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Title: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: slaveforanunnak1 on July 22, 2014, 06:37:30 AM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericxlmu/2014/07/21/chinese-bitcoiner-made-physical-bitcoin-in-pure-gold/

Waant


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: wenben on July 22, 2014, 06:42:39 AM
Nice.

How much premium they charge to make such coin?


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: Taras on July 22, 2014, 07:40:15 AM
Casascius made pure gold coins a few years ago :P


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: ljudotina on July 22, 2014, 07:41:57 AM
Now that's smart investment. Spread around but still kept very close. Whatever happens, he has something that will have value in forseable future.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on July 22, 2014, 07:43:25 AM
Casascius made pure gold coins a few years ago :P

True enough but they have been out of market for a while now if I recall correctly
Needs a new mint :)
https://www.casascius.com/

The coins, made of pure gold, weigh one ounce each and have their private keys engraved on the back in 2D barcode, enabling the owners to access them by using smartphones – the images were pixelated for anyone who intend to try his luck. Because each coin contains a unique serial number and unique barcode pattern, they all had to be individually crafted, which made the process quite time consuming. It took the author three months to produce a total of 101 coins.

Still its nice to see some more on the market and they look nice.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: Lethn on July 22, 2014, 08:23:25 AM
I'm going to be pedantic but as far as I know you can't have 'pure' gold but you can have .99 gold and various carats.

>_< aside from the obvious journalism fail they look nice they seem to be a lot like Casascius' coins but fancier, which lets be honest is a bit unusual for the Chinese because they're mainly known for making cheap copies.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: Ilsk on July 22, 2014, 09:16:33 AM
Lol, the guy who took the photos now has all the private keys  :D


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: Lauda on July 22, 2014, 09:26:14 AM
Lol, the guy who took the photos now has all the private keys  :D
I'm pretty sure the owner of those coins made those photos for him. One can not be that dumb and be able to make such great coins in the same time.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: CharHill on July 22, 2014, 01:51:28 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericxlmu/2014/07/21/chinese-bitcoiner-made-physical-bitcoin-in-pure-gold/

Waant

But with physical coins, btc will lost status of cryptocurrency! Do you really want it, or i missed some facts about btc??


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: Beliathon on July 22, 2014, 02:00:37 PM
A beautiful coin, but call me racist or whatever you want but I would be a bit concerned buying a gold coin from China...
Racist. Well, at least you knew you were being a racist. That's something.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: DjPxH on July 22, 2014, 02:23:34 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericxlmu/2014/07/21/chinese-bitcoiner-made-physical-bitcoin-in-pure-gold/

Waant

Chinese are known to be gold bugs. Since bitcoin incorporates some of the very core fundamentals of Gold) scarcity, rather predictable supply, etc. it's logical to assume there'd be many people who would want to buy themselves some shiny coins. Think Casascius.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: williamj2543 on July 22, 2014, 02:25:35 PM
Its a nice idea. I am guessing this would be good for cold storage. I remember a few years ago some guy also sold these, and litecoins, and different divisions of bitcoin, but he got shut down or something.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: ajareselde on July 22, 2014, 03:41:07 PM
Am i the only one here thats missing the point in this?!
We're supposed to promote bitcoin, and its use, and store of value vs things like paper money and gold..

You are bonding with the enemy here :P


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: Eotnak on July 22, 2014, 03:49:31 PM
PSA:  Physical coins are collectors items, and not a good cold storage method.  Especially if you buy them used.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: odolvlobo on July 22, 2014, 03:58:27 PM
Titan mint is also selling 1 oz. gold physical bitcoins: https://www.titanbtc.com/product/titan-one-gold/


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: InwardContour on July 22, 2014, 04:04:45 PM
Those gold bitcoins can be sold in the future at collectors, it can be a nice investment depending on the demand and the quantity of the coins delivered.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: cr1776 on July 22, 2014, 06:12:03 PM
A beautiful coin, but call me racist or whatever you want but I would be a bit concerned buying a gold coin from China, there is a lot of Tungsten filled bars and coins in China that are tried to be passed off as .999 pure gold. A random person there is not enough confidence for me to be paying for such an item.

It isn't racist to acknowledge the fact theat there have been a lot of problems with "gold" that turned out to have a lot of tungsten coming from China. :-)


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: keithers on July 22, 2014, 06:16:57 PM
I think silver is really the way to go right now.   Just think about it...in the event of a complete financial collapse, if gold prices skyrocket...and you have all this gold...how would you plan on dividing it up when you need to make smaller purchases?   Are you going to bite off pieces of gold???  Unless you plan on only making large purchases...silver will be an easier medium of exchange...


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: CharHill on July 22, 2014, 07:02:58 PM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericxlmu/2014/07/21/chinese-bitcoiner-made-physical-bitcoin-in-pure-gold/

Waant

But with physical coins, btc will lost status of cryptocurrency! Do you really want it, or i missed some facts about btc??
Usually with Physical coins it is more or less a neat safe storage method, with this though it would be more of a show off then a investment. The coins would probably never be pulled from there and it would be valuable as a collectors item.

Yes, you right. But btc stucture implies all criteria of currency, and i don't think, that physical coins let start to up btc project at all.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: cr1776 on July 23, 2014, 12:06:06 AM
A beautiful coin, but call me racist or whatever you want but I would be a bit concerned buying a gold coin from China, there is a lot of Tungsten filled bars and coins in China that are tried to be passed off as .999 pure gold. A random person there is not enough confidence for me to be paying for such an item.

