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Title: Crime (Israel) and Punishment (Russia)
Post by: Nemo1024 on July 30, 2014, 08:13:03 AM
Crime (Israel) and Punishment (Russia)
http://rt.com/op-edge/176548-crime-israel-punishment-russia/

An Op-Edge by Pepe Escobar.

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So Obama, Merkel, Cameron, Hollande and Renzi – let’s call them the Fab Five - got on a video conference call to muster their courage and “increase pressure” asking for a cease-fire in Gaza. Later in the day, Bibi delivers his answer, in plain language.

He remains dead set on achieving his version of a Final Solution to Gaza. With or without “pressure”.

So what's left for the Fab Five after having their illustrious Western collective behinds solemnly kicked? They decide to dump Gaza and instead SANCTION RUSSIA! AGAIN! How brilliant is that as an exit strategy?

 ::) ::) ;D ::) ::)

2014 is becoming more and more like "1984", at least judging by the number of times, I've seen it referenced this year.

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Spectacular non-entity Tony Blinken, who doubles as deputy national security adviser to Obama, was keen to stress to Western corporate media that the unruly Eurotrash mob is now “determined to act”. No, not against Israel because of Gaza; against Russia because of Ukraine. Such a lovely Orwellian symmetry; the extended Two Minutes Hate from Israel towards Gazans morphs into the extended Two Minutes Hate from the “West” towards Russia, mirroring the extended Two Minutes Hate from Kiev towards Eastern Ukrainians.


Title: Re: Crime (Israel) and Punishment (Russia)
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 30, 2014, 11:03:34 AM
That joker Nick Clegg is calling for the 2018 World Cup to be taken away from Russia. Curiously, he hasn't uttered a word about Israel or Gaza so far. The guy seems to be desperate for publicity.


Title: Re: Crime (Israel) and Punishment (Russia)
Post by: noviapriani on July 30, 2014, 12:22:08 PM
i was somewhat hopeful before this article. the world is more than just nato/europe and china, all the other countries will probably pick sides and join whomever. many countries support Russias just cause.


Title: Re: Crime (Israel) and Punishment (Russia)
Post by: zolace on July 30, 2014, 03:19:08 PM
Just want to make sure I understand the attempt at thought here - Israel is being awful so Russia can be awful too? Or maybe it's more like 'whaaa, whaaaa!' why are we being punished for being awful when this other crummy country is being worse?


Title: Re: Crime (Israel) and Punishment (Russia)
Post by: Nemo1024 on July 30, 2014, 04:10:42 PM
Just want to make sure I understand the attempt at thought here - Israel is being awful so Russia can be awful too? Or maybe it's more like 'whaaa, whaaaa!' why are we being punished for being awful when this other crummy country is being worse?

No, it's more like: Israel is being awful and aggressive, but let's close our eyes on it. Russia calls for peace in Ukraine, and is non-aggressive, so let's pick up on it interpreting non-aggressiveness as a weakness (a grave mistake) and punish Russia for it, hoping to place missile launchers and NATO bases even closer to Russian borders, while hopefully crippling its recovering after Yeltsin economy.


Title: Re: Crime (Israel) and Punishment (Russia)
Post by: Rigon on July 30, 2014, 04:45:34 PM
I think the saddest thing is -- I now give more credence to Putin than America. It makes me want to cry, which I do sometimes.


Title: Re: Crime (Israel) and Punishment (Russia)
Post by: Nemo1024 on July 31, 2014, 07:11:18 AM
I think the saddest thing is -- I now give more credence to Putin than America. It makes me want to cry, which I do sometimes.

From your comment I get a feeling that you have a cognitive dissonance: Either consciously or unconsciously you still set an equality sign between Soviet Union and today's Russia. Credence is something that has to be earned, and Soviet Union was on quite many occasions didn't give grounds to credence. Russia, on the other hand, after having freed itself from the Soviet Union, where it had little to say, and of Yeltsin's sell-out, has been busy building bridges both economical and cultural on the international arena, expecting to be equals with other nations, while being open in what it does and what it expects. In a way politically today's Russia is picking up after where it was forced to leave off before WWI in 1914...