin fundamentals has broken, people found out that bitcoin can not be saved after all!

the "get rich quick" dream has broken, the bubble is gone, now what?

Never listen again to those people who told you about: "compare to 201x year, the price was $xxx and now the price has raised up, bitcoin still has potential"
They are just fooling you! one day when bitcoin hit $0.01, they will still try to convince you: "compare to few years ago, bitcoin only worthed $0.00000001 or totally free, that's 1000000 times profit! so come on you should buy more"

A big crash is coming, You are going to lose all of your money if you do not sell asap!



Horseshit.

You work for BFL or what?

Halfwit.


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: falllling on July 23, 2014, 06:43:32 AM
Fundamental for bitcoin still looking positive. Market adaptation still expanding. Price is stable.

Large companies see the crash is coming, speculators and investors will soon sell off what so ever, huge money is leaving bitcoin and those companies are helping the way and earn some $$$ from it, once bitcoin market has no more enough fund, they will just remove the "pay with bitcoin" button, easy job


Title: Re: Good news won't save Bitcoin's price any more
Post by: Newbie1022 on July 23, 2014, 06:50:16 AM
Fundamental for bitcoin still looking positive. Market adaptation still expanding. Price is stable.

Large companies see the crash is coming, speculators and investors will soon sell off what so ever, huge money is leaving bitcoin and those companies are helping the way and earn some $$$ from it, once bitcoin market has no more enough fund, they will just remove the "pay with bitcoin" button, easy job

This is wrong because like all markets Wall Street has to figure out how to fleece people using it... that, usually, requires a bubble. Hence, I cynically believe we may be going up (and then the ride may continue for a while when the broader economy tanks because the coins will have some utility as a store  of value). I highly doubt it is a forever thing, though. Highly highly doubt.


Title: Re: Why good news didn't push price up? Capital flight it is !
Post by: sandykho47 on July 23, 2014, 09:10:33 AM
No matter how many good news about bitcoin pop out everyday, bitcoin's price is still going down

Because the good news is not good enough to push price up  ;D
And $600 price is very stable price for now

Good news would definitely save Bitcoin, "CHINA UNBAN BITCOIN". You would know what happen..

I bet bitcoin price will push about about 10% - 50%  8)



Title: Re: Why good news didn't push price up? Capital flight it is !
Post by: LostDutchman on July 23, 2014, 09:15:29 AM
No matter how many good news about bitcoin pop out everyday, bitcoin's price is still going down

Because the good news is not good enough to push price up  ;D
And $600 price is very stable price for now

Good news would definitely save Bitcoin, "CHINA UNBAN BITCOIN". You would know what happen..

I bet bitcoin price will push about about 10% - 50%  8)



Fuck China.


Title: Re: Why good news didn't push price up? Capital flight it is !
Post by: Ardenyham on July 23, 2014, 09:29:04 AM
Good news would be if number of daily transactions increase a lot, or if the Bitcoins from big company sales are used to pay employees instead of instantly converting to USD.


Title: Re: Why good news didn't push price up? Capital flight it is !
Post by: falllling on July 24, 2014, 12:48:09 PM
Ethereum is a new reason for bitcoin capital flight, bitcoin adoption rate is decreasing


Title: Re: Why good news didn't push price up? Capital flight it is !
Post by: maker88 on July 25, 2014, 12:45:20 AM
bitcoin adoption rate is decreasing

says who? and no, you do not count.


Title: Re: Why good news didn't push price up? Capital flight it is !
Post by: InwardContour on July 25, 2014, 05:20:34 AM
bitcoin adoption rate is decreasing

says who? and no, you do not count.

How can you say that the adoption rate is descreasing, in the lasts months there were major companies which adopted bitcoin, and more will follow soon.


Title: Re: Why good news didn't push price up? Capital flight it is !
Post by: Ron~Popeil on July 25, 2014, 05:16:36 PM
bitcoin adoption rate is decreasing

says who? and no, you do not count.

How can you say that the adoption rate is descreasing, in the lasts months there were major companies which adopted bitcoin, and more will follow soon.

Yeah this doesn't even make sense. Why in the world would large companies put together a bit coin payment infrastructure only to take it down if they are expecting a crash. Good FUD should at least be coherent.


Title: Re: Why good news didn't push price up? Capital flight it is !
Post by: InwardContour on July 25, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
bitcoin adoption rate is decreasing

says who? and no, you do not count.

How can you say that the adoption rate is descreasing, in the lasts months there were major companies which adopted bitcoin, and more will follow soon.

He stated that bitcoin is falllling to zero, but in my opinion he's triyng to lower the btc value to buy more :)


Title: Re: Why good news didn't push price up? Capital flight it is !
Post by: maker88 on July 26, 2014, 01:17:33 AM
bitcoin adoption rate is decreasing

says who? and no, you do not count.

How can you say that the adoption rate is descreasing, in the lasts months there were major companies which adopted bitcoin, and more will follow soon.

exactly, he just claims things are decreasing when he wants to, with no regard for facts or measurements. bitcoin adoption is decreasing because failing said so. everyone knows big business gets into something right before it totally fails, thats how they became international companies, by making bad calls.


Title: Re: Why good news didn't push price up? Capital flight it is !
Post by: arbitrage001 on July 26, 2014, 04:25:29 AM
Ethereum is a new reason for bitcoin capital flight, bitcoin adoption rate is decreasing


While investors are buying, the founder and developers are selling and laughing all the way to the bank.