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Title: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: odolvlobo on July 24, 2014, 12:58:21 AM
When you send bitcoins from Coinbase, it now asks you this question:

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Are you sending to another bitcoin service or exchange?

Their justification for this question is:

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When sending bitcoin from Coinbase to an off-site address, you may be asked "are you sending to another bitcoin service or exchange?" If you are not, you can simply click "No." If you are, you must click "Yes" and specify the URL of the website of the destination bitcoin service or exchange.

When sending money to external accounts we are required to gather a bit of information before processing the transaction. Coinbase is federally registered as a Money Service Business (MSB). In order to comply with federal regulations, we must know if money is sent from a Coinbase account to a financial institution, in this case a bitcoin service or exchange.

Answering YES to this question helps Coinbase and the U.S. government to track your coins. I urge everyone to always select NO, regardless of where the bitcoins are being sent.


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: devthedev on July 24, 2014, 01:52:15 AM
Yeah, I'm not too sure about the MSB registration... Coinbase is getting shadier and shadier.


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: Mieehayii on July 24, 2014, 03:27:21 AM
Never use coinbase again!


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: devthedev on July 24, 2014, 03:30:43 AM
The Green address system is a great alternative. I'd consider it safer than blockchain.info


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: ruggedman_dan on July 25, 2014, 03:52:04 PM
Coinbase: The PayPal of Bitcoin


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: galbros on July 25, 2014, 10:34:54 PM
Coinbase: The PayPal of Bitcoin

Well put, could not agree more.  Basically they are having to make compromises to go legit.  Hopefully, they will be as successful as Paypal.


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: sandykho47 on July 26, 2014, 06:11:04 AM
Seriously  >:(
Just use another online wallet

I never use CoinBase because, blockchain.info is safer & more anonymous

Coinbase: The PayPal of Bitcoin

with U.S government tracking feature

Coinbase: The PayPal of Bitcoin

Well put, could not agree more.  Basically they are having to make compromises to go legit.  Hopefully, they will be as successful as Paypal.

I think not successful as Paypal


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: farlack on July 27, 2014, 12:43:27 AM
Seriously  >:(
Just use another online wallet

I never use CoinBase because, blockchain.info is safer & more anonymous

Coinbase: The PayPal of Bitcoin

with U.S government tracking feature

Coinbase: The PayPal of Bitcoin

Well put, could not agree more.  Basically they are having to make compromises to go legit.  Hopefully, they will be as successful as Paypal.

I think not successful as Paypal

Coinbase isn't just a wallet you can buy bitcoin instantly with your bank account.


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: ruggedman_dan on July 28, 2014, 07:12:33 AM
Coinbase: The PayPal of Bitcoin


Well put, could not agree more.  Basically they are having to make compromises to go legit.  Hopefully, they will be as successful as Paypal.

Yeah they offer a very necessary service right now. Decent price and convenience are a rarity in the bitcoin space.


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: onezerobit on July 28, 2014, 11:17:41 PM
Well....that seems like a price to pay for every Exchange that will come out of US.

Isnt that the reason, that made Kraken move its base from California?


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: desticy on July 29, 2014, 03:47:07 AM
This is not a good start


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: zahra4571 on July 29, 2014, 01:34:13 PM
Never used before coinbase wallet, this is ridiculous, they want to know the origin of earned btc and what we used for, expecting their collapse soon.


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: leex1528 on July 29, 2014, 07:24:04 PM
Besides coinbase, are there any other wallets that sell directly from the account and are reliable and safe? 

I should mention this is not mass quantities, usually smaller transactions then 1BTC and not very often


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: abercrombie on August 01, 2014, 02:43:56 PM
Odolvlobo, I haven't received such a message (yet) and I transfer BTC nearly on a weekly basis.

Your account might be flagged.  This past week, I've seen a reddit post indicating the user was flagged for selling on LBC.

Ref: http://redd.it/2c63xg

You may have to rethink your strategy on how much you send at a time, and per day.  Anything of value over $2999 needs to be documented for the Feds due to AML.


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on August 01, 2014, 02:45:30 PM
Stop fucking using coinbase, how hard is that?


