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Title: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: Alex077 on July 27, 2014, 04:05:38 PM
The first picture shows the effects of effort on Ukrainian territory with multiple rocket launchers, second and third - the results of the self-propelled artillery shelling by Ukrainian military unit. The fourth shot rocket system fired at targets from the territory of Ukraine at the border - according to the U.S. in this case was about the use of facilities provided by the separatists from Russia.

https://twitter.com/GeoffPyatt/status/493411896222302208/photo/1
Ukrainian military have long claimed that their position near the Russian border often fired or the direction of the border, or even from Russia. These statements are confirmed in social networks and the Russians themselves, residents of border villages and soldiers who boasted of his attacks. Western intelligence sources also said that Ukraine should confirm attacks on Russian territory. Russia rejects all evidence of this and calls them false......)))))

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtjzgSoIYAASkG7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Btjz4SzIUAAFjop.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtjzrXtIEAAPHMl.jpg


Title: Re: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: Balthazar on July 27, 2014, 04:53:56 PM
The first picture shows the effects of effort on Ukrainian territory with multiple rocket launchers, second and third - the results of the self-propelled artillery shelling by Ukrainian military unit. The fourth shot rocket system fired at targets from the territory of Ukraine at the border - according to the U.S. in this case was about the use of facilities provided by the separatists from Russia.

https://twitter.com/GeoffPyatt/status/493411896222302208/photo/1
Ukrainian military have long claimed that their position near the Russian border often fired or the direction of the border, or even from Russia. These statements are confirmed in social networks and the Russians themselves, residents of border villages and soldiers who boasted of his attacks. Western intelligence sources also said that Ukraine should confirm attacks on Russian territory. Russia rejects all evidence of this and calls them false......)))))

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtjzgSoIYAASkG7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Btjz4SzIUAAFjop.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtjzrXtIEAAPHMl.jpg

There is also another evidence

http://s020.radikal.ru/i703/1407/72/ec9004f98c10.png


Title: Re: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: kuroman on July 27, 2014, 11:31:55 PM
The first picture shows the effects of effort on Ukrainian territory with multiple rocket launchers, second and third - the results of the self-propelled artillery shelling by Ukrainian military unit. The fourth shot rocket system fired at targets from the territory of Ukraine at the border - according to the U.S. in this case was about the use of facilities provided by the separatists from Russia.

https://twitter.com/GeoffPyatt/status/493411896222302208/photo/1
Ukrainian military have long claimed that their position near the Russian border often fired or the direction of the border, or even from Russia. These statements are confirmed in social networks and the Russians themselves, residents of border villages and soldiers who boasted of his attacks. Western intelligence sources also said that Ukraine should confirm attacks on Russian territory. Russia rejects all evidence of this and calls them false......)))))

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtjzgSoIYAASkG7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Btjz4SzIUAAFjop.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtjzrXtIEAAPHMl.jpg


well yes, some of the picture, shows traces of shells if I did interpret the image correctly, but where is the proof that it was Russia behind it I mean really and what with the poor quality satellite pictures with several days interval, I'm pretty sure that the US has tons of drones with high resolutions picture flying around the area from the Ukraine side, and that's without speaking about the fact that current satelitte can take picture way more accuratly heck even commercial solutions shows better picture, example http://www.digitalglobe.com/


Title: Re: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on July 28, 2014, 12:33:20 AM
The first picture shows the effects of effort on Ukrainian territory with multiple rocket launchers, second and third - the results of the self-propelled artillery shelling by Ukrainian military unit. The fourth shot rocket system fired at targets from the territory of Ukraine at the border - according to the U.S. in this case was about the use of facilities provided by the separatists from Russia.

https://twitter.com/GeoffPyatt/status/493411896222302208/photo/1
Ukrainian military have long claimed that their position near the Russian border often fired or the direction of the border, or even from Russia. These statements are confirmed in social networks and the Russians themselves, residents of border villages and soldiers who boasted of his attacks. Western intelligence sources also said that Ukraine should confirm attacks on Russian territory. Russia rejects all evidence of this and calls them false......)))))

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtjzgSoIYAASkG7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Btjz4SzIUAAFjop.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtjzrXtIEAAPHMl.jpg


well yes, some of the picture, shows traces of shells if I did interpret the image correctly, but where is the proof that it was Russia behind it I mean really and what with the poor quality satellite pictures with several days interval, I'm pretty sure that the US has tons of drones with high resolutions picture flying around the area from the Ukraine side, and that's without speaking about the fact that current satelitte can take picture way more accuratly heck even commercial solutions shows better picture, example http://www.digitalglobe.com/

I've been a bit suspicious of it myself, I mean if the Americans had so many satellites focuses on that area they would have released all the data they had to prove conclusively that it was the Russians that launched those missiles or the russian backed rebels, instead they are releasing some patchy information meaning its either in a gray area or they can't prove it conclusively.

