Title: PROOF 40%+ BITCOIN NETWORK IN USA Post by: adoni on July 27, 2014, 01:39:30 AM Another loser that thinks he understands btc was trying to tell me 2M IP's at blockchain is the nodes
haha MORON https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/ 7K+ nodes 40%+ in USA there you got LOSER I win YOU LOSE LOSER Title: Re: PROOF 40%+ BITCOIN NETWORK IN USA Post by: ForgottenPassword on July 27, 2014, 02:14:12 AM I think what franky1 was saying is that these sites can't monitor the entire bitcoin network, they can only monitor a very small amount of listening nodes so you're not getting the full picture. Additionally these sites can't easily monitor nodes that don't listen (unless those nodes happen to connect to them) which is about 95% of them.
I'd say 40% is about accurate. This is mostly due to the low cost of VPS/Dedi servers in the US compared to the rest of the world. I have 6 nodes in the US for this reason. About the 2 million IP's, keep in mind that figure includes recycled IP's, if you're on a dynamic IP it'll keep changing and you'll keep adding onto that. It's not easy to tell exactly how many unique nodes there are. One node could have many IP's or it's IP could regularly change. Title: Re: PROOF 40%+ BITCOIN NETWORK IN USA Post by: adoni on July 27, 2014, 02:42:25 AM can you show a site with more nodes than that
blockchain have only 400 or so nodes on their network that report is the most I've seen the thing about numbers is one you get pass 100, the next 100 is close to the first 100 and the next is closer and the next is closer that's how numbers work so when you have 100 to sample and it says something X % that number is usually close to accurate for the next 10 sets of 100 so 1000 ratio is very close to 100 ratio that's how numbers work almost 8K nodes and they show 40%+ usa yet franky was no way that's WRONG now you're saying yeah it's right but you think 8K nodies is off personally it sounds right to me, 8K full core servers doing mining most people don't mine most people aren't that deeply involved with btc other than they have a wallet at blockchain and have a few bucks in it 8K is the core user base IMO and that's the group getting the mining done now if you have a site with way more nodes show it I doubt it exists I've been asking a while and that's the best site so far but I appreciate your input thanks Title: Re: PROOF 40%+ BITCOIN NETWORK IN USA Post by: ForgottenPassword on July 27, 2014, 02:48:45 AM can you show a site with more nodes than that blockchain have only 400 or so nodes on their network Thats only the nodes that Blockchain's node is connected to right now, and its limited to max 500 at a time. They can only monitor 500 at a time which is why like I said it's difficult to monitor every node, even for someone as big as blockchain. that's how numbers work I tried to read your explanation but I got a headache, your writing style isn't the easiest to digest... almost 8K nodes and they show 40%+ usa yet franky was no way that's WRONG now you're saying yeah it's right but you think 8K nodies is off personally it sounds right to me, 8K full core servers doing mining Not all nodes are miners. None of my 6 nodes mine. Many websites and services need to run full nodes too. Nodes are run by merchants and pools, things like that, not miners or people by in large. 8K is the core user base IMO and that's the group getting the mining done There is definitely more than 8,000 I can promise you that... now if you have a site with way more nodes show it It's not easy or cheap to get the IP of every node. Back in 2011 when there was very little Bitcoin users there was a site that listed 10,000 nodes, I forget where it is or if it still exists. But even if you look at the amount of downloads for bitcoin-core or the bootstrap.dat torrent on a daily basis, you can see there must be way more than 8,000 nodes out there. I would love to try and count all the nodes using ZMap, maybe one day when I have time and spare money for a powerful enough server I'll do it. Even then though I would only be able to count those listening. Title: Re: PROOF 40%+ BITCOIN NETWORK IN USA Post by: banque on July 27, 2014, 03:19:58 AM dude a robot can download crap
the site I listed shows 8K live nodes no one has more if they know of a site showing more nodes PLEASE POST until then I believe what I see downloads are bs, most downloads are FAKE, you do know that 95% of the net is now bogus traffic right china is banging US servers, trying to stop ecommerce all these people look at their logs and see thousands of visits, and yet if they had 30 real eyeballs they're luck haha the net is a mess, complete joke, 95% bogus traffic, bandwidth drains all over, more viruses than you can count, and yeah now you got a new currency of nothing wallets swimming in the cess pool of the 'net' yeah you do biz on it, but unless you really can read a LOG, 95% of the net is bs sorry to bust bubbles but I got way back to 1995 on the modern net, and it was a joke then, and now it's worse very few people can use it to MAKE MONEY and BIG MONEY 99% of the people claiming to make money on the net are BS the best biz model for real on the net is fractions of domains, the reason is simple, if you can OWN a major keyword like a professional term and then fraction it to end users in 100 to 1000 cities via geo sub domains, then you have 3K a month on average for rent per subdomain times 10 or 100 or 1000 users THAT'S THE ONLY PROVEN METHOD I'VE SEEN I don't want to be amazon all that traffic and they still can't make money Amazon is a joke Now google, they make money Bing and yahoo jokes so GOOGLE has search ppc down other than that, none of the companies MAKE MONEY imo amazon loser bing loser yahoo loser a bunch of VC wallets pushed the crap that can't make money on IPOS that now institutions hold and all scratch their heads when are these companies gonna make money MS made dough in 80's and 90's now Google and Apple are it Itunes That's the big dough in tech the rest is smoke and mirrors IPO chasers now fractions of domains, you don't need much traffic, you can manage any city for a client, but 10 clicks a day for 20 to 200 a click and as long as you know IM you produce LEADS you get paid earn 3K or more a CITY do the math 3K average client times 10 or 100 or 1000 city sub domains DOMAIN FRACTION is where you make dough now sure google has search locked up itunes for now has music locked up oh you have a traffic site, really and who buys your bs ads adsense? haha chump change DOMAIN FRACTIONS is the game btc is interesting since it's FRACTIONS too so fractions of wealth is how you maximize an asset value fraction those bitcoins baby fraction those high cpc value keywords for professionals FRACTIONS RULE Title: Re: PROOF 40%+ BITCOIN NETWORK IN USA Post by: banque on July 27, 2014, 03:26:20 AM now wait, you have 6 servers with core on them and you don't mind?
