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Title: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: Virtue on July 24, 2014, 11:28:13 PM
The Obama administration on Thursday accused Russia of firing artillery from its territory into Ukraine to hit Ukrainian military sites and asserted that Moscow is boosting its supply of weaponry to pro-Russian separatists.


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: gmx95 on July 24, 2014, 11:45:14 PM
This is probably just another of those fakes, not supported by any evidence.


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: Balthazar on July 24, 2014, 11:48:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQRvINebeok

Psaki was funny at least.


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: Paya on July 25, 2014, 12:48:20 AM
Someone in CIA must have been busy today searching for new evidences on Youtube. Or Facebook.


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: imBLACKjack on July 25, 2014, 01:02:34 AM
The Obama administration on Thursday accused Russia of firing artillery from its territory into Ukraine to hit Ukrainian military sites and asserted that Moscow is boosting its supply of weaponry to pro-Russian separatists.
It is no secret that Russia is at war with the Ukraine. It is just that they are not pulling out all the stops like they would in most wars.


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: robhimself on July 25, 2014, 01:28:18 AM
The Obama administration on Thursday accused Russia of firing artillery from its territory into Ukraine to hit Ukrainian military sites and asserted that Moscow is boosting its supply of weaponry to pro-Russian separatists.
It is no secret that Russia is at war with the Ukraine. It is just that they are not pulling out all the stops like they would in most wars.

It's interesting how hard they are pretending to not be at war with Ukraine though.


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 25, 2014, 07:30:34 AM
Where was Obama's response when one Russian border guard was killed a few days ago as a result of Ukrainian army artillery bombardment? That attack happened deep inside the Russian territory.


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: E-valuta on July 25, 2014, 07:35:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQRvINebeok

Psaki was funny at least.


Their press-Conferences are a real laugh for sure.


 I was a bit surprised though.. that he(forgot name) is from Associated press. I thought AP was pro-western and that this guy was from RT. Oh well


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: Nemo1024 on July 25, 2014, 07:42:16 AM
Where was Obama's response when one Russian border guard was killed a few days ago as a result of Ukrainian army artillery bombardment? That attack happened deep inside the Russian territory.

Or when a man was killed in his own backyard by an artillery shelling fired from Ukraine against a border village in Rostov oblast?!

Also, here is the Associated Press grilling, as reported by RT. Associated Press, along with the Guardian, are probably the last Western news agencies that I still have some respect for. They do their jobs by asking questions and reporting, and not by composing fictional stories in the offices....

State Dept. accuses Russia of firing artillery into Ukraine, refuses to provide any evidence
http://rt.com/usa/175388-state-department-briefing/


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: Alex077 on July 25, 2014, 08:35:18 AM
The Obama administration on Thursday accused Russia of firing artillery from its territory into Ukraine to hit Ukrainian military sites and asserted that Moscow is boosting its supply of weaponry to pro-Russian separatists.


U.S. Says Russian Artillery Firing Across Border Into Ukraine
Washington Raises Pressure on Moscow, More Closely Examines Russian Activities in Ukraine

http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-says-russia-firing-across-border-into-ukraine-1406231618?KEYWORDS=Russia


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: Alex077 on July 25, 2014, 08:40:23 AM
Where was Obama's response when one Russian border guard was killed a few days ago as a result of Ukrainian army artillery bombardment? That attack happened deep inside the Russian territory.

Or when a man was killed in his own backyard by an artillery shelling fired from Ukraine against a border village in Rostov oblast?!

Also, here is the Associated Press grilling, as reported by RT. Associated Press, along with the Guardian, are probably the last Western news agencies that I still have some respect for. They do their jobs by asking questions and reporting, and not by composing fictional stories in the offices....

State Dept. accuses Russia of firing artillery into Ukraine, refuses to provide any evidence
http://rt.com/usa/175388-state-department-briefing/

Russia Tooday RT, IT is a YELLOW PRESS, MEGAPHONE of KREMLIN PROPAGAND, ---  news with PT    are not reliable...


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: Balthazar on July 25, 2014, 09:41:26 AM
Maybe. But even if it will be correct it won't change a fact of refusal to give any evidence. C'mon, turn your brain on, otherwise you have no chance here. What would you prefer, reading these continuos senseless "IT'S ALL A KREMLIN'S PROPAGANDA I WON'T READ ANYTHING THERE YOU IDIOTS STOP GIVING ME THESE LINKS OLOLO" bullshit statements or participation in some reasonable discussion instead?  :)


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: Lethn on July 25, 2014, 09:45:50 AM
This is probably just another of those fakes, not supported by any evidence.

It's like watching Iraq all over again, except this time I'm old enough to figure out what's going on and it might cause World War 3.


Title: Re: U.S.: Russia firing artillery at Ukraine military
Post by: KonstantinosM on July 25, 2014, 04:32:30 PM
Truly democratic countries never go on war as war is not profitable for the citizens of any nation.

War is profitable to Wall Street but soldiers get payed measly wages.

It's not profitable for the wifes, husbands and mothers' of the deceased.

The true cost of war is paid by the taxpayer, who toils years and years to pay it.


How can a democratic nation go to war when the benefits always go to a few scheming assholes?