It isn't racist to acknowledge the fact theat there have been a lot of problems with "gold" that turned out to have a lot of tungsten coming from China. :-)
That's what im just trying to make sure everyone realizes before they trust a random man from China making these, even though they were for a "private collection" i would see him "selling his services" very soon and producing these.

I agree.  ;-)


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: lihuajkl on July 23, 2014, 02:35:58 AM
A beautiful coin, but call me racist or whatever you want but I would be a bit concerned buying a gold coin from China, there is a lot of Tungsten filled bars and coins in China that are tried to be passed off as .999 pure gold. A random person there is not enough confidence for me to be paying for such an item.

It isn't racist to acknowledge the fact theat there have been a lot of problems with "gold" that turned out to have a lot of tungsten coming from China. :-)
That's what im just trying to make sure everyone realizes before they trust a random man from China making these, even though they were for a "private collection" i would see him "selling his services" very soon and producing these.

I agree.  ;-)
Don't you read the artical carefully? It is not for market consumption and circulation. He was commissioned to do these by businessman friend. His friend will trust him do the job well as he was requested.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on July 23, 2014, 11:09:10 AM
nice piece, would buy one :)


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: BowieMan on July 23, 2014, 12:05:55 PM
Yeah, that's what I call the next generation Casascius coins! But is it really necessary to make those coins from some worthless material? ;)


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: franky1 on July 23, 2014, 02:28:38 PM
Nice.

How much premium they charge to make such coin?

i estimate sale value as $2000

$1300 for the gold
$600 for the bitcoin
and $100 for the smelting/labour/profit


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on July 23, 2014, 04:12:04 PM
Nice.

How much premium they charge to make such coin?

i estimate sale value as $2000

$1300 for the gold
$600 for the bitcoin
and $100 for the smelting/labour/profit

would be okay for me  :)


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: Nathan101 on July 23, 2014, 04:44:11 PM
It is a nice idea. I really like this. How much charge they are going to take?


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: idev on July 23, 2014, 04:50:08 PM
Casascius made pure gold coins a few years ago :P
Exactly this guy is not the first and I'm sure he won't be the last person either.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: jbreher on July 23, 2014, 05:07:35 PM
Casascius made pure gold coins a few years ago :P
Exactly this guy is not the first and I'm sure he won't be the last person either.

Except Casascius gold coins were in a denomination of 1000 BTC:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54845.0


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: abercrombie on July 23, 2014, 05:09:32 PM
Pretty awesome.  I've like to do similar but using cheaper materials since I'm kinda poor.  

What I would like engraved is the private key encrypted in BIP-38.  I just don't like the idea that the persons minting the coin will have access to the private QRC code.

Side note, I like how Forbes & Bloomberg are Bitcoin friendly media outlets.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: cbeast on July 23, 2014, 07:22:58 PM
A beautiful coin, but call me racist or whatever you want but I would be a bit concerned buying a gold coin from China, there is a lot of Tungsten filled bars and coins in China that are tried to be passed off as .999 pure gold. A random person there is not enough confidence for me to be paying for such an item.
Like this?
http://www.tungsten-alloy.com/tungsten-alloy-scan-gold-coin.html (http://www.tungsten-alloy.com/tungsten-alloy-scan-gold-coin.html)


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: cdog on July 23, 2014, 07:30:16 PM
I think silver is really the way to go right now.   Just think about it...in the event of a complete financial collapse, if gold prices skyrocket...and you have all this gold...how would you plan on dividing it up when you need to make smaller purchases?   Are you going to bite off pieces of gold???  Unless you plan on only making large purchases...silver will be an easier medium of exchange...

Agreed, thats why you want a significant amount of silver as well. And ammo, gas, food, drinking water, and medical supplies.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: nwfella on July 23, 2014, 07:32:04 PM
That is one helluva a sexy coin!  So correct me if I'm wrong but there is a QR code for both the public and private keys?


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: BittBurger on July 23, 2014, 07:44:51 PM
I would have bought one.... except the words on the coin are juvenile and amateur as hell sounding.

Full sentences explaining what it is LOL :  "THE WORLDS FIRST GOLD-BACKED PHYSICAL BITCOINS"

Horrible.  You dont put that on a coin.  You put something Latin, or short and awesome and aloof sounding.  That shit goes on the certificate of authenticity.  Not the coin.

"OPEN SOURCE P2P MONEY" <--- you dont put that on the coin itself.   Smh ...

Terrible.


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: odolvlobo on July 23, 2014, 09:12:21 PM
Did anyone notice that the world is backwards on the coin?


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on July 23, 2014, 10:13:45 PM
Casascius made pure gold coins a few years ago :P
Exactly this guy is not the first and I'm sure he won't be the last person either.

Except Casascius gold coins were in a denomination of 1000 BTC:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=54845.0

If only I was around and bought ONE just one back then
That would be a lifer coin unless I was an idiot and lost it somehow or had the most wild night in Vegas and lost it all but probably not lol.

Did anyone notice that the world is backwards on the coin?


A joke perhaps if you dig a hole deep enough you end up in China


Title: Re: bitcoin in pure gold
Post by: OgNasty on July 24, 2014, 04:53:43 AM
Does that coin even have any tamper proofing on it?  Laughable that they're claiming to be the first.  Looks to me like they're pretty damn far behind the curve...