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Title: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: UGETHIT on July 27, 2014, 04:35:25 AM This coin has a 1.5 year PoW. He is premining 5%. That is a huge scam and no exchanges of value will list a coin like that. No good pools will pick it up either. So this is a warning not to waste your hash on this turd. The guy also has deleted 15ish posts on his thread to hide the truth. So please protect yourselves against scams like this.
Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: KeyserSozeMC on July 27, 2014, 04:43:39 AM Quote This is a scam. http://prntscr.com/46qjnq http://prntscr.com/46qi96 https://twitter.com/ThisWeeksCoin/status/493248258626830336 If I'm wrong, why would you delete my posts? Your English doesn't match the English level of the user who owned that account 2 months ago. Either you stole the account or bought it. You're trying to pull a scam with that premine. User is trying to pull a scam with 5% premine which would be mined in 1.5 year. Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: alani123 on July 27, 2014, 04:50:40 AM I thaught the coin wasn't released yet. I think we should not try to destroy it's reputation even before we see if the technology he claims it has really exists.
Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: armin22 on July 27, 2014, 04:52:54 AM Not saying it is/isn't a scam, but damn guys, where's the basis in your argument? TWC made a twitter post, and you base all of this on that?)
Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: UGETHIT on July 27, 2014, 04:57:06 AM The guy was deleting posts left and right so I made a thread for people to discuss it without it being modded. He is done deleting posts now so you can read about it there this thread is no longer needed.
Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: KeyserSozeMC on July 27, 2014, 04:57:20 AM I asked few questions, for example:
"Where were you for near 2 months?" ( Check his posting history. 2 months 0 activity. ) - Got deleted. "Why are you deleting my posts? Got something to hide?" - Got deleted, again. No idea why. "Why 5% premine?" Deleted. So, doesn't that seem a bit fishy? I thaught the coin wasn't released yet. I think we should not try to destroy it's reputation even before we see if the technology he claims it has really exists. The point is that he's not talking with technical terms. I'm not even sure if he knows what's block hash. Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: alani123 on July 27, 2014, 05:06:07 AM I thaught the coin wasn't released yet. I think we should not try to destroy it's reputation even before we see if the technology he claims it has really exists. The point is that he's not talking with technical terms. I'm not even sure if he knows what's block hash. Sure there's uncertainty around. It's just a pre announcement post, let's give it some time, who knows. While it's still not released no harm can be done. Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: KeyserSozeMC on July 27, 2014, 05:10:38 AM I thaught the coin wasn't released yet. I think we should not try to destroy it's reputation even before we see if the technology he claims it has really exists. The point is that he's not talking with technical terms. I'm not even sure if he knows what's block hash. Sure there's uncertainty around. It's just a pre announcement post, let's give it some time, who knows. While it's still not released no harm can be done. He gave a zip from megaupload. He's holding 5% of the premine. The only thing he's waiting for is an exchange add his coin. Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: bigc1984 on July 27, 2014, 05:11:54 AM This coin has a 1.5 year PoW. He is premining 5%. That is a huge scam and no exchanges of value will list a coin like that. No good pools will pick it up either. So this is a warning not to waste your hash on this turd. The guy also has deleted 15ish posts on his thread to hide the truth. So please protect yourselves against scams like this. it's not a scam just because you don't agree with the specs you dumb faggot. You are the scammer.. scamming people out of valuable time by tricking them into reading this trash. Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: UGETHIT on July 27, 2014, 05:12:02 AM The guy holds 1,100,000 of a coin with a block reward of 80 that is 13750 blocks that is a scam.
Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: KeyserSozeMC on July 27, 2014, 05:13:33 AM This coin has a 1.5 year PoW. He is premining 5%. That is a huge scam and no exchanges of value will list a coin like that. No good pools will pick it up either. So this is a warning not to waste your hash on this turd. The guy also has deleted 15ish posts on his thread to hide the truth. So please protect yourselves against scams like this. it's not a scam just because you don't agree with the specs you dumb faggot. You are the scammer.. scamming people out of valuable time by tricking them into reading this trash. Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: bigc1984 on July 27, 2014, 05:17:29 AM This coin has a 1.5 year PoW. He is premining 5%. That is a huge scam and no exchanges of value will list a coin like that. No good pools will pick it up either. So this is a warning not to waste your hash on this turd. The guy also has deleted 15ish posts on his thread to hide the truth. So please protect yourselves against scams like this. it's not a scam just because you don't agree with the specs you dumb faggot. You are the scammer.. scamming people out of valuable time by tricking them into reading this trash. who gives a shit? Maybe he just doesn't want to talk to faggots? Is it a crime if one doesn't want to participate in a conversation? Like I said - You are the ones scamming by lying about scams and tricking people into reading this false alarm b.s. If you have proof then post it, otherwise quit being little bitches. Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: adoalli on July 27, 2014, 06:00:14 AM let die
Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: Redtschorn on July 27, 2014, 06:39:59 AM Deleted post aside, the Achillescoin pitch reads like a scam. Add to that the deletions and what do you have?
Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: gjhiggins on July 27, 2014, 01:54:46 PM He gave a zip from megaupload. He's holding 5% of the premine. The only thing he's waiting for is an exchange add his coin. I'll confine my observations to the code ... The zip archive contains a .git folder, including .git/config: Code: [core] I checked and it is a fork of GodCoin, with a larger premine. Here's the results (excl. binaries and locale files) of diff -uNr godcoin/src achilles/src: http://pastebin.com/uHPmmJsY and the key part: Code: int64 static GetBlockValue(int nBits, int nHeight, int64 nFees) HTH Cheers, Graham (The “zencoin” references are from my brand-normalisation facility which replaces a coin's branding with Zencoin (ZENZ) throughout, allowing comparisons (between now-Zencoins) to reveal just the functional differences.) Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: alani123 on July 28, 2014, 03:11:05 AM gjhiggins, can you tell by the code in the zip if the technology he claims the coin will use actually exists?
Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: gjhiggins on July 28, 2014, 12:33:00 PM gjhiggins, can you tell by the code in the zip if the technology he claims the coin will use actually exists? There's no evidence of that in the contents of the zip archive. The contents are Godcoin with user-facing strings changed to read “Achilles”, with only the absolutely key parameters changed (rpcport, genesisblock, etc). The only significant functional changes to the codebase are a bigger premine and larger block rewards. The pastebin listing that I posted contains all the differences between ZenGodcoin source code and ZenAchilles source code. I found it notable how few differences are actually required to separate one functioning altcoin from another. If you'd like to take a gander yourself, if only to see what I'm blithering on about, there is a technique which helps. When I put an altcoin under the microscope the first thing I do is use a little Python script I wrote to rebrand the coin as Zencoin (ZENZ). I did this with Godcoin and Achilles, giving me ZenGodcoin and ZenAchilles. I then compare the two directories and their contents, side-by-side, using a visual diff and merge tool: http://meldmerge.org/. It gives a very clear and accessible visual presentation of differences in directory structure and between files. What the hey, lets have some piccies ... http://meldmerge.org/images/meld-dircomp-front.png http://meldmerge.org/images/meld-mary.png Here's a screenshot of ZencoinGodcoin vs ZencoinAchilles: https://i.imgur.com/BemTFaA.png Meld allows me to double-click the blue-lit names to show the content side-by-side. In a moment, we'll have a look at the differences in base58.h but first I need to draw your attention to the left-and-right vertical navigation scrollers - the coloured blocks show the location of pairs of files that differ. In the directory-level presentation, one coloured block = one filepair. In the above listing, a total of eight (8!) changed files is sufficient to create a functionally distinct altcoin. There's a similar vertical nav scroller for the file-level presentation and again, coloured bars (a single line differing in content) or coloured blocks (several contiguous lines of code differing). Not too challenging I hope but an illustration should be, er, well, illuminating ... Here's a screenshot of the one-and-only difference between godcoin/src/base58.h and achilles/src/base58.h: https://i.imgur.com/RZtll3F.png That's it. That's the difference which shows up as a blue block in the directory-level display. Pretty much the same goes for all but a few of the rest of the blue-lit files, e.g. here's a screenshot of the (again, one-and-only) difference between godcoin/src/net.cpp and achilles/src/net.cpp: https://i.imgur.com/IVRpyNz.png I re-ran diff configured to output just the minimum context (filename and line no) for clarity - these are the only differences: http://pastebin.com/dWht3JRu And (for eyewatering completeness) files matching the patterns below were excluded from the comparison: Code: $ cat notthese In essence, my workflow runs as follows: Code: $ git clone http://github.com/foo/bazcoin.git If you feel up to it, you can have a go yourself. We've set up a bitbucket repository that you can use: https://bitbucket.org/minkizmates/zencoin.git There's a small collection of zenified coins (incl godcoin and achilles) for use when comparing with fresh candidates along with the “omm.exe” Python script to create Zencoins: https://bitbucket.org/minkizmates/zencoin/src meld will usefully show 3 sources side-by-side, viewing recently-launched elitecoin, fusecoin and sumcoin side-by-side is quite instructive in showing how little they differ. HTH Cheers Graham Edited for sense Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: mana6 on July 28, 2014, 12:45:55 PM thank u,we know!