what are you doing chasing transactions? makes zero sense to claim to have servers loaded with core and do no mining what you gonna use a full blown core for go bang your merchant biz through coinbase and swipe to electrum or something you don't need a full core on a server to do merchant trans for yourself last I heard no money in doing transactions yet either now 99% of those core downloads are by MORONS the 99% of the world that is what you call sheeple those easily led MORONS they can't unzip a file let alone untar one they can't ftp to a server and do chmod or initialize a script so again downloads mean nothing one site says they have 400 nodes I questioned it and a geek said no one with a brain uses blockchain, agree, it's morons with online wallets so dude says here's the backbone 8K nodes now you are saying oh it's bigger look at downloads you want 5Million youtube downloads or 50K twitter followers or 5K facebook looks ROBOTS ARE THE NET it's all fake 95% of it 95% of fb is fake 95% of twitter is fake WORTHLESS COMPANIES WILL NEVER MAKE BIG MONEY NEITHER OF THEM no legit biz model traffic means squat you need a business to buy your power FB and Twitter are never ever gonna make big money all bs value through IPS by thieves called wall street bankers and lawyers Title: Re: PROOF 40%+ BITCOIN NETWORK IN USA Post by: ForgottenPassword on July 27, 2014, 03:40:35 AM now wait, you have 6 servers with core on them and you don't mind? what are you doing chasing transactions? makes zero sense to claim to have servers loaded with core and do no mining what you gonna use a full blown core for go bang your merchant biz through coinbase and swipe to electrum or something you don't need a full core on a server to do merchant trans for yourself I don't know why I'm still replying to this but Electrum doesn't have a good API (does it have one?) it can't keep track of each users balance like bitcoin-core can and Electrum servers can do bad things like pretend transactions didn't happen, while bitcoin-core is completely trustless. And I also connect direct to the pools and relay transactions direct to them so that I am sure my customers payments will confirm in case they didn't broadcast correctly (happens a lot to people with crap internet). On top of that the Electrum code isn't as well studied as bitcoin-core and could have really bad bugs, I ain't taking that risk, look what happened to mt gox! (well, what they say happened). Use coinbase? LOL Why would I pay them commision? why should I trust them when I don't need to? They will probably pull a massive scam someday say they were hacked like every other service that "holds" your bitcoins for you. I also use some of the nodes for cool experiments, like trying to de-anonymize scammers (psst). Title: Re: PROOF 40%+ BITCOIN NETWORK IN USA Post by: banque on July 27, 2014, 03:50:59 AM I said use CB for their merchant processing and then SWEEP into electrum for your vault wallets
first 1M in btc is FREE in trans at CB so you doing over 1M in btc? really you that big Overstock says btc blows its under 1% of 1.5B so overstock does maybe 10M or so btc average merchant will never get near 1M btc trans if they do they do 100M or more legit cc's that's public company ranges so you a public company needing 6 servers running core? are they legit servers or virtual servers so far I see numbers and nothing backing it up I gave the OP that node site to show 8K before that 500 at blockchain was the biggest now you're saying you need core on 6 servers to process clients payments? as I said up to 1M CB is a fine solution then you SWIPE THE DOUGH to electrum now if you doing over 1M in BTC transactions that's 100M of a legit biz unless you do what gambling you running satoshidice haha I don't see any legit hosting situation needing 6 core servers brother if you do, ok, but it's high volume gambling or you run a mega network of merchants doing over 100M and I'd bet against the later gambling yawn, yeah they do lots of trans in btc nobody else does drugs did silk rd now it's satoshidice no one else doing big btc trans numbers it's why trans are FLAT for over a year now it's a hoarders commodity more than a currency read the CRS report, that's about all I agree with in the report people HOARD btc but the velocity of the currency is it is doing tenfold increases FAST Title: Re: PROOF 40%+ BITCOIN NETWORK IN USA Post by: Ibitcoinloan on July 27, 2014, 04:08:20 AM U got a noc fp
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