But perhaps its true multiple sources releasing that news
http://news.yahoo.com/us-russia-fired-rockets-ukraine-151819521--politics.html


Title: Re: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: 247crypto on July 28, 2014, 12:41:26 AM
City of Gorlovka under Kiev forces bombs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=516mgKZO3JI

http://www.e-news.su/uploads/posts/2014-07/1406468164_mabmkh6a_68.jpg

http://www.e-news.su/uploads/posts/2014-07/1406468124_ewk8uibmrow.jpg

http://www.e-news.su/uploads/posts/2014-07/1406468134_zlvq4zqu_kq.jpg

http://www.e-news.su/uploads/posts/2014-07/1406468143_we8ucyxvigm.jpg



http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/gwinplane/33556898/487551/487551_original.jpg


Title: Re: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: lihuajkl on July 28, 2014, 12:48:58 AM
The first picture shows the effects of effort on Ukrainian territory with multiple rocket launchers, second and third - the results of the self-propelled artillery shelling by Ukrainian military unit. The fourth shot rocket system fired at targets from the territory of Ukraine at the border - according to the U.S. in this case was about the use of facilities provided by the separatists from Russia.

https://twitter.com/GeoffPyatt/status/493411896222302208/photo/1
Ukrainian military have long claimed that their position near the Russian border often fired or the direction of the border, or even from Russia. These statements are confirmed in social networks and the Russians themselves, residents of border villages and soldiers who boasted of his attacks. Western intelligence sources also said that Ukraine should confirm attacks on Russian territory. Russia rejects all evidence of this and calls them false......)))))

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtjzgSoIYAASkG7.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Btjz4SzIUAAFjop.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BtjzrXtIEAAPHMl.jpg


well yes, some of the picture, shows traces of shells if I did interpret the image correctly, but where is the proof that it was Russia behind it I mean really and what with the poor quality satellite pictures with several days interval, I'm pretty sure that the US has tons of drones with high resolutions picture flying around the area from the Ukraine sTheyide, and that's without speaking about the fact that current satelitte can take picture way more accuratly heck even commercial solutions shows better picture, example http://www.digitalglobe.com/

I've been a bit suspicious of it myself, I mean if the Americans had so many satellites focuses on that area they would have released all the data they had to prove conclusively that it was the Russians that launched those missiles or the russian backed rebels, instead they are releasing some patchy information meaning its either in a gray area or they can't prove it conclusively.

But perhaps its true multiple sources releasing that news
http://news.yahoo.com/us-russia-fired-rockets-ukraine-151819521--politics.html
The America thinks it's none of his business. They are watching what's going on out there! They will do the things which will bring some benefits to them.


Title: Re: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: bitsmichel on July 28, 2014, 12:51:15 AM
City of Gorlovka under Kiev forces bombs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=516mgKZO3JI

http://www.e-news.su/uploads/posts/2014-07/1406468164_mabmkh6a_68.jpg

http://www.e-news.su/uploads/posts/2014-07/1406468124_ewk8uibmrow.jpg

http://www.e-news.su/uploads/posts/2014-07/1406468134_zlvq4zqu_kq.jpg

http://www.e-news.su/uploads/posts/2014-07/1406468143_we8ucyxvigm.jpg



http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/gwinplane/33556898/487551/487551_original.jpg

I'll add that these images are NSFW.  It's insane that a country is fighting against itself, with the help of foreign countries.
The war is taking innocent lives, like this woman, and making the rich richer.


Title: Re: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: Ron~Popeil on July 28, 2014, 03:30:46 AM
The US needs to stay the hell out of regional conflicts and take care of business at home. The fact that CNN and other major media outlets are reporting this kind of stuff as fact is concerning. They did the same thing in the run up to Libya and tried to do it with Syria.


Title: Re: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: Panthers52 on July 28, 2014, 03:38:36 AM
The US needs to stay the hell out of regional conflicts and take care of business at home. The fact that CNN and other major media outlets are reporting this kind of stuff as fact is concerning. They did the same thing in the run up to Libya and tried to do it with Syria.
The US has a vested interest in trying to keep the world a safe place. As the largest economy and the largest military it stands to lose the most when war breaks out.


Title: Re: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: Ron~Popeil on July 28, 2014, 03:40:09 AM
The US needs to stay the hell out of regional conflicts and take care of business at home. The fact that CNN and other major media outlets are reporting this kind of stuff as fact is concerning. They did the same thing in the run up to Libya and tried to do it with Syria.
The US has a vested interest in trying to keep the world a safe place. As the largest economy and the largest military it stands to lose the most when war breaks out.

No we have a vested interest in keeping our homeland a safe place. The largest army in the world should have no trouble securing our borders.


Title: Re: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: needFREElunch on July 28, 2014, 04:07:06 AM
The US needs to stay the hell out of regional conflicts and take care of business at home. The fact that CNN and other major media outlets are reporting this kind of stuff as fact is concerning. They did the same thing in the run up to Libya and tried to do it with Syria.
The US has a vested interest in trying to keep the world a safe place. As the largest economy and the largest military it stands to lose the most when war breaks out.

No we have a vested interest in keeping our homeland a safe place. The largest army in the world should have no trouble securing our borders.
As we have seen in both world wars, a small conflict can easily escalate to involve many countries across several continents


Title: Re: United States publish new evidence shelling Ukraine from Russia
Post by: Leina on July 28, 2014, 04:23:16 AM
The US needs to stay the hell out of regional conflicts and take care of business at home. The fact that CNN and other major media outlets are reporting this kind of stuff as fact is concerning. They did the same thing in the run up to Libya and tried to do it with Syria.
The US has a vested interest in trying to keep the world a safe place. As the largest economy and the largest military it stands to lose the most when war breaks out.

No we have a vested interest in keeping our homeland a safe place. The largest army in the world should have no trouble securing our borders.
As we have seen in both world wars, a small conflict can easily escalate to involve many countries across several continents

Conflict in the middle east and Russia border is by no mean small.