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Title: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: Bitcoin For Dummies on July 31, 2014, 03:23:04 PM
As some of you know we produce educational bitcoin videos. Well our last one was taken down for violating youtube guidelines. Of course no one tells you what exactly you have violated. At first I was sure it's mistake but they just rejected my appeal confirming they see reason for the suspension, without pointing the actual reason  though.
So please help me figure out the reason and also to make some noise around this case, beucase we shouldn't leave thinkgs like that.

Here is mirror of the video at Vimeo:
https://vimeo.com/102230977

and here is the orignal version at youtube, so you can see the suspension notice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XImwmL4eBXk


If you want to help me with this please upvote it at reddit, so we can actually get some attention to the case
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2c8uiz/youtube_is_censoring_bitcoin_educational_video/


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on July 31, 2014, 03:26:04 PM
actually that makes no sense because there are alot of such videos.  ???


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: domainbrokers on July 31, 2014, 03:27:52 PM
they got morons whose job it is to produce x suspended videos a day

like a quota on cops and tickets

they got to justify to shareholders why google and youtube needs 10K employees when they could run the world with 10

so the evil G empire creates jobs like jobs of people to take down stuff

also if you get too many views they don't like they say fake views or spam

so your competitor can hire a spam view bot company to hit your videos and have you taken down

you did know that right

competitors now make spam links to get sites taken out

competitors hire video hit teams to take out videos they don't want

or the gov has you marked

that's the 3 legit reasons I've seen videos taken out

1. worthless employees meeting quotas
2. competitors spamming with links and fake views
3. a legit government strike

oh the fourth is you spammed somehow and got caught



Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: iluvpie60 on July 31, 2014, 03:29:33 PM
As some of you know we produce educational bitcoin videos. Well our last one was taken down for violating youtube guidelines. Of course no one tells you what exactly you have violated. At first I was sure it's mistake but they just rejected my appeal confirming they see reason for the suspension, without pointing the actual reason  though.
So please help me figure out the reason and also to make some noise around this case, beucase we shouldn't leave thinkgs like that.

Here is mirror of the video at Vimeo:
https://vimeo.com/102230977

and here is the orignal version at youtube, so you can see the suspension notice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XImwmL4eBXk


If you want to help me with this please upvote it at reddit, so we can actually get some attention to the case
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2c8uiz/youtube_is_censoring_bitcoin_educational_video/

The only thing I can think of(without watching your video first) is that they do not like your donation address being in it? They don't watch every video obviously, maybe someone actually watched that one and saw you were soliciting donations. Not sure if that is against their TOS, I do it on my channel so I hope that is not it.


Edit: I think I know why actually. Did you copy and paste the link to that specific video on a bunch of forums/posts? If you copy a specific video link they will get you for that. Especially if you don't get many views. The views from someone searching you up vs. the views from a direct link can get you banned. Too much direct views on a single video sets off their alarm for the % of views on it vs. natural views(people clicking your channel, subscribers, search engine results).

Especially if you have ads enabled, direct views to a VIDEO will kill your site man. Just do links to your channel for the most part, if you want to help yourself even more, do a link that brings up Youtube search with your channels named typed in, that way it counts as someone searching for your channel then it counts as a "natural search".


The reason I know first hand about this is because I used megayoutube views one time to get some views on another channel, it gets you the views from tons of different ip address, but the percentage of direct link views was too high and they suspended my ad sense. be very careful!


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: DannyHamilton on July 31, 2014, 03:33:05 PM
Other than the very mild references to porn and cocaine, I don't see anything in there that would result in YouTube pulling it down.

I'm going to have to guess it was those two references, but it surprises me that they'd pull if for something so mild.

