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I am currently selling:

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (sold)
Windows XP Professional 32-bit (Single-User) (sold)
Windows XP Professional 64-bit (Single-User)
Windows XP Tablet Edition (2005)
Windows Vista Business 32-bit
Windows Vista Business 64-bit (sold)
Windows Server 2003 Standard 32-bit
Windows Server 2003 Enterprise 32-bit
Windows Server 2003 Enterprise 64-bit
Windows Server 2003 R2 Standard 32-bit
Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise 32-bit
Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise 64-bit
Windows Server 2008 Enterprise and Standard 32-bit
Windows Server 2008 Enterprise and Standard 64-bit
Windows Server 2008 R2 Enterprise and Standard 64-bit
Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter
Windows Server 2008 R2 Web
Windows web server 2008

Each key is 2BTC.
If you buy 3 at the same time (3 different ones), you only pay 5BTC instead of 6BTC

For each version is only one key available at the moment, sorry for the inconvenience.


If you're interested, send me an email to tehjoker@hotmail.be

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I'm guessing Technet or MSDN or pirated.  To potential buyers be careful because if he is selling technet keys and MS finds out they will disable them and you'll be without a key and probably need to re activate with a different key.

Hmmmm, good point.  I figured they were technet, but didn't really think about the danger of them being deactivated, which could, potentially, happen at any time.

Hello demonofelru, thanks for your concern about if it's a scam or not, but these keys are not technet keys
These keys are all MSDN keys

To make your last point clear, theses keys can only be deactivated when they appear on the blacklist of microsoft keys. Since these keys are from technet or MSDN (which are in this case) they will never appear on the blacklist. Why well these keys are legit and they are not pirated or generated by a keygen (this last thing made keys appear on a blacklist).

It doesn't matter it is in the technet and MSDN TOS that they are not to be sold.  If microsoft finds out they can and WILL blacklist the keys.  believe me I know from personal experience.  They can see the IP addresses of the computers activating with the keys and if they see one activated from an IP in the US 5 minutes later one in brazil if will raise a red flag. I think this is still potentially a great deal because of such a low price but you're wrong there is a serious risk and buyers should know that.

Edit: Also gamekingx you are very wrong legitimate keys are blacklisted quite regularly many of the early pirated versions of windows XP used a legitimate VLK that was leaked from an educational establishment and was blacklisted.

I never said it was a scam the technet/MSDN keys will activate just fine but as I said they can and will be blacklisted by Microsoft if they are found to be sold.

That is why i only sell 1 key to 1 person for each product. If i get more keys, i'll get an other account or source for it.

It doesn't matter unless they are all the same person or every one you sell to lives in downtown LA you run the risk of getting flagged.

If i request a new key, through a new account, i can actually sell them to people all over the world bro

Again I'm not trying to harp on you I actually think this is debatably worth the risk.  But there is a very real risk for your customers, and they deserve to know this, I know because it has happened to me.  I don't know everything MS uses to catch sellers I know they log IPs and I know that's not the only protection they have in place.  I also know they actively pursue abuse of MSDN/technet.  I find it wrong that you are unwilling to admit the risk to your customers.

Keys are only blacklisted if they are keygenned by a keygenerator. Not by selling keys.

Once again you are wrong if you don't know what you're talking about don't state it as fact.

-_- so you dont believe me? i asked it a microsoft worker on their microsoft event back on CeBIT , and he told me that so...

Either you are lying about that or he was misinformed.  Honestly I doubt it is the latter I dont think an MS rep would openly talk about piracy or "keygens" for his companies products.  It could also be that keys are considered pirated once leaked. There are more then a couple VLK's that were leaked and then blacklisted.  Probably the most well know is "the devil's own" windows XP.  
http://wiki.robotz.com/index.php/The_Devil's_Own_Windows_XP_VLK

It's not I don't believe you I just know you are wrong.

Well, I've been a TechNet subscriber for a few years now, and if you go to the TechNet and MSDN forums on Microsoft's own website you'll soon discover lots of reports of people buying keys off Ebay only to soon find that their key(s) have been blacklisted because they were TechNet or MSDN keys.  This thread here (http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/genuinewindows7/thread/a2444f34-0aff-4f29-a8ac-67e28b0c0285) is just one such example with a Microsoft employee confirming that a poster's key has indeed been blocked for this reason.  Sorry, your "microsoft worker" was wrong when "he told [you]...so".

If you need further proof there is a rather famous technet key that was blacklisted the famous V2C47 key once again you are wrong.  Whether you are outright lying or you were misinformed I don't know but either way the customers deserve to know the risk and this is why I am being so determined in proving you are wrong nothing personal.

