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Title: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: indiguy on July 27, 2014, 05:15:21 AM

I do have speeadsheet I got with list of people and their details including their credit cards and I want to sell it. I got them from our office last year when we didn't yet close the company.

Some forums don't allow such. how about bitcointalk?


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on July 27, 2014, 05:18:30 AM
No.

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1. Trading of goods that are illegal in the seller's or buyer's country is forbidden.

That'd be illegal in the US at least.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: leahsandes on July 27, 2014, 05:37:03 AM
What is quite remarkable is that actually possessing or selling the database may not be illegal, there have been some interesting cases. Only "obtaining it" and "using it" are.

If they can't prove you stole them and can't prove you used them you may be in the clear.

This depends on your country though.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: madken7777 on July 27, 2014, 05:37:10 AM
It is a criminal offense to sell credit card numbers.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: loewen.brad on July 27, 2014, 12:37:33 PM
It is a criminal offense to sell credit card numbers.

that. so much that.

if you really wanna do it though, try taking it to the derpweb. torchan is probably your best bet. somebody on there will probably want to buy. just be careful with it, whatever you do. law enforcement is everywhere.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: tinof on July 27, 2014, 07:13:11 PM
The credit card company will figure out the pattern and deduce where the leak come from.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: joshraban76 on July 28, 2014, 09:48:43 AM
Laws in the US prevent you from doing this and there would be no way around it. With anything like this obtaining and selling a database of people's credit card details I would has it a guess is strongly frowned up on in many places as it can lead to fraud. I can not see it going well for you either if they where able to link back to you some how that you sold the details to whoever bought the database.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: TrailingComet on July 28, 2014, 03:58:46 PM
That's illegal in most jurisdictions, unethical in all jurisdictions
So absolutely not, I would have thought...


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: nwfella on July 28, 2014, 06:50:01 PM
Do this:

"erase CC_spreadsheet.xls"


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: Karasugoi on July 29, 2014, 04:26:47 AM

I do have speeadsheet I got with list of people and their details including their credit cards and I want to sell it. I got them from our office last year when we didn't yet close the company.

Some forums don't allow such. how about bitcointalk?

Must be really hard up for cash...

Some questions for you, dear indiguy:

Do you enjoy when people steal from you?  
Do you like thieves in general?
Do you think you should enable these leaches?

Do you want people in the forum to think indiguy is a lowlife that sells peoples' info to thieves for a few mBTC?


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: bcmine on August 02, 2014, 11:31:18 PM

I do have speeadsheet I got with list of people and their details including their credit cards and I want to sell it. I got them from our office last year when we didn't yet close the company.

Some forums don't allow such. how about bitcointalk?

give yourself a try. why not? want to change it for naked pictures of your wive maybe? pm me!


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: Xer0 on August 04, 2014, 11:42:44 PM
Do this:

"erase CC_spreadsheet.xls"
that would just mark the file deleted
go "sdelete.exe" or "shred" on *nix !


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: AcoinL.L.C on August 05, 2014, 01:18:09 AM
Your an asshole for keeping that, how would you like it if someone kept a spreadsheet with your information and credit cards on it? Its a crime in every jurisdiction as far as Im aware (as its theft).

Neg trust


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: Munz77 on August 05, 2014, 02:31:35 AM
Just remember that if you are a law enforcement officer and you are doing a set up, that its illegal in some countries.

Better luck next time.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: oceans on August 05, 2014, 11:29:40 AM
I find it unbelievable that anyone would want to obtain this kind of information let alone want to pass it on to others for their own benefit and to cash in. This is illegal in most Countries and is strongly frowned up on. I definitely wouldn't even advise you selling these kind of details on.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: michaelwang33 on August 05, 2014, 10:41:43 PM
It is a criminal offense to sell credit card numbers.
I don't think the OP is trying to sell the credit card numbers, but rather the identities of the people who have credit cards.

Although not as illegal I still think doing this would be against the law and not allowed on these forums.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: Window2Wall on August 05, 2014, 11:36:04 PM
Just remember that if you are a law enforcement officer and you are doing a set up, that its illegal in some countries.

Better luck next time.
LOL I would doubt that the OP is law enforcement. I don't think there is that large of a market for this type of illegal information on this forum for law enforcement to setup (or try to setup) a sting operation.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: Razick on August 06, 2014, 12:54:09 AM
I'm not going to answer that. Instead I have a question: How do you sleep at night? Are you really so desperate?


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: Razick on August 06, 2014, 12:59:38 AM
It is a criminal offense to sell credit card numbers.

that. so much that.

if you really wanna do it though, try taking it to the derpweb. torchan is probably your best bet. somebody on there will probably want to buy. just be careful with it, whatever you do. law enforcement is everywhere.

What would you help someone defraud others? Seriously, I don't care about it being illegal as much as I care about it being plain wrong.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: BadBear on August 06, 2014, 06:12:38 AM
No.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: haploid23 on August 06, 2014, 08:31:35 AM
I do have speeadsheet I got with list of people and their details including their credit cards and I want to sell it.

I hope you eventually become a victim of identity theft, and the scumbags like yourself take out credit cards/loans in your name, put you in a deep financial hole, then resell your info to other scumbags.


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: redskins49 on August 07, 2014, 02:39:51 AM
I do have speeadsheet I got with list of people and their details including their credit cards and I want to sell it.

I hope you eventually become a victim of identity theft, and the scumbags like yourself take out credit cards/loans in your name, put you in a deep financial hole, then resell your info to other scumbags.
The OP could just use one of the identities that he has on his list.

But seriously it is very unethical to sell this kind of information (you can ignore the legal consequences). You are forcing people to go through hell for months trying to clear their identity of all the fraud you have caused. 


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: poisenrang on August 08, 2014, 03:40:58 PM
selling credit card numbers,,, yeah... right.... :-\


Title: Re: is selling database of people with credit cards allowed here in bitcointalk?
Post by: Possum577 on August 08, 2014, 05:36:56 PM
Illegality, while important is not the paramount consequence. If you're on this forum trying to commit fraud or promoting screwing over others then we, as a community, should ostracize you. We should follow you and harass you for as long as you continue to try to fraud others. If you stop, we will stop, but we won't allow you to conduct your crimes in our community!