There was also some legal advice about whether or not you need to declare it when crossing borders, I don't know if they have a problem with videos prsenting questionable legal advice.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: nkocevar on July 31, 2014, 04:03:10 PM
they got morons whose job it is to produce x suspended videos a day

like a quota on cops and tickets

they got to justify to shareholders why google and youtube needs 10K employees when they could run the world with 10

so the evil G empire creates jobs like jobs of people to take down stuff

also if you get too many views they don't like they say fake views or spam

so your competitor can hire a spam view bot company to hit your videos and have you taken down

you did know that right

competitors now make spam links to get sites taken out

competitors hire video hit teams to take out videos they don't want

or the gov has you marked

that's the 3 legit reasons I've seen videos taken out

1. worthless employees meeting quotas
2. competitors spamming with links and fake views
3. a legit government strike

oh the fourth is you spammed somehow and got caught



Well.... you seem to be an alt of Bitcoin_exchange ... considering you "deal in domains" and have the same formatting, typing, and grammatical style.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: keanbosch on July 31, 2014, 05:07:46 PM
Maybe they think that this is an advocacy for not using dollar and use bitcoin instead


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: franky1 on July 31, 2014, 05:20:19 PM
Well.... you seem to be an alt of Bitcoin_exchange ... considering you "deal in domains" and have the same formatting, typing, and grammatical style.


he aso owns the pseudonyms:

ibittunes
ibitdeals
ibitloans
ipoopmyself
banque
adoni

amongst others


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: nkocevar on July 31, 2014, 05:21:33 PM
Well.... you seem to be an alt of Bitcoin_exchange ... considering you "deal in domains" and have the same formatting, typing, and grammatical style.


he aso owns the pseudonyms:

ibittunes
ibitdeals
ibitloans
ipoopmyself
banque
adoni

amongst others

I left a - trust on him and sent vod a pm


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: franky1 on July 31, 2014, 05:23:12 PM
but answering the OP's question.
there have been alot of reports about scammers making videos of these crappy made programs with a basic GUI that is just a progress bar that tell you 'generating' bitcoins. where infact they are loading malware to your system. thus youtube is deleting some of these video's but sometimes mistakes  real educational ones for the scam video's..


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: gadman2 on July 31, 2014, 05:25:47 PM
We all know the CIA, NSA, FBI, [YouTube] are private organizations bought & paid for by the 13 inbred European Bloodlines of the Terrorist organization Illuminati to collect data & spy on everybody. the primary objective of those private organizations are to only benefit themselves.

Makes me giggle.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: franky1 on July 31, 2014, 05:28:46 PM
We all know the CIA, NSA, FBI, [YouTube] are private organizations bought & paid for by the 13 inbred European Bloodlines of the Terrorist organization Illuminati to collect data & spy on everybody. the primary objective of those private organizations are to only benefit themselves.

Makes me giggle.

yep, when someone tries to put the word illuminati into every conversation they can, you know they are youtube armchair anarchists living in basements.. (need a life) .. so i giggle too


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: Bitcoin For Dummies on August 01, 2014, 12:04:39 PM
I haven't spammed any links or whatever, so it's not that.
They let you appeal only once per 6 months.

So, it seems like there isn't really a reason and there is nothing that can be done?

Does anyone know someone from google we could take this to?


And again, please upvote on reddit, I feel like this is the only chance we could fix this.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: giveBTCpls on August 01, 2014, 03:01:49 PM
I know Google Adsense likes to delete things easy as fuck for no apparent reason, maybe they did something wrong in the video? Usually no apparent reasons is just a really anal decision, they censure everything these days.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: Bitcoin For Dummies on August 01, 2014, 05:48:51 PM
Well my main concern is that after I appealed they confirmed the decision. This means it was looked at by at least 2 persons, right?
And isn't it annoying that they don't tell you the actual reason? How is that fair and reasonable?


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: davida on August 01, 2014, 06:00:23 PM
Just edit the video slightly and upload it again!