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: nahtnam on August 01, 2014, 11:52:24 PM
I have never seen a message like that before.


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: ajw7989 on August 02, 2014, 01:58:20 AM
I use coinbase on an almost daily basis and have not seen any of these weird messages and I use it to both buy bitcoins and deposit and withdraw bitcoins from other addresses


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: Anastasio on August 07, 2014, 06:28:34 AM
I have to say, its getting crazier and crazier with the "mainstream" bitcoin crowd. I sort of stopped following the bitcoin community in May of 2013. Before then, I was able to buy Bitcoins with money transfers with a bogus name, no questions asked from the little Mexican Market I would use Moneygram with. Then I started following and using bitcoins again this past March. Someone pointed me to coinbase and I found it unbelievable. I then heard about ATM's popping up now needing an ID scan or palm print.

All of this shit is going to drive it back to the underground market. A Bitcoin "ATM" just opened up in the city I live, has very convenient pricing, but fuck that. I gotta give my ID, which may mean nothing in the end, but why the fuck would I want anyone I dont know, possibly snooping into my personal life.

Just like this Stellar thing. Link your facebook for free Stellar! Bullshit I'll give my information to a cryptocurrency company. Who the fuck knows who will try and hack it and get my info, possibly trying to fraud me.


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: virtapayseller666 on August 07, 2014, 09:06:11 AM
From now i will use this https://blockchain.info/ i always use conbase before that because of less fees and i found this blockchain website this fees is 0.06$ minimum Fees so from now i will use this website


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: keithers on August 07, 2014, 05:44:18 PM
Based on how things are developing, I am expecting them to be the first BTC company to start sending out 1099s


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: leex1528 on August 07, 2014, 05:47:44 PM
Based on how things are developing, I am expecting them to be the first BTC company to start sending out 1099s

Which probably won't happen for at least a few years.

I don't see how they could tax you on bitcoins you sell at this point in time.  Because one they haven't clearly defined how it works if you mine the coins.  What is to stop you from saying you mined some coins? 

I think we will all be good for a couple years before we get taxed anything on them..


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: keithers on August 07, 2014, 05:53:39 PM
Based on how things are developing, I am expecting them to be the first BTC company to start sending out 1099s

Which probably won't happen for at least a few years.

I don't see how they could tax you on bitcoins you sell at this point in time.  Because one they haven't clearly defined how it works if you mine the coins.  What is to stop you from saying you mined some coins? 

I think we will all be good for a couple years before we get taxed anything on them..

They definitely are headed that direction with all the reporting options they now have when you log into your account.   They make it seem like it is a feature, but it is definitely so that it can be tracked.   They are still the most convenient, but on the regulation side they are definitely on the forefront


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: leex1528 on August 07, 2014, 05:57:20 PM

They definitely are headed that direction with all the reporting options they now have when you log into your account.   They make it seem like it is a feature, but it is definitely so that it can be tracked.   They are still the most convenient, but on the regulation side they are definitely on the forefront

hmmm...What reporting options?  I have logged in everyday haven't seen anything about reporting anything?




Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: valvalis on August 07, 2014, 06:08:41 PM
Coinbase: The PayPal of Bitcoin

Well put, could not agree more.  Basically they are having to make compromises to go legit.  Hopefully, they will be as successful as Paypal.

If the government interfered in bitcoin, so what's the difference with fiat? don't let the government interfere in bitcoin. Bitcoin is independent currency


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: keithers on August 07, 2014, 06:09:12 PM

They definitely are headed that direction with all the reporting options they now have when you log into your account.   They make it seem like it is a feature, but it is definitely so that it can be tracked.   They are still the most convenient, but on the regulation side they are definitely on the forefront

hmmm...What reporting options?  I have logged in everyday haven't seen anything about reporting anything?





The advanced reporting options that track the histories of buys and sells


Title: Re: Coinbase -- now tracking your bitcoins
Post by: leex1528 on August 07, 2014, 06:22:35 PM

The advanced reporting options that track the histories of buys and sells

ahh....Those have been there for like 8 months so I wouldn't exactly call them new features...