Title: Re: BitcoinSniper is a scammer. Achilles coin is his scam. Post by: easteagle13 on July 29, 2014, 06:15:34 AM gjhiggins, can you tell by the code in the zip if the technology he claims the coin will use actually exists? There's no evidence of that in the contents of the zip archive. The contents are Godcoin with user-facing strings changed to read “Achilles”, with only the absolutely key parameters changed (rpcport, genesisblock, etc). The only significant functional changes to the codebase are a bigger premine and larger block rewards. The pastebin listing that I posted contains all the differences between ZenGodcoin source code and ZenAchilles source code. I found it notable how few differences are actually required to separate one functioning altcoin from another. If you'd like to take a gander yourself, if only to see what I'm blithering on about, there is a technique which helps. When I put an altcoin under the microscope the first thing I do is use a little Python script I wrote to rebrand the coin as Zencoin (ZENZ). I did this with Godcoin and Achilles, giving me ZenGodcoin and ZenAchilles. I then compare the two directories and their contents, side-by-side, using a visual diff and merge tool: http://meldmerge.org/. It gives a very clear and accessible visual presentation of differences in directory structure and between files. What the hey, lets have some piccies ... http://meldmerge.org/images/meld-dircomp-front.png http://meldmerge.org/images/meld-mary.png Here's a screenshot of ZencoinGodcoin vs ZencoinAchilles: https://i.imgur.com/BemTFaA.png Meld allows me to double-click the blue-lit names to show the content side-by-side. In a moment, we'll have a look at the differences in base58.h but first I need to draw your attention to the left-and-right vertical navigation scrollers - the coloured blocks show the location of pairs of files that differ. In the directory-level presentation, one coloured block = one filepair. In the above listing, a total of eight (8!) changed files is sufficient to create a functionally distinct altcoin. There's a similar vertical nav scroller for the file-level presentation and again, coloured bars (a single line differing in content) or coloured blocks (several contiguous lines of code differing). Not too challenging I hope but an illustration should be, er, well, illuminating ... Here's a screenshot of the one-and-only difference between godcoin/src/base58.h and achilles/src/base58.h: https://i.imgur.com/RZtll3F.png That's it. That's the difference which shows up as a blue block in the directory-level display. Pretty much the same goes for all but a few of the rest of the blue-lit files, e.g. here's a screenshot of the (again, one-and-only) difference between godcoin/src/net.cpp and achilles/src/net.cpp: https://i.imgur.com/IVRpyNz.png I re-ran diff configured to output just the minimum context (filename and line no) for clarity - these are the only differences: http://pastebin.com/dWht3JRu And (for eyewatering completeness) files matching the patterns below were excluded from the comparison: Code: $ cat notthese In essence, my workflow runs as follows: Code: $ git clone http://github.com/foo/bazcoin.git If you feel up to it, you can have a go yourself. We've set up a bitbucket repository that you can use: https://bitbucket.org/minkizmates/zencoin.git There's a small collection of zenified coins (incl godcoin and achilles) for use when comparing with fresh candidates along with the “omm.exe” Python script to create Zencoins: https://bitbucket.org/minkizmates/zencoin/src meld will usefully show 3 sources side-by-side, viewing recently-launched elitecoin, fusecoin and sumcoin side-by-side is quite instructive in showing how little they differ. HTH Cheers Graham Edited for sense Hi, your method seems good in checking possible problems with the code compared to "clean" code. Would you be interested to check KARMA? Just for curiosity sake. I will be willing to send you 2 million karma if you can do it and publish your finding in a separate thread by tomorrow JULY 30, 2014. Just message me if you're willing to do this. Here is the github link: https://github.com/karmateam/karma/tree/master-0.8/src |