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: haploid23 on August 01, 2014, 07:21:03 PM
OP, did they ever give a reason why it was suspended? This doesn't make sense, because there are several channels that are dedicated to bitcoin topic.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: commandrix on August 01, 2014, 09:11:16 PM
This is a case for switching to Vimeo. I have a friend who got his videos taken down for "copyright violations" when they were HIS videos that he created using an animation program called Blender. He was mad, but I talked him into at least giving Vimeo a look. Vimeo's one weakness is that they charge uploaders of videos if they go over a certain number of gigabytes, but they make up for it by providing a platform that doesn't waste viewers' time with irrelevant video advertisements and you can still embed them on your own website. Right now he's creating an independent movie, and I was just telling him that having a 30-second trailer on Vimeo would make a nice addition to his Indiegogo campaign for when he wants to raise money to promote it.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: jonald_fyookball on August 01, 2014, 10:03:57 PM
This is a case for switching to Vimeo. I have a friend who got his videos taken down for "copyright violations" when they were HIS videos that he created using an animation program called Blender. He was mad, but I talked him into at least giving Vimeo a look. Vimeo's one weakness is that they charge uploaders of videos if they go over a certain number of gigabytes, but they make up for it by providing a platform that doesn't waste viewers' time with irrelevant video advertisements and you can still embed them on your own website. Right now he's creating an independent movie, and I was just telling him that having a 30-second trailer on Vimeo would make a nice addition to his Indiegogo campaign for when he wants to raise money to promote it.

there's also Daily Motion...no limits :)

Google/YT has too much power...thats the problem of centralization.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: slaveforanunnak1 on August 01, 2014, 11:41:46 PM
Fuck youtube!
You want to put up personal videos that won't get blocked?
Use http://www.real.com/

Yea, I know, I'm sure you are asking what year is this???

I use that real player cloud shit and it's great for putting videos up that you KNOW youtube will tear down!

Ps. we should stop blaming Real Player for "buffering"!! i mean you had a 56K connection to the interwebs FFS and you're trying to watch porn! of course it needed to buffer!

as far as bloatware, YES! they used to bloat the SHIT of your windows PC, but this is all a webUI. No need to install dick!


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: Bitcoin For Dummies on August 02, 2014, 04:39:09 PM
by the way, did any of those decentralized video sites got any traction already?
This youtube shit is going over the line now.

When they start removing videos for no reason, you know that they have grown too big to care.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: Bitcoin Charts on August 02, 2014, 10:07:37 PM
maybe them start to close bitcoin or in caption of viideo have malicious file . thats will closed video at moment . but i think it will not affect anything for bitcoin market . just little bit change it


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: Bitcoin For Dummies on August 04, 2014, 04:24:27 PM
Is there a place where one can complain if he thinks youtube is treating him unfair?
Their appeal process is kinda funny, because probably the same team that wrongfully suspended it reviewed the appeal.

I just read their guidelines again, there is NOTHING we have violated, really.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: BearOx on August 04, 2014, 04:56:48 PM
OP, every new video you post, you put a link directly to it, and a link for all previous videos as well. This happens in every thread you start. Youtube probably sees this as solicitation.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709673.0


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: BTCTIME247 on August 04, 2014, 07:09:46 PM
Vimeo


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: counter on August 04, 2014, 08:52:23 PM
Interesting this is the second potential claim of a social networking type site may be censoring BTC advertisments.  Anyway I don't think there is anything to worry it at this point. is a ton to worry about.  I see videos about BTC being reposted frequently so I doubt they would try and censor it fully it at all.  May want to try and contact support and see what information you can find.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: Bitcoin For Dummies on August 20, 2014, 03:50:52 PM
OP, every new video you post, you put a link directly to it, and a link for all previous videos as well. This happens in every thread you start. Youtube probably sees this as solicitation.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=709673.0

yeah right....seriously?


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: onlyu on August 20, 2014, 03:52:43 PM
Too many people is using that video to build websites to scam people.

Should just ban certain server IP address rather than banning the video.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: flyingcatt on August 20, 2014, 04:17:01 PM
use Vimeo, they never ban you.


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: Bitcoin For Dummies on August 26, 2014, 02:36:48 PM
yeah, uploaded this one to vimeo already


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: Ayers on August 26, 2014, 02:42:20 PM
i can clearly see them, there is no ban for those video, you are sure about that? maybe some local restriction?


Title: Re: Youtube is CENSORING Bitcoin educational video for no obvious reason! [SCAM?]
Post by: HappyScamp on August 27, 2014, 03:09:47 AM
Well my main concern is that after I appealed they confirmed the decision. This means it was looked at by at least 2 persons, right?
And isn't it annoying that they don't tell you the actual reason? How is that fair and reasonable?

To my sensibilities it is outrageous.  Youtube needs some competition.