Edit: mods if I was not allowed to post the first five characters "V2C47" sorry I meant no harm.

But there is still one thing You don't understand: a key only gets blocked when it gets activated a massive amount of times from several locations around the world.
I sell one particular key only once, to one person.
If another buyer asks for one, i'll get an other key from an other MSDN account.

You're wrong there are other ways/reasons they blacklist keys.  

Edit: I bought a technet sub and shared a single key with my friend.  It was later blacklisted and my subscription closed.  Like I said I know from personal experience.  Stop spreading lies and be honest with your potential customers.

yes, but none of those are actually possible if you use the keys like a normal person would.

examples of reasons:
you can obtain the key through a keygen
the key has been used more than 100 times on one location
the key has been used more than 5 times on different locations
the key has been made public
etc etc

Once again you are wrong read my edit.  Also AFAIK there are no keygens for windows that's why most pirated copies use either leaked keys or leaked keys partnered with spoof SLIC tables.  If someone could reliably generate vaild keys there would be no reason for these methods.  Admittedly that's only as far as I know, I do however know the risk is FAR greater then what you are saying.

i was already editing my post as soon as i saw your edit, but u were first to make a reply :p:

i say lol to your personal experience: my friend in the USA offered me to try it. I have installed win7 on my second pc with one of his technet keys yesterday while he was already working with that technet key for about a month or 2, and i still don't see anything about illegal key or blacklisted key or something like that, he didn't say anything about his technet being shut down, and my pc is updating, so i think you just were very unlucky or just lying.

That is why I said I don't know what other methods they have that puts up the red flag.  I have an idea on why it might have red flagged me with only one, but do not know for sure.  From what I have searched the IP address thing seems to be the most commonly accepted reason.  I can't really prove my experience but I have no need to it is commonly known these keys get blacklisted maybe your customers will be lucky maybe not but once again they deserve to know the risk.

You're working under the assumption that because something hasn't happened in your particular case it won't happen in other cases.  Your also assuming that multiple activations of the same key from different locations is the only reason Microsoft blacklists and the only way they know whether to blacklist.  The fact is, we don't know how they know.  Additionally, demonofelru isn't asserting that because a key was blacklisted for him in a particular case it will be blacklisted for you in your case.  Rather, he's claiming that there exists a risk to your customers that the keys they buy could be blacklisted.  That claim strikes me as just obviously true, and I don't see how you can reasonably deny it.

You have to realize that Microsoft doesn't need proof to revoke a license of their software. They could probably revoke ANY license just because you had no shoes on today. lol

Just give in and place a disclaimer saying something like "I take no responsibility if your license key gets revoked"

the reason why i "deny" it, is simply because he's the first and only person i hear of that ever got a windows key blacklisted, and i do know some people who make money by selling one and the same key to a lot of people and never having problems with their key being blacklisted and/or their account being shut down.

Listen I'm not going to argue it anymore I was only going to post the original message telling users be careful, until gamekingx said that MSDN/technet keys won't get black listed then I felt the need to prove him wrong because he was 100% wrong.  proudhon posted a thread of which there are many stating that MS does blacklist MSDN/technet keys I am most definitely not the only one this has happened to.  I have absolutely no reason to lie I have no competing service against you, don't know you outside these forums, and this was the first time I responded to anything in these forums by you or gamekingx;  I even commented earlier that it might be worth the risk.  You do have something to gain by downplaying the possible risk of buying from you which is lost sales.   I wish you luck in this even if I don't agree with you, if people still buy from you it's their own fault I've made it quite clear there's a risk involved.  I won't bother you anymore and sorry it wasn't my intention to affect you, or your sales negatively, just wish you would be more forthcoming.

Look, here are the facts.  Microsoft can blacklist those keys if they want to.  Your act of selling them is a violation of the TOS you agreed to when you became a TechNet/MSDN subscriber.  If they find out about it somehow, and we don't know all the ways that they can (posting about it on a public forum probably doesn't help you), they can blacklist those keys and terminate your TechNet/MSDN subscription.  Why? Again, because that's what you agreed to when you got a Technet/MSDN account.  Because you are violating the TOS between you and Microsoft, and because they can blacklist and terminate your account because of such violation, there exists some risk to your customers.  You simply cannot guarantee that there is no risk.  Maybe it'll never happen.  But, that fact, that it never happens (if it should be a fact), does not entail that there is or was never any risk to your customers.

Maybe things will turn out fine for you, and, as demonofelru said, maybe the risk is worth it to you and your customers, but there still exists a certain measure of risk.

So here is the problem....

Your customer buys a key and tries to use it 6 times.  Now ALL of your keys that you sold to all of these people all die.  You can not control the customer.